So You Want Your Country Back?

ReelBusy

Active Member
Too bad.

It's not "your" country.

It's "Our" country.

We take turns running it.

Last time we voted on who gets to drive Obama won by more than 10 million votes and an electoral landslide.

And yeah he's a Black American.
Deal with it.


So if your mad because you don't know the difference between "socialism" and "losing" maybe you should look back at the last 8 years and ask yourself after Chads in Florida, allowing 9/11, two wars, one ignored and one based on lies, US Soldiers turned into Torturers, Katrina and 3 trillion dollars literally given to the rich & war profiteers....

Why weren't you Mad then?
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Minnestoner

New Member
And look back at the Clinton era when money and loans were handed out to all the people that couldnt afford a home and look at what happened. Oh and when Clinton decided to hand over nuclear plans to N Korea. What a wonderful idea that was. And Clinton used the military more than any other prez.... so im gonna ask...whats your point?????

Liberals are all about taxing everything and everyone dude. This dude i would guess "you" helped vote in is spending "OUR" money without thinking it through. And by the way i do believe the dems ran the house and senate for the majority of the time Bush was in office and your liberal friends in washington authorized these wars your complaining about. Educate yourself before you spew!!!!
 

Anjinsan

Well-Known Member
They both suck balls.

Seriously the only government I like is a small one. I don't even give a rat's ass which party is "in". Just make it small with less programs & less spending.

I'd vote for YOU if you could make that happen.

I don't give rat's ass about the person's color...just how hard are they coming after my wallet. (and yes tripling the deficit in 6 months WILL require this ever expanding government to come after EVERYONE's wallets)
 

BadDog40

Well-Known Member
And look back at the Clinton era when money and loans were handed out to all the people that couldnt afford a home and look at what happened. Oh and when Clinton decided to hand over nuclear plans to N Korea. What a wonderful idea that was. And Clinton used the military more than any other prez.... so im gonna ask...whats your point?????

Do you actually believe this load of crap?
 

Anjinsan

Well-Known Member
Do you actually believe this load of crap?
Clinton did push the banks freddie mac and fannie mae to give out loans to people that flat out were unqualified. That's not even debatable...it's public record.

No idea about nuclear tech to N. Korea...I'd certainly like to see proof of that.

As to using the military a lot...I don't think that he used it more than any other President at all.

He did farq us with NAFTA and most favored nation trading status to China though. Both "programs" worsened our trade balances. Interesting to see the scandal when it was revealed that the Chinese were contributing to his campaign chest.
 

kappainf

Well-Known Member
Obama supporters..... good for you. But, you gotta come up with more than Bush, Iraq, and black. The U.S. soldiers turned into torturers is bullshit. You should thank God for our soldiers and your freedom.
 

Rob Roy

Well-Known Member
Too bad.

It's not "your" country.

It's "Our" country.

We take turns running it.

Last time we voted on who gets to drive Obama won by more than 10 million votes and an electoral landslide.

And yeah he's a Black American.
Deal with it.


So if your mad because you don't know the difference between "socialism" and "losing" maybe you should look back at the last 8 years and ask yourself after Chads in Florida, allowing 9/11, two wars, one ignored and one based on lies, US Soldiers turned into Torturers, Katrina and 3 trillion dollars literally given to the rich & war profiteers....

Why weren't you Mad then?
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I WAS mad then. Is it possible there are more than 2 points of view and both Republicans and Democrats have areas that could be improved?
 

Minnestoner

New Member
Clinton did push the banks freddie mac and fannie mae to give out loans to people that flat out were unqualified. That's not even debatable...it's public record.

No idea about nuclear tech to N. Korea...I'd certainly like to see proof of that.

As to using the military a lot...I don't think that he used it more than any other President at all.

He did farq us with NAFTA and most favored nation trading status to China though. Both "programs" worsened our trade balances. Interesting to see the scandal when it was revealed that the Chinese were contributing to his campaign chest.
He used them 21 times, I will let you decide the ones you want to count.

1993-Present -- Bosnia-Herzegovina.

1993 -- Macedonia. On July 9, 1993, President Clinton reported the deployment of 350 US soldiers to the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia to participate in the UN Protection Force to help maintain stability in the area of former Yugoslavia.[RL30172]

1994-95 -- Haiti. Operation Uphold Democracy US ships had begun embargo against Haiti. Up to 20,000 US military troops were later deployed to Haiti.[RL30172]

1994 -- Macedonia. On April 19, 1994, President Clinton reported that the US contingent in the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia had been increased by a reinforced company of 200 personnel.[RL30172]

1995 -- Bosnia. NATO bombing of Bosnian Serbs.[RL30172] (See Operation Deliberate Force)

1996 -- Liberia. On April 11, 1996, President Clinton reported that on April 9, 1996 due to the "deterioration of the security situation and the resulting threat to American citizens" in Liberia he had ordered US military forces to evacuate from that country "private US citizens and certain third-country nationals who had taken refuge in the US Embassy compound...."[RL30172]

1996 -- Central African Republic. On May 23, 1996, President Clinton reported the deployment of US military personnel to Bangui, Central African Republic, to conduct the evacuation from that country of "private US citizens and certain U.S. Government employees", and to provide "enhanced security for the American Embassy in Bangui."[RL30172]

1997 -- Albania. On March 13, 1997, US military forces were used to evacuate certain U.S. Government employees and private US citizens from Tirana, Albania. (See also Operation Silver Wake)[RL30172]

1997 -- Congo and Gabon. On March 27, 1997, President Clinton reported on March 25, 1997, a standby evacuation force of US military personnel had been deployed to Congo and Gabon to provide enhanced security and to be available for any necessary evacuation operation.[RL30172]

1997 -- Sierra Leone. On May 29 and May 30, 1997, US military personnel were deployed to Freetown, Sierra Leone, to prepare for and undertake the evacuation of certain US government employees and private US citizens.[RL30172]

1997 -- Cambodia. On July 11, 1997, In an effort to ensure the security of American citizens in Cambodia during a period of domestic conflict there, a Task Force of about 550 US military personnel were deployed at Utapao Air Base in Thailand for possible evacuations. [RL30172]

1998 -- Iraq. US-led bombing campaign against Iraq.[RL30172] (See Operation Desert Fox)

1998 -- Guinea-Bissau. On June 10, 1998, in response to an army mutiny in Guinea-Bissau endangering the US Embassy, President Clinton deployed a standby evacuation force of US military personnel to Dakar, Senegal, to evacuate from the city of Bissau.[RL30172]

1998 - 1999 Kenya and Tanzania. US military personnel were deployed to Nairobi, Kenya, to coordinate the medical and disaster assistance related to the bombings of the U.S. Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania. [RL30172]

1998 -- Afghanistan and Sudan. Operation Infinite Reach On August 20, air strikes were used against two suspected terrorist training camps in Afghanistan and a suspected chemical factory in Sudan.[RL30172]

1998 -- Liberia. On September 27, 1998 America deployed a stand-by response and evacuation force of 30 US military personnel to increase the security force at the US Embassy in Monrovia.[RL30172]

1999 - 2001 East Timor. East Timor Independence Limited number of US military forces deployed with UN to restore peace to East Timor.[RL30172]

1999 -- NATO's bombing of Serbia in the Kosovo Conflict.[RL30172] (See Operation Allied Force)


[edit] 2000- present
2000 -- Sierra Leone. On May 12, 2000 a US Navy patrol craft deployed to Sierra Leone to support evacuation operations from that country if needed.[RL30172]

2000 -- Yemen. On October 12, 2000, after the USS ColeTemplate:WP Ships USS instances attack in the port of Aden, Yemen, military personnel were deployed to Aden.[RL30172]

2000 -- East Timor. On February 25, 2000, a small number of U.S. military personnel were deployed to support of the United Nations Transitional Administration in East Timor (UNTAET).
 

hater hurter

Active Member
And look back at the Clinton era when money and loans were handed out to all the people that couldnt afford a home and look at what happened. Oh and when Clinton decided to hand over nuclear plans to N Korea. What a wonderful idea that was. And Clinton used the military more than any other prez.... so im gonna ask...whats your point?????

Liberals are all about taxing everything and everyone dude. This dude i would guess "you" helped vote in is spending "OUR" money without thinking it through. And by the way i do believe the dems ran the house and senate for the majority of the time Bush was in office and your liberal friends in washington authorized these wars your complaining about. Educate yourself before you spew!!!!

sorry but bush definitely used the military more than clinton, he was at war almost his whole presidency for fuck sake.

also, the dems didn't gain a majority till 06.
 

what... huh?

Active Member
sorry but bush definitely used the military more than clinton, he was at war almost his whole presidency for fuck sake.

also, the dems didn't gain a majority till 06.
Used the military a lot... in 2 places.


His pops had more use than even Clinton though...

And there was a D senate in 2001 because of Jeffords.
 

NoDrama

Well-Known Member
Once again just another person who blames the opposite political party for all the wrong in the world. Its not cut and dried like that, BOTH D and R have fucked up plenty in the past. They will continue to fuck up in the present and the future. So many folks are completely blinded by their parties ideals that they don't see whats really happening. This country is starting to go into the shitter, both parties are against the Citizens of this nation. Both parties want total control of the populace, the economy and world hegemony. There are so very few politicians who really give a rats ass about "Us", they are only there to satisfy their greed and justify their bloody deeds.
 

TheBrutalTruth

Well-Known Member
Too bad.

It's not "your" country.

It's "Our" country.
You've been voted out, go to Europe, may your chains rest lightly on your ankles.

We take turns running it.
Yes, every four years a new majority oppresses a new minority. It is a system of stupidity, corruption, and sheer lunacy that ignores the Constitution and the ideals that the founders were pushing when they created this state.

This nation was not meant to lapse into the barbaric imbecility of a democracy. It was meant to be a Republic, where the rule of law was paramount, not the rule of the mob.


Last time we voted on who gets to drive Obama won by more than 10 million votes and an electoral landslide.
Wow, brain dead, aren't you. He didn't win by a landslide. FDR or Reagan won by a landslide, not Obama. Obama barely won with 5% of the vote. 3% voting the otherway could have changed the course of the nation, and I am sure if the reelection was held today Obama would get his ass handed to him.

Your arguments on tacit consent due to the victory of that socialist scumbag winning are imbecilic. No one has no right to force others to do something against their will, that is a system of tyranny and slavery.


And yeah he's a Black American.
Deal with it.
He's black, which is immaterial, there are still questions as to whether he passes the test of actually being an American.

Though, why don't you stop trying to make this a race issue, no one cares about his skin color.

So if your mad because you don't know the difference between "socialism" and "losing" maybe you should look back at the last 8 years and ask yourself after Chads in Florida, allowing 9/11, two wars, one ignored and one based on lies, US Soldiers turned into Torturers, Katrina and 3 trillion dollars literally given to the rich & war profiteers....
Oh,yes, Bush just prayed to the weather god that they would send a hurricane to wipe out New Orleans, all Bush's fault. It was bureaucratic ineptitude that was reflected in the failure of whatever organ of the state was involved in the CF that took place in New Orleans. It had nothing to do with Bush. It would not surprise me if the person in charge of that CF was a Clinton Advisor or supporter.

Iraq isn't a new war, strange how you never mention that Clinton was routinely engaged in the bombing of Iraq through out his presidency. Strange how you neglect that the United States never formally declared peace with Iraq after the first portion of the Gulf War. There was never a peace treaty, the war with Iraq was not a new war, it was the continuation of a war that has dragged out since 1991. Almost two decades.

As far as Afghanistan. I would say that it is a justifable war built on the premise of self-defense. The Taliban refused to recognize our rights to bring a person that had assaulted our nation to trial and thus we returned their lack of respect by deciding that they were not a lawful government of a people that did a fair amount to help bankrupt the Soviet Union.


Why weren't you Mad then?

Clearly because I'm more informed then you are.

But speaking of reasons to be mad, how about the unPatriot Act I and unPatriot Act II. Now, there's a reason to be mad.

What about the wire tapping, which Obama has come out of the closet as supporting. Now there's a reason to be mad. Having our Constitutional rights stripped from us by two imbeciles that couldn't speak coherently with out a teleprompter in their presence and a good speech writer covering their backsides.

Or what about that imbeciles promises that he would not raise taxes on any one making less than $250,000, $200,000 or $150,000 a year and then promptly did that by jacking up cigarette excise taxes?

How about the fact that both Bush and Obama (as well as McCain) supported bailing out a bunch of failed financial institutions that deserved to be thrown into bankruptcy for their mismanagement of their money and their client's money.

How about being mad about the fact that both Bush and Obama backed up the abortion that should be known as Government Motors.

Plenty to be mad about, but the reasons that you mention are no where near the top of the list, or even on the list at all.
 
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