Obama is agianst potheads!

JustAnotherFriedDay

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The bill you're referring to DOES NOT BAN anything. It gives the FDA power to regulate tobacco. The FDA ALONE has the power now to regulate tobacco. NOT Obama.

FYI: it would have become law even if he DIDN'T sign it, because it had majority support in Congress. BIPARTISAN majority support. That means republicans AND democrats in Congress voted for the bill.

It has nothing to do with "weed", and everything to do with tobacco.
Haha you must be kidding. Whens the last time you heard kids saying "lets go get buzzed as shit off swishers!"

You think banning papers is a tobacco thing?

How many people do you know who roll their own flavored cigarettes?
 

JustAnotherFriedDay

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There's a fringe conspiracy theory that Obama isn't a true citizen, and therefore ineligible for the office of president.

It's utter bullshit, and anyone who believes it is a fool.
Whether, it's true or not, you remain one of the most ignorant people on this site.

Coming out and saying anyone who believes it is a fool is equivalent to saying anyone who doesn't believe it is a fool.

Why? Because you don't really know. You just say you know that Obama was born here, and in your mind you are right because if you are ignorant of other perspectives you can't integrate others views to your own.

It's like you have the education, but absolutely no street smarts or flexibility.

Your so partisan and "optimistic" that everything is going to work out for the best you miss clear evidence of the opposite.
 

snail240

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Wait, you've been to court 4 times for tax evasion? I thought you said earlier that they've never come knocking on your door because you didn't pay taxes? If you've been to court 4 times for not paying taxes, that tells me that at some point (4 points, actually) someone came knocking on your door to serve you with a summons to show up in court.

BTW, the federal government can tax you on "donations" and "gifts".
Its called phone calls asshole you know they call you just like everyother BILL COLLECTER! You are just so full of your self. You acttualy think mobsters come to your house and beat you up for back taxes and take you to prison for not having money? Dude I crack up every time you post because its so stupid and full of its self.

Yes have been to quart for it just like people go to court for credit cards(people like you) nobody shows up in men in black type suites to intemidate you that would be illegal. They can ask for they money thats it and take you to court thats IT.
 

doobnVA

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Haha you must be kidding. Whens the last time you heard kids saying "lets go get buzzed as shit off swishers!"

You think banning papers is a tobacco thing?

How many people do you know who roll their own flavored cigarettes?

The ban on papers is SECONDARY to the ban on flavored tobacco products and cigarettes.

Cigarette rolling papers are a component of cigarettes, so they fall into the ban.

Yes, it's a tobacco thing. Whether or not I know anyone who rolls their own flavored cigarettes is irrelevant. The ban is on flavored cigarettes and tobacco products, which includes cigarette rolling papers.
 

CrackerJax

New Member
Whether, it's true or not, you remain one of the most ignorant people on this site.

Coming out and saying anyone who believes it is a fool is equivalent to saying anyone who doesn't believe it is a fool.

Why? Because you don't really know. You just say you know that Obama was born here, and in your mind you are right because if you are ignorant of other perspectives you can't integrate others views to your own.

It's like you have the education, but absolutely no street smarts or flexibility.

Your so partisan and "optimistic" that everything is going to work out for the best you miss clear evidence of the opposite.
if you apply logic dear poster, how can you get Doob to understand ur post? He hasn't any.....:lol: Like trying to teach a duck how to become a bear.


Flavored cig's have been banned as well i believe.... EXCEPT menthol. Why??? Oh g*DS of hypocrisy.... because it is popular.
 

doobnVA

Well-Known Member
Its called phone calls asshole you know they call you just like everyother BILL COLLECTER! You are just so full of your self. You acttualy think mobsters come to your house and beat you up for back taxes and take you to prison for not having money? Dude I crack up every time you post because its so stupid and full of its self.

Yes have been to quart for it just like people go to court for credit cards(people like you) nobody shows up in men in black type suites to intemidate you that would be illegal. They can ask for they money thats it and take you to court thats IT.

The only thing that's funny is your inability to actually UNDERSTAND the words that are coming out of my keyboard.

Did I say "men in black" came to your house? No, but a summons to appear in court isn't generally served by telephone. Mail, maybe, but not telephone. Maybe nobody "physically" showed up at your house to serve the summons, but the summons came from the government - so your insistence that nobody cares if you pay your taxes or not has already been contradicted by your OWN statement that you've gone to court 4 times for tax evasion.

do you really believe you can't go to prison for tax evasion? Seriously? You're on the internet. All the proof you need is literally AT YOUR FINGERTIPS. Just google "prison sentence for tax evasion" and see what comes up.
 

doobnVA

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if you apply logic dear poster, how can you get Doob to understand ur post? He hasn't any.....:lol: Like trying to teach a duck how to become a bear.


Flavored cig's have been banned as well i believe.... EXCEPT menthol. Why??? Oh g*DS of hypocrisy.... because it is popular.

The whole point of the ban IS flavored cigarettes, YOU IDIOT! Papers just happen to fall under the FDA's definition of "cigarettes".
 

snail240

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The ban on papers is SECONDARY to the ban on flavored tobacco products and cigarettes.

Cigarette rolling papers are a component of cigarettes, so they fall into the ban.

Yes, it's a tobacco thing. Whether or not I know anyone who rolls their own flavored cigarettes is irrelevant. The ban is on flavored cigarettes and tobacco products, which includes cigarette rolling papers.
Yeah thats why you can still buy menthol smokes and grape flavored blunt sticks.

I swear if you think that they aint gonna ban pipes and bongs your crazy. They are gonna say pipes and bongs advertise and intise kids to smoke because they look like toys.

Go throw everything that has to do with smoking anything away for the kids sence you support this otherwise your just a hypocrite blowing smoke.
 

doobnVA

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Yeah thats why you can still buy menthol smokes and grape flavored blunt sticks.

I swear if you think that they aint gonna ban pipes and bongs your crazy. They are gonna say pipes and bongs advertise and intise kids to smoke because they look like toys.

Go throw everything that has to do with smoking anything away for the kids sence you support this otherwise your just a hypocrite blowing smoke.

For pete's sake.. What do you NOT understand about the FDA now regulating TOBACCO? The FDA has NOTHING to do with the enforcement of cannabis laws.

Menthol cigarettes are excluded, probably because tobacco industry lobbyists made sure they were excluded. BLUNTS are cigars, not cigarettes. The ban is on flavored cigarettes.

You know, the FDA has a website that addresses all these things. It's really only a click away.

www.fda.gov

How does knowing what's included in the ban make me a hypocrite? Excuse me for being informed on the subject and not spewing a bunch of worthless conjecture.

I live a stone's throw away from Altria headquarters (I'm sure you don't know who they are, though), so this ban has been BIG news around here.
 

CrackerJax

New Member
Answer the question please instead of the constant evasion.


Why not Kools and Newports...

please mr. informed and protector of all things governmental......
 

darkdestruction420

Well-Known Member
For pete's sake.. What do you NOT understand about the FDA now regulating TOBACCO? The FDA has NOTHING to do with the enforcement of cannabis laws.

Menthol cigarettes are excluded, probably because tobacco industry lobbyists made sure they were excluded. BLUNTS are cigars, not cigarettes. The ban is on flavored cigarettes.

You know, the FDA has a website that addresses all these things. It's really only a click away.

www.fda.gov

How does knowing what's included in the ban make me a hypocrite? Excuse me for being informed on the subject and not spewing a bunch of worthless conjecture.

I live a stone's throw away from Altria headquarters (I'm sure you don't know who they are, though), so this ban has been BIG news around here.
just give up bro, they are never gonna accept the truth, its all obamas plot to rule the world..........the fact that congress made the bill that gave the fda power over tobacco was made by congress and the fda was the one who banned flavored tobacco and papers is irrelevent to them.
 

doobnVA

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Answer the question please instead of the constant evasion.


Why not Kools and Newports...

please mr. informed and protector of all things governmental......

If you actually READ my post above yours, you'd see I DID, in fact, answer that question.

I'll say it again since you seem to have missed it the first time - Menthols aren't included in the ban because they are popular, and the tobacco industry probably lobbied to have menthol excluded from the ban for that very reason.


And that's Ms. informed, to you.
 

doobnVA

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That's just something you made up. I don't discuss events that way.

LOL. Sure you don't.

Something I made up, huh? So, lobbyists DON'T pay to have their interests "looked after", huh?

It's much more likely that menthols aren't banned because Obama smokes them, right? and it's proven fact, not just something YOU made up, right?

Give me a fucking break.
 

JustAnotherFriedDay

Well-Known Member
The whole point of the ban IS flavored cigarettes, YOU IDIOT! Papers just happen to fall under the FDA's definition of "cigarettes".
CJ, you got under his skin. Low self-esteem I tell you.

Doob, the point remains that flavored cigarettes aren't advertised towards kids at all. By kids I mean people who are not of legal age to smoke.

Anyone else is considered an adult by society in all respects but the legality to drink and gamble (who knows why? college kids drink more than anyone, and the 18 year old card houses around college campuses are always packed. 21 is the legal age for casinos with slots but casinos with just card games can be 18+. anyway got side tracked).

Kids can't buy cigarettes, that's the bottom line.

It's not like a 16 year old is going to start suddenly asking his 18 year old friends for flavored cigarettes because they are so much better than normal cigarettes and OMG HE SAW THEM IN THE STORE ONE DAY AND JUST HAD TO TRY THEM ALDKFJALDJF.

No.

It's either the kid is into it or he's not. They like (and are addicted to) the feeling of the tobacco, not the taste of it.
 
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