Religion Has Done More Bad Than Good

CrackerJax

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He means uptight nutjobs who like to think about what other ppl are doing in their own bedrooms....


But yes, the carnival is a great place to be carnal. Gotta love the Ferris wheel. :wink:
 

Green Cross

Well-Known Member
Do you really believe this war is for religion ? :o
Sure Vietnam, WW II, North Korea... wait none of these wars were about religion WTF?

People believe what they have been taught by liberal teachers?

Oh and those darn Rastafarian's making war with everyone!
 

CrackerJax

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You are naming wars fought for non religious purposes (yes, they exist of course). Let's talk about the previous 2000 years and see how it shakes out. You know when the church was in charge much more than today.
 

Green Cross

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You are naming wars fought for non religious purposes (yes, they exist of course). Let's talk about the previous 2000 years and see how it shakes out. You know when the church was in charge much more than today.
So the original poster is concerned with the role religion has played in historical events (war). Fascinating

Iraq war was over oil right? Or do you believe Islam is to blame?
 

CrackerJax

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Actually the OP didn't bring up the war aspect. The OP merely points out (correctly) that religion is more bad than good.
 

Green Cross

Well-Known Member
Actually the OP didn't bring up the war aspect. The OP merely points out (correctly) that religion is more bad than good.
Is there an organization that has done more to feed hungry children than the Catholic church? I'm not Catholic BTW

Secular humanism being taught in the American public school system certainly accounts for much of the misconception, that Religion does more bad than good, because it's apposed to their believe system (religion).
 

CrackerJax

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Are you even being serious? :lol:

Let's see, first the church goes in with the European powers and strips the third world of assets and wealth, then feeds the following swells of the poor.

Hey that's friggin fantastic!!! Take a bow!!! :clap:

Guess who turned it into the third world.... :roll:
 

Green Cross

Well-Known Member
Are you even being serious? :lol:

Let's see, first the church goes in with the European powers and strips the third world of assets and wealth, then feeds the following swells of the poor.

Hey that's friggin fantastic!!! Take a bow!!! :clap:

Guess who turned it into the third world.... :roll:
Way to miss the point

Who feeds more hungry children each year than any other organization?


Catholic Charities

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Catholic Charities is a worldwide network of charities whose aim is to "reduce poverty, support families, and empower communities."[1] It is one of the largest and most respected charities.[2] Catholic Charities traces its origin to an orphanage founded in 1727 in New Orleans, Louisiana by the French Ursulines Sisters.
Catholic Charities, USA (CCUSA), with headquarters in Alexandria, Virginia, is recognized as one of the nation's largest voluntary social service networks. It was founded in 1910 as the National Conference of Catholic Charities. More than 1,700 agencies, institutions and organizations make up the Catholic Charities network - including individual organizations of the dioceses, such as the Archdiocese of Chicago. Nearly 90 cents of every dollar donated to Catholic Charities agencies goes directly to programs and services.[3]
Together, with the local, diocesan Catholic Charities affiliates, Catholic Charities is the second largest social service provider in the United States and it is only surpassed by the US Federal Government. Often, this means that the CCUSA network is able to provide assistance which other agencies are simply unable to provide or in circumstances where the other assistance is insufficient to provide the necessary aid.


When was the last time you did some charity work, and what are your qualifications?

And would you rather be treated in a Catholic Hospital, or a government hospital?
 

Bud Frosty

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All of their charitable donations are paid for by the parishoners. The Catholic church never takes a loss. Unless they are paying sexual abuse reparations. And since doing that they have cut money to all of the diocese in the area accounting for the closing of many churches, unless the parishoners wanted to pay their own way.
 

CrackerJax

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Way to miss the point

Who feeds more hungry children each year than any other organization?


Catholic Charities

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Catholic Charities official logo


Catholic Charities is a worldwide network of charities whose aim is to "reduce poverty, support families, and empower communities."[1] It is one of the largest and most respected charities.[2] Catholic Charities traces its origin to an orphanage founded in 1727 in New Orleans, Louisiana by the French Ursulines Sisters.
Catholic Charities, USA (CCUSA), with headquarters in Alexandria, Virginia, is recognized as one of the nation's largest voluntary social service networks. It was founded in 1910 as the National Conference of Catholic Charities. More than 1,700 agencies, institutions and organizations make up the Catholic Charities network - including individual organizations of the dioceses, such as the Archdiocese of Chicago. Nearly 90 cents of every dollar donated to Catholic Charities agencies goes directly to programs and services.[3]
Together, with the local, diocesan Catholic Charities affiliates, Catholic Charities is the second largest social service provider in the United States and it is only surpassed by the US Federal Government. Often, this means that the CCUSA network is able to provide assistance which other agencies are simply unable to provide or in circumstances where the other assistance is insufficient to provide the necessary aid.


When was the last time you did some charity work, and what are your qualifications?

And would you rather be treated in a Catholic Hospital, or a government hospital?
You missed the time line!

The Catholic church is RESPONSIBLE for much of the poverty...... so they should feed them. Maybe they should actually liquidate their unbelievable amount of assets and REALLY feed them...:sad:
 

Green Cross

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You missed the time line!

The Catholic church is RESPONSIBLE for much of the poverty...... so they should feed them. Maybe they should actually liquidate their unbelievable amount of assets and REALLY feed them...:sad:
They really are feeding "them", are you?

Isn't religion the basis for much of what we take for granted. Most religions teach peace hope and charity. Are these bad things?

If Darwinism is your molar compass then you're far more likely to only care about self preservation right?
 

CrackerJax

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The church simply runs a slick carny scheme, nothing more. Hope in a bottle....after you die. Think about it. It's the ultimate mind control trick. Once you get ppl to swallow that whopper, anything is possible. Once you get the govt.s to give you a pass on taxes...well the money just rolls in ...and builds. Some of it downright stolen at the point of a sword, and some of it given willingly by the desperate of mind or body, or ppl just keeping an insurance policy open, ...just in case :wink:

Have I fed the poor? Most certainly I have, and no nudge from a church was needed. So you just keep feeding them.... you helped create them after all.
 

doped909

Active Member
They really are feeding "them", are you?

Isn't religion the basis for much of what we take for granted. Most religions teach peace hope and charity. Are these bad things?

If Darwinism is your molar compass then you're far more likely to only care about self preservation right?
All human's only care about self-preservation. Even Mother Teresaonly cared about that. Altruism isn't possible for human beings.

e.g: the only reason anyone helps a child in Africa is because they feel/would feel guilty by not helping them.

Even with a daughter or son to love them above all else is because they are an extension of one's self. They are the continuation of your genes, name and culture.

It'd be nice to believe that altruism is possible for human beings, thinking that out there the world is full of people who will do anything for you but it's not and never has been.

No animal on this planet would ever do anything altruistic. Competition is what has made life on this planet a reality.

Sure Vietnam, WW II, North Korea... wait none of these wars were about religion WTF?

People believe what they have been taught by liberal teachers?

Oh and those darn Rastafarian's making war with everyone!
We think that:

World War 2 was fought due to the fact that Hitler decided the arian race was better than all the others, and that he decided on world domination. I don't exactly know much about Vietnam only that it's regarded as a failure for the American side. The Korean war was being fought on both sides of the border, I am sure a lot of Koreans are insulted to think that people believe only the North was affected. That war was to halt the progression of Communism, a modified version of Marxism, in the world. The communists were portrayed as godless evil doers, and the North Americans were the Christians riding in to save them from there evil ways.

Religions or beliefs are constantly being used as reasons to go to war. Bush would use god for convincing people the Iraq war was justified.

And finally this isn't to say that religion is innocent. The old testament particularly Deuteronomy 22:28-29 shows just how idiotic the beliefs in this book are. Three apostles writing about the resurrection of Jesus all have different accounts of what happened. Funny how the gospel (an unquestionable truth) can't even decide on what happened.
 

dpjones

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They really are feeding "them", are you?

Isn't religion the basis for much of what we take for granted. Most religions teach peace hope and charity. Are these bad things?

If Darwinism is your molar compass then you're far more likely to only care about self preservation right?
You arn't really proving anything by saying that, just attacking other peoples saying they don't do shit so why criticize. Its a diversion technique which in the end wont solve any debate.

The bible is full of mostly good morales but arguably based upon a lie.

The point of whether its better in the long run to believe the lie is a different matter.

The point is the church in most of its history has had anyone who doesn't believe killed. They spread the religion through fear, sugar coating it with eternal happiness once you die.

Its only relatively recently that people have been able to express their personal opinions and not get hung for it that has allowed this new culture to form.

The main problem I think is that Churches are run by man, and man is inherently greedy.

Is it not, for example, hypocrisy for the church to ask working classes to donate money for its causes, yet it sits on goldmines?

Don't get me wrong though. There are people, genuinely good people, who go out of their way to help others less fortunate than themselves. But there is a larger portion who don't. People who call themselves faithful Christians.
 

wm2009

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The church has made many good things, just look at the thousands of beautiful monuments around Europe and Russia... that without the church they would not exist.
 

wm2009

Member
Green Cross I don't blame the liberal media, because anyone can choose what to see, I blame repression in any way.
 

CrackerJax

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It would be nice to think that the church earned all that money to pay for those monuments wouldn't it? Yah, it'd be nice to think that.....but it wouldn't be true. What percentage of monies collected has been dispersed to ease the suffering? If the mythical man named Jesus came back, he would be appalled sir.... simply appalled to see what has been done in his name.

Of course no one would believe him and we would all end up putting his arse back up on the cross...:wink:
 

grape swisha

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Sure Vietnam, WW II, North Korea... wait none of these wars were about religion WTF?

People believe what they have been taught by liberal teachers?

Oh and those darn Rastafarian's making war with everyone!
yea WWII actually started because hitler didnt like jews so in a way it was from religion.
 
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