Cross-breeding Marijuana with another Plant, like a Fruit
- Thread starter MammoN
- Start date
cbtwohundread
Well-Known Member
and the guy tryna make herb and hops cross to make thc beer ,,,,and those plants are related so if you cant do them you cant do anything,lol
If crossbreeding was that simple, there would be some extremely funny-looking sheep out in the more rural areas...Is it possible to cross-breed weed with like a strawberry plant for example? Then you get like pink strawberry buds or somethingmmmmm....
Anybody with ideas or who have tried it post here!
?
fried at 420
Well-Known Member
HAHAHA!!!
mariapastor
Well-Known Member
wow_get+stoned_then_readHAHAHA!!!
itsallinthewrist
Active Member
lol i got high and thought of this once to maybe in the future
Luger187
Well-Known Member
its not that easy. you would have to figure out a way for the strawberry plant to produce cannabanoids. this would be very difficult because the process involved in a plant producing a strawberry probably isnt all that similar to the process involving cannabanoids. you would have to totally redesign the genomes so they match up in the right way. basically you would be changing the strawberries growth sequence so it produces cannabanoids instead of something else, or maybe just include the cannabanoid process ontop of what it normally does.Is it possible to cross-breed weed with like a strawberry plant for example? Then you get like pink strawberry buds or something
Anybody with ideas or who have tried it post here!
i dont think just breeding strawberries and weed until you get strawberries that get you stoned would work(not that they would even breed together anyways). the chances of that many mutations happening in the exact right order is pretty much impossible. there is a very specific set of steps that eventually lead to a cannabanoid. these steps are controlled by genes. if even one gene is mutated in the wrong way, it can cause major problems.
Jogro
Well-Known Member
No, you can't do this.
As already mentioned, different species simply cannot interbreed this way.
You can't cross a tobacco plant with a tomato, you can't cross a monkey with a dog, and you can't cross a cannabis plant with a strawberry.
With respect to hops, that plant is distantly related to cannabis, but its nowhere near close enough that a simple cross is possible.
I've been told its possible to GRAFT a cannabis plant onto a hops vine, or vice versa.
Now, I don't know if this is true, but even if it were, you'd basically just be creating a "frankenstein" plant that was part hops, part cannabis. The cannabis part of it would still look, smell, and behave the same as any other cannabis plant, so you wouldn't fool anyone, and you wouldn't end up with THC-laden hops flowers.
With respect to what you might term genetic engineering, yes it is possible to transfer individual genes from one species to another.
Some of this kind of work has been done with tobacco plants, I think, and for obvious reasons, a tobacco plant might be a good candidate to transfer THC production genes.
The problem is that doing this sort of work is highly technical, complicated and quite expensive.
With respect to THC production, that's not going to be one gene to transfer but rather a whole complex set of them, involving synthesis proteins, transport proteins, regulatory proteins, etc. I'm pretty sure that these particular enzymes and regulatory mechanisms for cannabinoid production haven't even been worked out yet. Even assuming they were, transfering them wholesale from one species to another in a functional way would provide an unprecedented technical challenge. For example, who is to say that THC production wouldn't simply gum up and kill a tobacco plant?
So far as I know, nobody has ever accomplished anything remotely close to that before. I wouldn't say its "impossible" but at the present time its effectively science fiction.
If you want to continue with these sorts of pipe dreams, I have two alternative ways to go.
a. Find *another* plant that produces THC like molecules, and then genetically engineer and/or selectively breed it to create cannabinoids. Unfortunately, humans being what they are, I'd imagine that if any other such plant existed, that would be well known already.
b. Selectively breed and/or genetically engineer an actual cannabis plant to the point where it no longer physically resembled one. Again, this would pose a massive technical challenge, though I think this particular angle of attack would be quite a bit easier than say trying to cross a hemp plant with a blueberry!
As already mentioned, different species simply cannot interbreed this way.
You can't cross a tobacco plant with a tomato, you can't cross a monkey with a dog, and you can't cross a cannabis plant with a strawberry.
With respect to hops, that plant is distantly related to cannabis, but its nowhere near close enough that a simple cross is possible.
I've been told its possible to GRAFT a cannabis plant onto a hops vine, or vice versa.
Now, I don't know if this is true, but even if it were, you'd basically just be creating a "frankenstein" plant that was part hops, part cannabis. The cannabis part of it would still look, smell, and behave the same as any other cannabis plant, so you wouldn't fool anyone, and you wouldn't end up with THC-laden hops flowers.
With respect to what you might term genetic engineering, yes it is possible to transfer individual genes from one species to another.
Some of this kind of work has been done with tobacco plants, I think, and for obvious reasons, a tobacco plant might be a good candidate to transfer THC production genes.
The problem is that doing this sort of work is highly technical, complicated and quite expensive.
With respect to THC production, that's not going to be one gene to transfer but rather a whole complex set of them, involving synthesis proteins, transport proteins, regulatory proteins, etc. I'm pretty sure that these particular enzymes and regulatory mechanisms for cannabinoid production haven't even been worked out yet. Even assuming they were, transfering them wholesale from one species to another in a functional way would provide an unprecedented technical challenge. For example, who is to say that THC production wouldn't simply gum up and kill a tobacco plant?
So far as I know, nobody has ever accomplished anything remotely close to that before. I wouldn't say its "impossible" but at the present time its effectively science fiction.
If you want to continue with these sorts of pipe dreams, I have two alternative ways to go.
a. Find *another* plant that produces THC like molecules, and then genetically engineer and/or selectively breed it to create cannabinoids. Unfortunately, humans being what they are, I'd imagine that if any other such plant existed, that would be well known already.
b. Selectively breed and/or genetically engineer an actual cannabis plant to the point where it no longer physically resembled one. Again, this would pose a massive technical challenge, though I think this particular angle of attack would be quite a bit easier than say trying to cross a hemp plant with a blueberry!
dannyboy602
Well-Known Member
Intergeneric hybrids are possible. They do not occur in nature. In the plant kingdom it's possible to cross two plant genera and get a hybrid..example: Leyland Cypress or x Cupressocyparis leylandii. A cross of two different genera. The latin name on all intergeneric hybrids always starts with an x.* With Cannabis spp it's just a waste of time. But a fun thing to think of when one is high.
*Manual of Woody Landscape Plants by Michael Dirr
*Manual of Woody Landscape Plants by Michael Dirr
Rottedroots
Well-Known Member
It's almost a frightening thought... just what I need to explain to my wife. Honey I know that lamb looks like me But I swear I've never met her before. !! I have a garden full of crosses Every 1 of them is at least loosely related. I would guess the to crosses would have to be very similar in genetics.
Warlock1369
Well-Known Member
It would take a ton of work but anything is posibul. MJ and hops is easy to graft but not realy worth it. It's easyer to make thc beer adding buds then grafting the plants. I have a buddy trying to do it now. Those things look funny. Wouldn't smoke the buds and the ones for hops don't have much thc. Bud a good amount of cbd's and cbm's. And as for edibles that's what you want. So he is close but taste isn't there yet.
Rottedroots
Well-Known Member
Most fruit trees are grafted onto a root stock whether it be a standard or dwarf but trees are long lived and mj is just an annual. Annuals just would not give you enough time. Now if mj was a long lived perenial couldn't we have fun. Sure would like to pick buds like fruit off the same plant every year.
dababydroman
Well-Known Member
i heard if you grow peppers by your tomatoes you can get hot tomatoes.
dank smoker420
Well-Known Member
you can do it but it would need to be a stable offspring and some plants with other plants dont produce stable offspring so you would need to be extremely lucky. some plants occur in nature if they have similar genetics
they do have fruits like apple banana which is my favorite type of banana
they do have fruits like apple banana which is my favorite type of banana
Brick Top
New Member
That is not like what was asked. It was asked if cannabis plants and things like fruits could be crossed, not grafting various strains of cannabis onto a cannabis plant could be done.
And when you graft one plant onto another the grafted on portion remains 100% genetically the same as it was previous to being grafted. There is no combining or crossing or intermingling of genetics between the plant being grafted to and the portion or portions grafted to another plant. None will not take on any traits from the plant it is grafted to or from any other plants also grafted to the same plant.
If someone did not have "tasty bud" before grafting they will not achieve it by grafting multiple cannabis plants onto one cannabis plant. The flavors will not blend and intermingle. The highs will not blend into a unique high that is a combination of the various grafted plants. Each part/segment/section of granted on plant will remain, 100%, what they were previous to being grafted.
Harrekin
Well-Known Member
I liken it to a heart transplant operation for simplicity of explanation. If you have a donar heart it doesn't just "make you" the person.
Its just one plant using another plants "heart" really.