Captured soldure. message from the heart?

strangerdude562

strangerdude562

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Dolce Vita said:
here is the full (at least as full as can be found on youtube) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THmerXtKiqA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNM5pfSdsjA what do yall think, is it time to come home and leave the rest of the fucking world alone and fix ourselves before we try to help others?
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I think that we should get out of Iraq and have our main focus on N. Korea and Afghanistan. As for this soldier all I have to say is what a dumbass he is, what kind of idiot wanders off base without a weapon?
 
natrone23

natrone23

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what... huh? said:
No possible way to defend that belief. You don't know how many there are now, nor how many were there before, nor here.

I would rather the fight be there than here.
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The US intelligence community (CIA, NSA, DIA, etc) view, confirmed by the conclusions of the 9/11 Commission Report and the Senate Report of Pre-war Intelligence on Iraq, is that there was not a cooperative effort between the two and that Saddam did not support the 9/11 attacks. According to this view, the difference in ideology between Saddam and al-Qaeda made cooperation in any terrorist attacks very unlikely.[6] The Senate Report discussed the possibility of Saddam offering al-Qaeda training and safe-haven, but confirmed the CIA's conclusion that there was no evidence of operational cooperation between the two
 
what... huh?

what... huh?

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jfgordon1 said:
Oh al qaeda exists... and we pretty much created it. the've been our friends since the 80's.

http://www.historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=al-qaeda&startpos=0
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Didn't read your link. The mujihadin existed before we trained them better in guerrilla warfare to repel the russians. At that time, you may be aware, we were in the cold war. We wanted it to remain cold. The enemy of your enemy is your friend. Support them to keep the oil out of the russians hands, and we don't have to get our hands dirty.

It is again... the best move for our country.
 
what... huh?

what... huh?

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natrone23 said:
The US intelligence community (CIA, NSA, DIA, etc) view, confirmed by the conclusions of the 9/11 Commission Report and the Senate Report of Pre-war Intelligence on Iraq, is that there was not a cooperative effort between the two and that Saddam did not support the 9/11 attacks. According to this view, the difference in ideology between Saddam and al-Qaeda made cooperation in any terrorist attacks very unlikely.[6] The Senate Report discussed the possibility of Saddam offering al-Qaeda training and safe-haven, but confirmed the CIA's conclusion that there was no evidence of operational cooperation between the two
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I didn't suggest there was cooperation so much as a willingness to coexist.

You act as if it is coincidence that once we got there the enemy magically began spouting out of the ground.

I am suggesting that it is not coincidence, that there were strongholds and forces of Al Queda entrenched and became a central hub for virgin distribution... and I am good with it.
 
natrone23

natrone23

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what... huh? said:
I didn't suggest there was cooperation so much as a willingness to coexist.

You act as if it is coincidence that once we got there the enemy magically began spouting out of the ground.
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Did you ever think those "enemy" that magically sprouted were Iraqis defending there country?
 
jfgordon1

jfgordon1

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what... huh? said:
Didn't read your link. The mujihadin existed before we trained them better in guerrilla warfare to repel the russians. At that time, you may be aware, we were in the cold war. We wanted it to remain cold. The enemy of your enemy is your friend. Support them to keep the oil out of the russians hands, and we don't have to get our hands dirty.

It is again... the best move for our country.
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Agreed. At that time it was in our best interest to support them. However, we still support them today and make them sound like they are our "enemy"...

We don't want this war to end. We create things for the american pubic so they'll support the actions the government takes...

UNITED STATES CAUGHT IN IRAQ CAR-BOMBING

Friday, October 14, 2005 - FreeMarketNews.com

It's happened again - allied troops being caught with bombs. This time it is the Americans captured in the act of setting off a car bomb in Baghdad. Last time, as FMNN reported only weeks ago, two British soldiers, apparently working for British intelligence, were caught near Baghdad similarly equipped.

According to the Mirror-World, "A number of Iraqis apprehended two Americans disguised in Arab dress as they tried to blow up a booby-trapped car in the middle of a residential area in western Baghdad on Tuesday. … Residents of western Baghdad's al-Ghazaliyah district [said] the people had apprehended the Americans as they left their Caprice car near a residential neighborhood in al-Ghazaliyah on Tuesday afternoon. Local people found they looked suspicious so they detained the men before they could get away. That was when they discovered that they were Americans and called the … police." Just as in the British incident, the Iraq police arrived at approximately the same time as allied military forces - and the two men were removed from Iraq custody and wisked away before any questioning could take place.

The incidents are said to be fueling both puzzlement and animosity among Iraqis. Yet the motivation behind such activities remains formally unknown since in both cases the soldiers involved have been removed with an efficiency that has quashed any attempts at an interrogation.
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Link: http://www.freemarketnews.com/WorldNews.asp?nid=1326
 
natrone23

natrone23

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what... huh? said:
I know too many people on the ground and in the air to think that. I know too many people involved. No.
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Yeah I know a few people including (me) who were involved too.

We rarely came into contact with foreign fighters, most of the guys we killed and captured were Iraqis.

Not to mention pentagon reports that state less the 10 percent of the fighters in Iraq are al qeada. The vast amount of "insurgents" were from local resitence groups
 
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