Should I let my hermie mature?

[tckfui]

ohh... good point... but... my plants are only about 17... so they are probably very cruel ... unless they were beaten as children... which I didnt do... ... ... much of...
what does you think?

 

[PlasmaRadio]

I can just imagine you yelling at your plants, "YOU WERE A BAD SEED TO BEGIN WITH! I TAKE YOU IN, I FEED YOU, I PUT A GROW LIGHT OVER YOUR HEAD AND THIS IS HOW YOU REPAY ME?!"

Then I guess you would proceed to rough it up a little.

 

[mr.x007]

is it true that seeds off a herm is where they get the fem. seeds from?i tryed to solve this myself but my herm didnt make it threw when i trans planted it to a new location to get it away from the other 5 females

 

[tckfui]

yea its somthing like that... just more cursing... and a bat...

 

[tckfui]

I read that if you buy feminized seeds. and than make one of your females turn hermie by light poisoning or other poinong you will get female seeds

 

[newbutpersistent]

Have I been wrong in assuming that hermied seeds ARE feminized? I mean, doesn't it make sense, if there's only the XX chromosomes in a female plant, wouldn't the offspring have to be XX (female)?

 

[tckfui]

I dont know how hermies work... I mean they must have Xx... but there has to be a y in there somewear right?
seeds from a hermie are supost to make hermie seeds...

 

[newbutpersistent]

I think, from what I've read of plant genetics in general is that, If you have a natural female and mess with the light it will hermie. The seeds from this plant will be female (b/c of the chromosomes). I think the problem with getting alot of hermie plants from seeds of a hermieplant is due to multiple generations of hermies. i.e. one female gets forced to hermie, then it's seeds are female, wonderful right? Knowing what your seeds are going to turn out to be. So shit, why not turn those daughters into hermies? Have a whole new set of feminized seeds? Hell, you could even sell them for more than regular seeds. Now, say you sell them or just want to plant and always know that your seeds are female. Why can't you just keep making hermies out of the next generation (at least one plant, in an area by itself)? Because hermaphroditism is a genetic trait that, althoug can be brought on by enviromental factors, can also be passed down in the genes, if you get "feminzed" seeds from a hermied plant that is the like the 6th or 7th generation of all hermies, it would most likely start passing down the hermaphroditic trait, meaning that now most of the seeds will be hermies with the environmental changes.

 

[newbutpersistent]

From what I've read ( which I admit isn't that extensive, I'm not a researcher in horticulture), there isn't any Y chromosome, I'm not sure why messing with the light schedule and certain chemicals make it a hermie. They are not like humans, I don't belive, you don't NEED the male Y chromosome to fertilize. I believe that all the components to begin a new life(seed) are in the female (and probably male) plant. It's just that seed production isn't "naturally" begun until pollen is present from the male. However the light cycle must confuse the female plant and force it to start seed production. I would also bet that if a research school studied the pollen from a male plant and from a hermie plant they would not be the same pollen. Meaning the female plant doesn't suddenly have the male DNA. It is liekly I assume that it is a different kind of pollen that the female produces to force itself to flower. That's what makes sense to me, however I haven't actually attempted to research that aspect.

 

[bluntedinwarren]

i had a hermie that i let mature fully...was my only plant...i have TONS of seeds from it....i was gonna try em out next spring outside to see what happens but i dont wanna waste the time inside cuz im limited on space just in case they do tend to be hermie...will never grow 1 of them again.....not inside anyways....but from what i understand they will either be hermie or female ...both of which do produce bud...so maybe good for a guirella grow outside...this is what it looked like cpl weeks b4 harvest

 

[bluntedinwarren]

i only got 1/2oz of dried seeded buds from it after like 3-4mos of effort....smoked real good though and was better than the shit u buy off the streets

 

[quadrophine]

all I heard on the subject is that hermie plants pollinated with their own pollen produce seeds that tend to be female. Which, is understandable. you probably won't get a batch of seeds that's 100 percent female, but chances are it will a higher female to male ratio.

 

[kochab]

but then there is the fuss going on about how hermies only make hermi seeds......if this is true then they arent making femminzed seeds and if thats not how they get feminized...........then HOW?
im looking into making my seed crop femm'ed so i would like to learn if anyone has any reaserch or data to prove their input

 

[kt0s.6o4]

im looking into making my seed crop femm'ed so i would like to learn if anyone has any reaserch or data to prove their input

heres a quote from another site i found while looking into the matter

Creating feminized seeds is an art, there are a few different methods of application. I have written about some of my different methods of making seeds in previous HIGH TIMES articles. I have use gibberellic acid, light stress, ph stress, and fertilizer stress to force my plants to make seeds. All these methods are harsh on the plants, and some like the gibbrellic acid, are not organic. In my search for cleaner more earth-friendly ways of working with the cannabis plant, I have found a new way to make feminized seeds.
Feminized seeds occur as a result of stress, other than genetics. All cannabis plants can and will make male flowers under stress. Certain strains like a higher PH, some like a lower one. Some like a lot of food, some like a lot less. There is quite a lot of variety in marijuana genetics, and you can’t treat every plant the same way.
It takes many harvests before you really get to know a particular strain. Just like getting to know human friends, it takes time. I have grown strains for a decade and am truly getting to know every nuance the different plants exhibit. I can recognize them from a distance. I must say that I get a lot of help from my friends, both in making seeds and learning new and better ways of working with this sacred plant.

I named this new method “Rodelization” after a friend who helped me realize and make use of this way of creating female seeds. After growing crop after crop of the same plant in the same conditions, I noticed that if I flowered the plants 10-14 days longer than usual, they would develop male “bananas”. A male banana is a very slight male flower on a female marijuana plant that is formed because of stress. Usually they do not let out any pollen early enough to make seeds, but they sometimes do. They are a built in safety factor so in case of sever conditions, the plant can make sure that the species is furthered.
To me a male banana is quite a beautiful thing. It has the potential of making all female seeds. Many growers out there have male banana phobia. They see one and have heart palpitations, they want to cut down the entire crop or at least take tweezers and pluck the little yellow emerging devices out. I call them “Emergency Devices” because they emerge at times of stress.
In the Rodelization method, the male banana is very valuable. After growing your female plant 10-14 days longer than usual, hang them up to dry, then carefully take them off the drying lines and inspect for bananas. Each and every banana should be removed and placed in a small bag labeled very accurately. These sealed bags can be placed in the fridge for one to two months and still remain potent.
For the second phase you need to already have a crop that’s already 2 ½ weeks into flowering. Take your sealed bag of pollen out of the fridge, and proceed to impregnate your new crop of females. To do this, you must first match the female plant and the pollen from the same strain in the previous crop. Shut down all the fans in the grow room. Then take a very fine paint brush, dip it in the bag of pollen, and paint it on the female flower. Do this to each different strain you have growing together. I have done it with ten different kinds in the same room with great success.
I use the lower flowers to make seeds, leaving the top colas seedless for smoking. This method takes time(two crops), but is completely organic and lets you have great quality smoke at the same time you make your female seeds. If you’re one of those growers that has never grown seeds for fear of not having something good to smoke, you will love this method.
You can also use this pollen to make new female crosses by cross pollinating. The older females with the bananas can be brought into the room with the younger, un-pollinated females when they are three weeks into flowering. Turn all of the circulation fans on high, and the little bits of pollen will proceed to make it around the room. Do this for several days. Six to seven weeks later you will have ripe 100% female seeds; not nearly as many as a male plant would make, but enough to start over somewhere else with the same genetics.

 

[tckfui]

Grow FAQ tells you about it... its sais in order to make feminized seds you first need to buy feminized seeds... than with thoes plants it is the only way to get fem seeds
you can take regular seeds get a female force it to turn hermie and seed itself... than get a female from those seeds... you will need to grow alot of plants to get a regular female. than force that to turn hermie. and do that for 7-10 generations... than you will have seeds that will be pretty much feminized.

 

[tckfui]

To me a male banana is quite a beautiful thing. HAHAHAHA
very informative... what site was that from... I never heard of creating fem seeds this way... not even in high times! were he claims he said it... bastard... keeping the easy tricks for the internet...

 

[kt0s.6o4]

heres a link

Making Feminized seeds... - Cannabis.com Forums Message Boards - Medical Marijuana, Cannabis Lifestyle, Weed, Culture, News

 

[kochab]

heres a link

Making Feminized seeds... - Cannabis.com Forums Message Boards - Medical Marijuana, Cannabis Lifestyle, Weed, Culture, News

no you probably shouldent but that is just another cannabis thread board just like this one. This info dosent sound like it is coming from a credible source and its coming from someone on another message board..... so im going to keep looking if i find something like this with someone more credible name to back up the info...........

 

[bluntedinwarren]

if making feminized seeds is that easy why is there still male plants around?

 

[HarvestFest2010]

are there any other plants that have two sexs I been looking and seem like everythings a hermie. I see lawn weeds that could maybe hace two sexs.