AsianKatie's First Grow (Indoor)

asiankatie

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In reply to your latest pics of your plants. I too am a hydro grower and use fox farm nutes. My plants looked similarly about a week ago and slowly got worse. This same thing happened during my first grow and I couldn't identify it. The second time it crept up on me, after much research I was prepared. A quarter of the nutes from the fox farm feed schedule is about the correct ppm for this stage of growth. The problem with using distilled water and fox farm is there is a lack of calcium. Most growers find this in their hard water, but unfortunately for us we have to use soft. I respect nongreenthumbs advice, i'm just giving you another less experienced opinion. My leaves began to contort and get dry, later spots began to show up on my leaves. I got a cal/mag supplement that has mg,fe,mn, and ca in it to help with lockout. First day the plants perked up and that "lush vegatative growth" promised by the FF came true.

not trying to scare you, just if you can't get it under control this may be your answer.

"all posts are ficticious in nature and false in substance"
ok so you think i need a calcium supplement for them? I am using RO on this water change that had the pH changed.

so the calcium and magnesium are missing from the FF grow big? interesting thought.. What is lockout?

^_^ let me know asap so maybe i can go pick this up tomorrow, as it is my day off from school
 

charlesiii

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I was just putting it out there that I had that problem with the fox farm trio. It's actually not their problem but ours. There is a thread around here that has alot of information on it about this subject. I believe KindPrincess suffered a ca deficiency and that's where I got all my information. Give credit where credit is due lol. Well unfortunately today is NOT my day off from class so I gotta go!

Cheers :peace:
 

asiankatie

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I was just putting it out there that I had that problem with the fox farm trio. It's actually not their problem but ours. There is a thread around here that has alot of information on it about this subject. I believe KindPrincess suffered a ca deficiency and that's where I got all my information. Give credit where credit is due lol. Well unfortunately today is NOT my day off from class so I gotta go!

Cheers :peace:
so i noticed that the foxfarm DOES have Ca and Mag. so... i didnt buy it just yet. i went and the guy was giving me some story but hes fat and i hate him. the guy that is uber helpful wasnt there.
 

asiankatie

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Should I just wait another day or so and see what happens? with the water change and the less nutes? or should i go out and buy Ca + Mag supplement?

Day 15 for survivor.. not lookin too good.


Here we have everybody:
 

Kant

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The plant closest to the camera in the second pic looks like it's starting to show the same symptoms as the survivor. hmmm...I would recommend putting the nutes back in. but you should probably wait for gygax or ras to look at them first as they have far more experience then i do.
 

asiankatie

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OKAY! so, we HAVE come to the conclusion that this is NOT nute burn? it is rather a deficiency?

Is it possible i am not using ENOUGH nutes?

or should i just go get some Calcium/Magnesium supplement
 

nongreenthumb

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Deficiency could occur though with having too much nutrient or having the ph out of position. When certain elements are there they can lock out the other nutrients, this is the guessing games that come when growing in dwc and not using meters.
 

Kant

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Of your 5 plants only 2 seem to be suffering from the problem. It's also the 2 biggest. If the problem was an excess of nutes then the youngest ones should have been affected first, being that they are the most fragile. the two big gals have high nute demands than the others, so a low about of nutes might satisfy the little ones but could be insufficent for the big ones. I could be way off the mark so don't take this as fact. like ntg said, it's a guessing game.
 

asiankatie

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Of your 5 plants only 2 seem to be suffering from the problem. It's also the 2 biggest. If the problem was an excess of nutes then the youngest ones should have been affected first, being that they are the most fragile. the two big gals have high nute demands than the others, so a low about of nutes might satisfy the little ones but could be insufficent for the big ones. I could be way off the mark so don't take this as fact. like ntg said, it's a guessing game.
so you thinks i should add more... ill try it. uhm should i follow the foxfarm chart?
 

Galvatron

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have you ever sprayed the plants with water and kept them under the light afterwards? the yellow spots kind of look like water droplet burns. just a guess.
 

Micheal Kelso

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I would say yes, they need to be fed but I am not a DWC pro.

Looks like you have 10 gallons of water in your res... ( 5ml per gallon = 50ml - at 1/4 strength = 12.5ml , just round down to 10ml ) I would put about 10ml of the Grow Big in there, and 10ml of the Cal/Mag. If you have the rest of the Fox Farm nutes I would go ahead and add some Big Bloom in there too...

10 days old or so? - roots out of web pots and into the water? They are searching for food by now I would say. At 10 days old they should be bigger but that is just my opinion.

http://www.foxfarmfertilizer.com/hydrofeed.pdf

But hey, it looks like other people have been helping you on this and probably have more experience that I - so I would check with who you trust on this before you do it, I am just kind of stepping in and just giving my 2 cents is all....
 

asiankatie

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yeah it now has 15 ml of fox farm in it. temp is at 65F, pH approx 5.8 still. and the doors are open so we got some air flow.

I'm getting from the best person ever, Gyp, some flora nova. should be here in a couple days. and just ordered my ppm meter should ship out today too.

breathe.... breathe... cross your fingers until then
 

nongreenthumb

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Without a ppm meter you can merely speculate whats going on, the same with a good ppm meter. I'm sorry but i just don't trust the drops.
 
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