How do I poly up&insulate a window without the insulation buckling on the inside REP+

[lifesgood]

I wanna poly up and insulate a wall with a window.... im going to put poly up fist then insulation then poly again , ive done this before but sometime the isulation buckles as it sits on one another and falls on the poly on the inside walls....

Any way i could frame up or support that insulation in a fast cheap way?

 

[HHGTTG420]

You can create a frame out of wood that would fit the window, prob will need to cover the cracks between window and frame with expanding foam.

Like this;
Wood Fram (I suck with sizes, but something about 1/4" thick
Mount poly to frame
Do an internal Frame w/ 1/2" thick wood or thicker depending on need
insulation goes inside internal frame
Mount poly to internal frame
add another wood frame about 1/4" thick to the poly.

And as I type this, that was the question you just asked. lol

I'd go 1/4" to 1/2" to 1/4" and use the insulation in the 1/2" thick part. If you have thicker insulation you can use thicker wood. From there, you can mount a variety of ways, long screw to window frame, hooks, etc. Just make sure you use expanding foam around the edges to get a good seal.

Edit: wow, this post sucks..

Ok, what kind of insulation are you using? you can do beams through the middle to attach the rolling insulation if that's whats your using. that should reduce buckle. I was reading that as you were just trying to insulate the window.

 

[lifesgood]

sorry man im a lil high and its not as simple as the headline state its lil more difficult to explain .... but i think u get it now though....

Im gonna use rolux sound proofing insulation, its not a mater of puting insulation around the window, its a mater putting up a wall of insulation behdin the window just using that wall the windows on to hold up the insulation and poly on the other side .... im not to keen on buiulding a frame i think there is a cheaper easier way of holdint it up..

any ideas??

 

[lifesgood]

bump..... :

 

[demonic1]

Take a picture of what you want to do to give us a better idea. From the sounds of it, couldn't you just hang another sheet of poly over the window first?

 

[doublejj]

Styrofoam 4X8 sheets from Home Depot.

Cut to any shape you want.

Peace
jj

 

[HHGTTG420]

sorry man im a lil high and its not as simple as the headline state its lil more difficult to explain .... but i think u get it now though....

Im gonna use rolux sound proofing insulation, its not a mater of puting insulation around the window, its a mater putting up a wall of insulation behdin the window just using that wall the windows on to hold up the insulation and poly on the other side .... im not to keen on buiulding a frame i think there is a cheaper easier way of holdint it up..

any ideas??

Frames arn't that difficult or expensive to build, a lot of time I use scrap wood for it. But I'm still having difficulty trying to get my head around what your doing (could be the wake n bake though).

If you haven't already, I'd tint the window, it'll make it difficult to tell if its blocked off unless you get real close. Otherwise you'll easily see that a wall was built around the window and it probably wouldn't take someone with an active imagination to figure out why.

I'm assuming you want to poly up the window first to make it flush with the wall then insulate w/the sound proofing stuff? Pictures would help tremendously.

 

[Sjerpsy]

You don't want to use to layers of poly! Make sure you get "super 6" its the thinkness. If there is no framing then I would suggest looking into Blanket Insulation.Its basically a roll of insulation,pre-poly'd with a metal band at the bottom.Take some pics,I've been insulating houses for a couple years now I can help you out for sure...just did two basements yesterday

 

[lifesgood]

Heres some pics of what im working with... its a normal wall with a window in in it, i would be fine with just polying it up from the inside twice hoever my meter is right on the other side of this wall ... so that is why im puttin gup this insulation as an extra safty measure

im going to polyup behind the window, then insulate against that poly and then poly up the insulation again.

I am not to keen on building to much just in case i have to take it down quickly ... i would prefer to be able to dissasmeble any of my projects as quickly as i put htem up ....

Ive looked inot that styrofam insulation and it works great my only cecern is the same as the with the soft insulation is because it comes in rectngles i have to stak it up then nuthing is holding it then it will buckle on me after a few months

However this roll of insualtion sounds perfect... do u have a pic or name of this stuff...

 

[lifesgood]

bump.....:

 

[fdd2blk]

 

[Brick Top]

Just attach this to your walls and be done with it:

Polystyrene Foam Sheeting (more commonly known as Styrofoam):

This is excellent for harsh environment growrooms (your attic for example), provided you have a good ventilation system and a way to keep the temperatures from rising too high (an a/c unit or similar) as it is an excellent insulator.

It is also a great material for use in a temporary setup or for use as a "travelling reflector" on a light mover, where weight is a concern. It is approximately 75-85% light reflective so it is comparable to using a flat white paint. Foam will not create hot spots. Rigid foam can be purchased in sheets, and can be used as a free standing wall or can be taped, glued or nailed to the wall, the last generally being the most successful method.


If you have to make a frame of some sort consider using PVC. It is light and cheap and with so many fittings and couplers etc. with just a hacksaw and the stickum you can build anything in any shape cheap and easy and with very little mess.

 

[lifesgood]

LOL!! u think that will hold up hanging insulation... i used tuctape but it fell off as the insulaiton was like particles on the tape.

 

[fdd2blk]

LOL!! u think that will hold up hanging insulation... i used tuctape but it fell off as the insulaiton was like particles on the tape.

doesn't it have paper on one side. i usually just staple it.

 

[lifesgood]

no its just the fuzzy stuff, i tried stpaling it before not only did the staple not go through, but i didnt want to be peircing the poly and there is a window where i could nto staple it to

 

[lifesgood]

Just attach this to your walls and be done with it:

Polystyrene Foam Sheeting (more commonly known as Styrofoam):

This is excellent for harsh environment growrooms (your attic for example), provided you have a good ventilation system and a way to keep the temperatures from rising too high (an a/c unit or similar) as it is an excellent insulator.

It is also a great material for use in a temporary setup or for use as a "travelling reflector" on a light mover, where weight is a concern. It is approximately 75-85% light reflective so it is comparable to using a flat white paint. Foam will not create hot spots. Rigid foam can be purchased in sheets, and can be used as a free standing wall or can be taped, glued or nailed to the wall, the last generally being the most successful method.


If you have to make a frame of some sort consider using PVC. It is light and cheap and with so many fittings and couplers etc. with just a hacksaw and the stickum you can build anything in any shape cheap and easy and with very little mess.

Great post REP + i like the pvc idea... after going thtrough the tread im eaither goin got use the blanket or this styrofoam sheets against the first layer of poly taped down... cheers thanks for the info guys ill update u on my groww thread about the succes of this wall :