I didn't vote for Obama but...

Is he really worst than the last 8 years?

Yes, he did make fun of online pot smokers while in his youth he was a coke head, but come on, we had W.

Let's face it, it's all about race.
 

ViRedd

New Member
Its about race? Are you kidding?

Its not about race at all, its about his policies. The guy ran as a centrist and now that he's in office he's become a fascist.
 
K

Keenly

Guest
Is he really worst than the last 8 years?

Yes, he did make fun of online pot smokers while in his youth he was a coke head, but come on, we had W.

Let's face it, it's all about race.
your race baiting

and you know it
 

Green Cross

Well-Known Member
your race baiting

and you know it
I think for the poster it's all about race. I don't know of anyone who is a racist. 40 years ago maybe it was an issue, but the fascists in control are the real issue now. I don't care if his name is bush obama black white or milf.
 
I think for the poster it's all about race. I don't know of anyone who is a racist. 40 years ago maybe it was an issue, but the fascists in control are the real issue now. I don't care if his name is bush obama black white or milf.
Yet no problem with the biggest government bureaucracy ever created ie: HMS?

No problem with the Patriot Act?

No problem with illegally wiretapping your phones?

No problem giving no bid contracts to your vice president's former company?

No problem hiring mercenaries to do a job that would normally be done by a soldier?

No problem with jailing protesters?

No problem with torture?

No problem with the feds raiding medical marijuana dispensaries in California?

No problem with an increased incarceration rate for simple possession charges?

If it isn't about race, and clearly it isn't about lost freedoms, what is it about then?
 

GrowTech

stays relevant.
Yet no problem with the biggest government bureaucracy ever created ie: HMS?

No problem with the Patriot Act?

No problem with illegally wiretapping your phones?

No problem giving no bid contracts to your vice president's former company?

No problem hiring mercenaries to do a job that would normally be done by a soldier?

No problem with jailing protesters?

No problem with torture?

No problem with the feds raiding medical marijuana dispensaries in California?

No problem with an increased incarceration rate for simple possession charges?

If it isn't about race, and clearly it isn't about lost freedoms, what is it about then?
How much of this has changed? :roll:
 

hookbills

Active Member
George Bush wasn't perfect, but let's look at our current president...




If George W. Bush had spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to
take Laura Bush to a play in NYC, would you have approved?



If George W. Bush had reduced your retirement plan's holdings of
GM stock by 90% and given the unions a majority stake in GM,
would you have approved?



If George W. Bush had made a joke at the expense of the Special
Olympics, would you have approved?



If George W. Bush had given Gordon Brown a set of inexpensive
and incorrectly formatted DVDs that would not play on DVD players
in Europe, after Gordon Brown had given him a thoughtful and historically
significant gift, would you have approved?



If George W. Bush had given the Queen of England an iPod
containing videos of his speeches, would you have thought of this
as embarrassingly narcissistic, not to mention tacky?



If George W. Bush had bowed to the King of Saudi Arabia, would
you have approved?



If George W. Bush shook Venezuelan dictator Hugo Chavez's hand and
treated him like a lifelong friend, would you have approved?



If George W. Bush had visited Austria and made a reference to the non-existent "Austrian language,"
would you have brushed it off as a silly minor slip?



If George W. Bush had chosen people for his cabinet and circle of
advisors who cannot seem to stay current by paying their
income taxes on time, would you have approved?



If George W. Bush had mis-spelled the word advice would you have
hammered him for it for years like Dan Quayle and potatoe as the proof
of what a dunce he was?



If George W. Bush had burned 9,000 gallons of jet fuel
to go and plant a single tree on Earth Day, would you conclude
he's a hypocrite?



If George W. Bush's administration had okayed Air Force One flying low
over millions of people followed by a jet fighter in downtown Manhattan causing widespread panic, would you have
wondered whether or not they really understand what happened to America on 9-11?



If George W. Bush had been the first President to need a teleprompter
installed to be able to get through a press conference, would you have laughed
and said this is more proof of how he inept he is on his own
and is really controlled by much smarter men behind the scenes?



If George W. Bush had failed to send relief aid to flood victims
throughout the Midwest where more people were killed or made
homeless than in New Orleans during KATRINA, would
you want it made into a major ongoing political issue
with claims of racism and incompetence?



If George W. Bush had ordered the firing of the CEO of a major
corporation, even though he had no constitutional
authority to do so, would you have approved?



If George W. Bush had proposed to double in one year the current national
debt, which had taken more than two centuries to accumulate,
would you have approved?



If George W. Bush had then proposed to double the debt AGAIN
within 10 years, would you have approved?



If George W. Bush refused to release his college transcripts,
would you approve?



If George W. Bush asked Congress to sign a multi-trillion-dollar
1000-plus page health care reform bill that they weren't even
given the time to read first, one that even Bush had not read completely,
would you approve?



So tell everybody again, what is it about Obama that makes him so brilliant and impressive?



Can't think of anything? Don't worry, after all...



He's done all this in only 9 months -- so you'll have 3 years
and 3 months to come up with an answer.
 

Wavels

Well-Known Member
As hookbills above post demonstrates, it is Obama's glaring ineptitude and mendacity which is provoking criticism.
It has nothing whatsoever to do with race.
Egads!
:joint:
 
George Bush wasn't perfect, but let's look at our current president...




If George W. Bush had spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to
take Laura Bush to a play in NYC, would you have approved?



If George W. Bush had reduced your retirement plan's holdings of
GM stock by 90% and given the unions a majority stake in GM,
would you have approved?



If George W. Bush had made a joke at the expense of the Special
Olympics, would you have approved?



If George W. Bush had given Gordon Brown a set of inexpensive
and incorrectly formatted DVDs that would not play on DVD players
in Europe, after Gordon Brown had given him a thoughtful and historically
significant gift, would you have approved?



If George W. Bush had given the Queen of England an iPod
containing videos of his speeches, would you have thought of this
as embarrassingly narcissistic, not to mention tacky?



If George W. Bush had bowed to the King of Saudi Arabia, would
you have approved?



If George W. Bush shook Venezuelan dictator Hugo Chavez's hand and
treated him like a lifelong friend, would you have approved?



If George W. Bush had visited Austria and made a reference to the non-existent "Austrian language,"
would you have brushed it off as a silly minor slip?



If George W. Bush had chosen people for his cabinet and circle of
advisors who cannot seem to stay current by paying their
income taxes on time, would you have approved?



If George W. Bush had mis-spelled the word advice would you have
hammered him for it for years like Dan Quayle and potatoe as the proof
of what a dunce he was?



If George W. Bush had burned 9,000 gallons of jet fuel
to go and plant a single tree on Earth Day, would you conclude
he's a hypocrite?



If George W. Bush's administration had okayed Air Force One flying low
over millions of people followed by a jet fighter in downtown Manhattan causing widespread panic, would you have
wondered whether or not they really understand what happened to America on 9-11?



If George W. Bush had been the first President to need a teleprompter
installed to be able to get through a press conference, would you have laughed
and said this is more proof of how he inept he is on his own
and is really controlled by much smarter men behind the scenes?



If George W. Bush had failed to send relief aid to flood victims
throughout the Midwest where more people were killed or made
homeless than in New Orleans during KATRINA, would
you want it made into a major ongoing political issue
with claims of racism and incompetence?



If George W. Bush had ordered the firing of the CEO of a major
corporation, even though he had no constitutional
authority to do so, would you have approved?



If George W. Bush had proposed to double in one year the current national
debt, which had taken more than two centuries to accumulate,
would you have approved?



If George W. Bush had then proposed to double the debt AGAIN
within 10 years, would you have approved?



If George W. Bush refused to release his college transcripts,
would you approve?



If George W. Bush asked Congress to sign a multi-trillion-dollar
1000-plus page health care reform bill that they weren't even
given the time to read first, one that even Bush had not read completely,
would you approve?



So tell everybody again, what is it about Obama that makes him so brilliant and impressive?



Can't think of anything? Don't worry, after all...



He's done all this in only 9 months -- so you'll have 3 years
and 3 months to come up with an answer.
fucking A. sorry i only have one rep to give.+1
 

hookbills

Active Member
I am no friend of Bush either, He was well versed in spending our extorted tax dollars. I want to make a point about the reality of what is truly happening. Nobody deserves a free ride. To me it seems that Obama is receiving a free pass. I do admit I am speaking as a Libertarian / Constitutionalists
 
George Bush wasn't perfect, but let's look at our current president...




If George W. Bush had spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to
take Laura Bush to a play in NYC, would you have approved?
No, but W did spend an awful lot of time on vacation prior to september 11th 2001

Those secret service agents do not work for free.


If George W. Bush had reduced your retirement plan's holdings of
GM stock by 90% and given the unions a majority stake in GM,
would you have approved?
Actually to be fair on that one, I believe that GM should have been rightfully reduced to its real value, which was ZERO.

So if I understand you correctly, you actually think GM should have been fully bailed out? That sounds rather communist to me.

If George W. Bush had made a joke at the expense of the Special
Olympics, would you have approved?
No, but W did make fun of a reporter wearing sun glasses who happened to have glaucoma.


If George W. Bush had given Gordon Brown a set of inexpensive
and incorrectly formatted DVDs that would not play on DVD players
in Europe, after Gordon Brown had given him a thoughtful and historically
significant gift, would you have approved?



If George W. Bush had given the Queen of England an iPod
containing videos of his speeches, would you have thought of this
as embarrassingly narcissistic, not to mention tacky?
????? You really care about the one? Do you approve of the gift of war Bush gave us based on lies?

If George W. Bush had bowed to the King of Saudi Arabia, would
you have approved?
Not has much as W holding the kings hand. Kinda of a "faggy" thing if you ask me.

If George W. Bush shook Venezuelan dictator Hugo Chavez's hand and
treated him like a lifelong friend, would you have approved?
No, but then again I didn't approve of RUmsfeld shaking Saddam's hand nor did I appove of W's friendship with Kazhakstan's Nursultan Nazarbayev. Google this guy's name, you will find he has an interest in boiling people alive.


If George W. Bush had visited Austria and made a reference to the non-existent "Austrian language,"
would you have brushed it off as a silly minor slip?

W has made reference to the non-existant Chinese language.

If George W. Bush had chosen people for his cabinet and circle of
advisors who cannot seem to stay current by paying their
income taxes on time, would you have approved?
No, but I recall W nominating a clueless ditz to the Supreme Court. Even the hardcore Republicans were disgusted with nomination.

If George W. Bush had mis-spelled the word advice would you have
hammered him for it for years like Dan Quayle and potatoe as the proof
of what a dunce he was?

No, but W did mangle the English language on more than one occasion:

"Are our children learning"
"Will the highways on the internet become more few?"
"You teach a child to read, and he or her will be able to pass a literacy test"

If George W. Bush had burned 9,000 gallons of jet fuel
to go and plant a single tree on Earth Day, would you conclude
he's a hypocrite?

Well I already concluded W was a hypocrite when he decided to strengthen drug laws when in the past he has done more than his fair share of lines of blow.

If George W. Bush's administration had okayed Air Force One flying low
over millions of people followed by a jet fighter in downtown Manhattan causing widespread panic, would you have
wondered whether or not they really understand what happened to America on 9-11?

No, but then again when Andrew Card had to force W to board a place so that he can fly over New Orleans to "inspect" the dammage, that wasn't a great moment in his presidency.

If George W. Bush had been the first President to need a teleprompter
installed to be able to get through a press conference, would you have laughed
and said this is more proof of how he inept he is on his own
and is really controlled by much smarter men behind the scenes?

My response: Cheney.



If George W. Bush had failed to send relief aid to flood victims
throughout the Midwest where more people were killed or made
homeless than in New Orleans during KATRINA, would
you want it made into a major ongoing political issue
with claims of racism and incompetence?
Not Obama's best moment, but then again W did refer to people scaveging for food as looters.


If George W. Bush had ordered the firing of the CEO of a major
corporation, even though he had no constitutional
authority to do so, would you have approved?

Actually GM was nothing more than a state run company which should have pushed into bankruptcy. Read my reply above. Your obsession with controlloing the means to production would make me believe that you have a tint of pink in your political beliefs.

If George W. Bush had proposed to double in one year the current national
debt, which had taken more than two centuries to accumulate,
would you have approved?

If George W. Bush had then proposed to double the debt AGAIN
within 10 years, would you have approved?

No, but W did take a surplus and pretty much demolished it.

If George W. Bush refused to release his college transcripts,
would you approve?

No but W did refuse to release his entire military record.

If George W. Bush asked Congress to sign a multi-trillion-dollar
1000-plus page health care reform bill that they weren't even
given the time to read first, one that even Bush had not read completely,
would you approve?

No, but did you approve of W lying to congress in order to get an illagal war?

Bottom line is that I didn't vote for Obama (or MCain), but you seem to have a man crush on W and are willing to give him a free ride, I mean a really free ride if you know what I mean .


kiss-ass
 

hookbills

Active Member
No, but W did spend an awful lot of time on vacation prior to september 11th 2001

Those secret service agents do not work for free.




Actually to be fair on that one, I believe that GM should have been rightfully reduced to its real value, which was ZERO.

So if I understand you correctly, you actually think GM should have been fully bailed out? That sounds rather communist to me.



No, but W did make fun of a reporter wearing sun glasses who happened to have glaucoma.




????? You really care about the one? Do you approve of the gift of war Bush gave us based on lies?



Not has much as W holding the kings hand. Kinda of a "faggy" thing if you ask me.



No, but then again I didn't approve of RUmsfeld shaking Saddam's hand nor did I appove of W's friendship with Kazhakstan's Nursultan Nazarbayev. Google this guy's name, you will find he has an interest in boiling people alive.




W has made reference to the non-existant Chinese language.



No, but I recall W nominating a clueless ditz to the Supreme Court. Even the hardcore Republicans were disgusted with nomination.



No, but W did mangle the English language on more than one occasion:

"Are our children learning"
"Will the highways on the internet become more few?"
"You teach a child to read, and he or her will be able to pass a literacy test"



Well I already concluded W was a hypocrite when he decided to strengthen drug laws when in the past he has done more than his fair share of lines of blow.



No, but then again when Andrew Card had to force W to board a place so that he can fly over New Orleans to "inspect" the dammage, that wasn't a great moment in his presidency.



My response: Cheney.





Not Obama's best moment, but then again W did refer to people scaveging for food as looters.




Actually GM was nothing more than a state run company which should have pushed into bankruptcy. Read my reply above. Your obsession with controlloing the means to production would make me believe that you have a tint of pink in your political beliefs.



No, but W did take a surplus and pretty much demolished it.



No but W did refuse to release his entire military record.



No, but did you approve of W lying to congress in order to get an illagal war?

Bottom line is that I didn't vote for Obama (or MCain), but you seem to have a man crush on W and are willing to give him a free ride, I mean a really free ride if you know what I mean .


kiss-ass
You miss the point completely. obama is getting a free ride and anyone that disagrees with his policies is branded a racist. Bush in no way was given any kind of a free ride. Everything I posted has happened in 9 months and no backlash from the press. Bush has been out of office for 9 months now but effectively since the election. obama has done more to the US citizens in 9 months than any other president. Show me where the press has berated him as they did bush for every minuscule utterance he made....BTW I like your obama smiley at the end of your post. It must be every other leader of the world on the left
 

RickWhite

Well-Known Member
The funny thing is that white people elected Obama largely because of his race. Had he been white, and running solely on his experience and accomplishments he never would have even been considered as a candidate. He had what, two terms as a junior Senator and he won his Senate seat under dubious circumstances.

He was elected because people, for many reasons, wanted to see a seemingly articulate light skinned black man in the White House. Now when those same people don't approve of what he is doing the Left pulls the race card.

Was it also about race when the Republicans lambasted Clinton for lying about his affair?
 

hookbills

Active Member
Articulate? have you seen him without a teleprompter to read. Anyone can read a teleprompter, it takes a thinker to answer questions off the cuff.
Secondly he was elected because the media painted Mc Cain as another Bush. As poorly as the economy was going obama should have won in a landslide.
look at the popular vote statistics. I voted for neither of them so you can not call me partisan
 

NoDrama

Well-Known Member
I only had to get to
Not has much as W holding the kings hand. Kinda of a "faggy" thing if you ask me.
To realize that you havn't got a clue about what your talking about, LOL. First off not only was it with the King, but also crown prince Abdullah and holding hands in the middle east is a sign of friendship, nothing at all to do with sexual orientation. I don't have to read any of your nonsense because it is uneducated drivel that you made up.
 

RickWhite

Well-Known Member
I said "seemingly articulate" and I don't know about holding hands with King Abdullah but I'd certainly like to hold a few things on Princess Runya. Man it's good to be King.
 

MexicanWarlord420

Active Member
Articulate? have you seen him without a teleprompter to read. Anyone can read a teleprompter, it takes a thinker to answer questions off the cuff.
Secondly he was elected because the media painted Mc Cain as another Bush. As poorly as the economy was going obama should have won in a landslide.
look at the popular vote statistics. I voted for neither of them so you can not call me partisan
I think you're jealous because Barry can actually read the teleprompter.
 
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