1000w BarneysFarm Red Diesel

Bublonichronic

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Yeah, I do not know what happened with Barney's on this one. I have thought, cuz of the awards and stuff, that they kick ass. My grow "acquaintance" grew morning glory and said it was everything they said it was, so he went for the night shade...not sure how that went but...I was thinking the other day, as when I ordered last it was difficult to get non-femmed seeds for many strains, and as the process produces (I have heard, for what that is worth...and genetically it makes sense) that the first generation following the gib. acid produces hermie trait seeds (and I assume other issues, cuz unless the fem trait [with no hermie trait] is double homozygous dom or recessive [and I doubt it is that simple as it is a DNA f'up]the traits remain, though unexpressed). And I think that is what we got...could be other damage was done to other genes...like POTENCY!

The ex wanted a zip of RD instead of Headband, and as we had already smoked the HB, was stoked with the RD as it looks and smells killer...but it don't do the job...she was bummed...I tried to tell her and even brought the half of HB and waved it in her face, but she is a crack head.:roll:

I gave the RD 3 chances and she sux IMO. The genetics sound good, since I got 3 phenos...maybe there is a good one out there, and I hope you have it. No wonder 4 zips only made like 3.5 grams of hash with 3 runs:evil:

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fuck bro....i used maybe 2 oz of FUZZY budd and i got like 14G of "on ur ass bubble hash"(stird by hand, i was told useing a elextrix paint mixer gets way more out)....potency was there just, the seeds....you ordered from barneys, and you KNOW it was RD? or maybe you just didnt mix long enough??
 

Hayduke

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fuck bro....i used maybe 2 oz of FUZZY budd and i got like 14G of "on ur ass bubble hash"(stird by hand, i was told useing a elextrix paint mixer gets way more out)....potency was there just, the seeds....you ordered from barneys, and you KNOW it was RD? or maybe you just didnt mix long enough??
I used a paint mixer and my tightest bag is 20micron! I even collected what went past the 20 (gumby style, and it is killer!).

I did it twice in one day and a couple of days later again. They were in barneys packaging, from attitude, look great, grow great, huge buds 70 days on one (others 56-63 cuz bananas)

Now here is another note. I dry my hash chopped fine on cardboard AFTER pressing dry (it loses a 2/3 more)...it is DRY I have to press with heat to get it to stick it is so dry, but it is a solid puck. It is very strong and tastes very floral (20mic, the finer tastes a little more hashy) I only use it when I plan on sleeping soon.

Here are 3 pics, 0ne each of each pheno...you can see why I did n ot want to give up on her...I did two generations of clones of the 3rd pic. These are are 56 days flower....looks stoney...





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dpjones

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Did you contact attitude and tell them about this? They might try and sort you out cos of the bum seeds. If you send em the pics to.....
 

Hayduke

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Did you contact attitude and tell them about this? They might try and sort you out cos of the bum seeds. If you send em the pics to.....
No. I got what I paid for...sort of. They have no control over the breeder, and who knows maybe it was me. I thought I had forced the issue with 8 weeks of 24/0...maybe I did, but This is the third RD I have seen hermie...and nobody really raves about the smoke.

As for the customer service: One seed was cracked where attitude crushes the pack to keep the beans from rattling (I guess)...they kinda owe me 10% for that.

I ordered Night Shade reg cuz I wanted a male to make "NightTrain" and femmed Violator Kush (I think that is all they had...we were paranoid about the rumor of hermie traits from femmed seeds) for my aquaintance due to his paranoia from a past Hash conviction (felony any amount! Medically it is "concentrate")

So for some reason the 10 regular seeds were like 10 bucks more than 5 fem...they sent 5 fem, but charged me for the more expensive regular. i emailed them 4 times asking for credit on the overcharge (wanted to do the LSD), with the only response of "Yes, the Night Shade is only available in Feminine orientation...thank you for your order".

I have heard them having good customer service if you do not get you item, but anything having to do with germination or quality, they refer you to the breeder. I have heard one reason being that the beans are sold for novelty purposes and are not supposed to be germinated! I think they should take responsibility for old inventory (not an issue for me but maybe for others)

I do not know what the deal is for the RD...It germinates fast from seed...shows sex when forced in days...Clones in 5-7 days...grows vigorously and beautiful with thick strong stalk and branches that produce fat colas.

It was hard for me to give up on her. I still have a couple of original seeds...It would be nice to see her not hermie.

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dpjones

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Hmm you should try anyway and not just take peoples word for it. You dont get if you dont ask.

They prob wouldnt want the negative rep so they might try to compensate you.

Attitude delivers to holland i think, where its legal to grow.

Ive got a couple of the femmed LSD and some nirvana white rhino which im gonna be starting in sept. Cant wait ^.^
 

Bublonichronic

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well got some kewl news.... had a experienced MJgrower over who looked at my set up and took a look at my RD, he said no hermi signs...so that puts my mind at eas, lets all take a minute to pray for my RD not go all nutty on me
 

Hayduke

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Hmm you should try anyway and not just take peoples word for it. You dont get if you dont ask.

They prob wouldnt want the negative rep so they might try to compensate you.

Attitude delivers to holland i think, where its legal to grow.

Ive got a couple of the femmed LSD and some nirvana white rhino which im gonna be starting in sept. Cant wait ^.^
I am very interesten in LSD if it is what they claim it sounds sick. This was the result of a competition within Barneys between the chicks and the dudes...the LSD was the creation of the ladies.

well got some kewl news.... had a experienced MJgrower over who looked at my set up and took a look at my RD, he said no hermi signs...so that puts my mind at eas, lets all take a minute to pray for my RD not go all nutty on me
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Wow man, so i just read like your whole journel and saw that u started flowering a little after a week in? and the results are really unexpected! well done by the looks of your buds! Which yielded more topped or untopped? i just topped half of mine and am 3 1/2 weeks into vegging, so naturally im curious. Again props for citing that fan (i bookmarked it).

also, you said you started with MG and moved into different FF soil, did u use a noticably smaller amount of FF nutes than what the chart recommended (to avoid nute burn)??

again great setup and plants :weed:
 

Bublonichronic

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Wow man, so i just read like your whole journel and saw that u started flowering a little after a week in? and the results are really unexpected! well done by the looks of your buds! Which yielded more topped or untopped? i just topped half of mine and am 3 1/2 weeks into vegging, so naturally im curious. Again props for citing that fan (i bookmarked it).

also, you said you started with MG and moved into different FF soil, did u use a noticably smaller amount of FF nutes than what the chart recommended (to avoid nute burn)??

again great setup and plants :weed:
thanks for the props bro, i think i vegged them for like 21 days, they were really small when i put them into flower....But i think that both the topd and untoppd plants put about generally the same amount, just easier to get the budsites on a topd plant closer to the light...and as far as the FF i dont know, i see people worried about burn but the only time i get burn/lockout is when i forget to flush...cause with my RD it exploded when i put it into flower and im guessing cause i was feeding the fuck outa it....i say put the nutes there for the plant, then flush em out ever week(or so)... but i know you can save money by cutting the nute dose....but from what i understand FOR THE MOST PART a plant will only take what it needs, and id rather it be there than not, just my thoughts....oh yea, camera comes back tomorrow so after work its photo time:weed:
 

dpjones

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Lockout only occurs when there is salt build up i believe. I think its hard if not impossible to get lock out using organic. The plant in my avatar didnt get flushed at all during the growth and flowering. Only at the end.
 

Bublonichronic

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Lockout only occurs when there is salt build up i believe. I think its hard if not impossible to get lock out using organic. The plant in my avatar didnt get flushed at all during the growth and flowering. Only at the end.
i dunno, i thought salt buildup was with soil grows in general...i still like to flush to keep things fresh for my ladies
 

dpjones

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Doh, how come its harder to mess up with organic nutes like biobizz?

Also im fairly certain you can get salt buildup in hydro?
 

Bublonichronic

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i would think the non-organic would be the less salty....ya know, they would MAKE it that way, like removeing some salts or something....but im a highschool drop out so what do i know, but here are some pics for now gotta run...you can see the monster in the corner, lol
 

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Hayduke

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Organics are generally concentrated compost teas made with things like Worm castings, various guanos, kelps, and naturally occurring minerals. The chemical nutes get most of the NPK and trace minerals from chemically combined "salts"
Which is an Ion + Anion forming an electrically neutral salt.

The Organics, if you distilled down the contents you could get back to some "salts" as they combine at random as (+) and (-) ions and anions are attracted to each other.

Here in (IMO) is an issue, as with the chem ferts we add these salts to water and in solution they disassociate and in and out of solution can recombine into salts which cannot be uptaken by the plant...hence the "lock out" The bacteria in the gut and during composting makes the animal wastes into soil like material that plants can naturally absorb as needed without your medium constantly looking for a stable environment (+/-). As the plant may use these chemical salts unevenly, an imbalance occurs not only creating newly combined salts (seeking stabilization), but first creating a fluctuation in the pH...I believe (again IMO) that the majority of "nute burns" are actually a pH issue followed by a lock out.

A plant only shows a few signs of stress and they are often a combination of several. I have been told that anything beyond the very tips browning is something beyond too much nutes, though it could have been the initial stressor that started the system out of equilibrium.

Also If you look at Tiger Bloom there is a bunch of EDTA:confused:

according to Wikipedia "The solubilization of ferric ions near neutral pH is accomplished using EDTA. This property is useful in agriculture including hydroponics, especially in calcareous soils. Otherwise, at near neutral pH, iron(III) forms insoluble salts, which are less bioavailable."

This tells me that as the pH gets closer to 7, big old iron salts are formed making iron less available, messing with calcium, zinc, and often what we think is the problem...magnesium.

Soils often have limes added to stabilize pH, and growers often use a pH of around 6.4. However Hydro is recommended and incredibly lower pH like 5.5. This along with magnetic pumps tending to drop iron out of solution may be the reason for the lower pH for Hydro.

This show where a small fluctuation in pH can cause some serious issues when using chem ferts. and how even doing straight watering with unadjusted neutral pH water (RO) can cause mayhem chemically in the soil.

This may also be why my veggie garden and many organic growers get away with using non pH adjusted tap water. On that note my tap is now at 580ppm right out of the cold faucet.

I believe I have just talked myself out of chem ferts

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