Bubblelicious, New York Power Diesel, and Super Skunk in DWC

Integra21

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I forgot, as far as the rebuild, I said it was owner rebuildable for a reason. If you can work a phillips screwdriver and open a beer, you got the skills required to rebuild this pump.
 

Bob Smith

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I forgot, as far as the rebuild, I said it was owner rebuildable for a reason. If you can work a phillips screwdriver and open a beer, you got the skills required to rebuild this pump.
Lol..........well in that case, I'm giving myself a 50/50 shot.
 

Bob Smith

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lol, you know how to work the beer and not the screwdriver i assume.
Actually not too great at either, more of a bourbon man (read: alcoholic).

Anyways, after hours and hours of working and feeling like I was making no progress, I'm actually starting to see the fruits of my labor.

Got a spot cleared to re-setup my flowering tent, but first, need to get this cloner all setup - in case anyone watched me do it last time, I only made 15 spots in the lid (dar di dar dar), so I'm making a new one with 20 spots and a hole for pH testing without lifting the lid.

Shouldn't take me more then fifteen minutes, tops..............starting.................now.
 

Twils

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Actually not too great at either, more of a bourbon man (read: alcoholic).

Anyways, after hours and hours of working and feeling like I was making no progress, I'm actually starting to see the fruits of my labor.

Got a spot cleared to re-setup my flowering tent, but first, need to get this cloner all setup - in case anyone watched me do it last time, I only made 15 spots in the lid (dar di dar dar), so I'm making a new one with 20 spots and a hole for pH testing without lifting the lid.

Shouldn't take me more then fifteen minutes, tops..............starting.................now.
Ooo 15 minutes are up Bob!

Hope all of the rebuild goes well, I'll post the pics I have of my system for you..

As much as I'd hate to say it, at this point in the game it would almost be worth just buying a system from the hydro shop and get on the ball, After $$"xxx" on buckets,pumps, air stones blah blah blah, it damn near adds up to the same cost.

Keep up the hard work, it will pay off soon!


Burn on!:peace:bongsmilie
 

Bob Smith

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Ooo 15 minutes are up Bob!

Hope all of the rebuild goes well, I'll post the pics I have of my system for you..

As much as I'd hate to say it, at this point in the game it would almost be worth just buying a system from the hydro shop and get on the ball, After $$"xxx" on buckets,pumps, air stones blah blah blah, it damn near adds up to the same cost.

Keep up the hard work, it will pay off soon!


Burn on!:peace:bongsmilie
Are you referring to me buying a system? Because if I do, I'd just buy a reservoir and a stand for the 4x4 table the dude there gave me - already have the pump and everything else I'd need. But I'm with you, the money and time building systems that don't work is getting annoying - could've had a new aeroflo or two by now.

And I thought someone would call me on that 15 minutes (truthfully only took about three, only had to drill some holes).

Anyways, the pics are where we stand so far.

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Finally cleared a space to put up my flowering tent (you can even see the poles in the background). Sadly, alcoholism calls, and my unemployed ass is going out to happy hour.

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Using all these "ruined" buckets as storage - they fit perfectly on those shelves, three per shelf.

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My sativa mama handled the cloning pretty well, although she's definitely feeling a little cold right now from being almost naked.

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My indica mama got ravaged and is butt nekked, freezing her ass off. Interested to see how long it takes her to recover.

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And here's where all their clothes went - PPM's around 750, pH @ 6.0. You can see the water droplets on the lid from before I covered the holes with the neoprene inserts, so all the stems should be getting nice and agitated. FYI, got a cheapo thermometer from Walmart, and my bucket temps are all at 70. That blue thing in the middle is a cutout from a $1.50 vinyl placemat from Walmart, works great to light-proof my pH test hole.

Anyhow, I'm off to go drinking for a bit, back later on tonight.
 

tmsculli

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Dang Bob, now you're talking buddy. I'm really curious as to why everyone's clones that I see are big and thick stemmed with a shit ton of big leaves and people told me to cut a piece under 5" from the bottom, with a .25" stem or less and clip all the leaves except the top pair and cut them in half haha.

Neoprene collars look waaaay too convenient.
 

Earl

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Are you running 750ppm on your cuts before they root ?

I run 200ppm with my cuts until they rooted,
just so I can pH adjust to 5.5-5.8

Why brand of nutes are you using to foster your cuts ?
 

Bob Smith

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Dang Bob, now you're talking buddy. I'm really curious as to why everyone's clones that I see are big and thick stemmed with a shit ton of big leaves and people told me to cut a piece under 5" from the bottom, with a .25" stem or less and clip all the leaves except the top pair and cut them in half haha.

Neoprene collars look waaaay too convenient.
That's a method a lot of people use, but personally I like to see the tips of the leaves turn a bit yellow to let me know when they're getting hungry for more nutes, and that'd be kinda hard with no leaf tips.

Never tried cutting the leaves, in all honesty, because I've never had to.
 

Integra21

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Dang Bob, now you're talking buddy. I'm really curious as to why everyone's clones that I see are big and thick stemmed with a shit ton of big leaves and people told me to cut a piece under 5" from the bottom, with a .25" stem or less and clip all the leaves except the top pair and cut them in half haha.

Neoprene collars look waaaay too convenient.
Usually you have higher success rates with thicker stemed clones, but if the stem is bark like, its no good. Neoprene is a blessing. I used to cut all of the big leaves in half to slow tranpiration when I cloned in rockwool and dirt, but with my dwc cloner, i just cut, dip in root tech, insert into neoprene, and drop it in. I dont need a humidity dome any more, which was the biggest plus. Keep an eye on those clones though bob. usually you'll have roots in 7-10days in a setup like that, and then in a matter of an additional week or two, the roots will all grow together and make it very difficult to remove them. I give this advice after making that smae mistake twice. Enjoy happy hour.
 

Bob Smith

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Are you running 750ppm on your cuts before they root ?

I run 200ppm with my cuts until they rooted,
just so I can pH adjust to 5.5-5.8

Why brand of nutes are you using to foster your cuts ?
Yes sir; have found that trying to root with no nutes always leaves them begging for nutes come day 3 or 4, so I figured I'd cut out the middleman this time around.

The nutes I'm using are GH Flora, and a tsp of Superthrive in there as well.

Hoping to see some roots within the week (would usually hope for four or five days, but based on my previous experience, this is a slow-cloning strain).
 

Bob Smith

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Usually you have higher success rates with thicker stemed clones, but if the stem is bark like, its no good. Neoprene is a blessing. I used to cut all of the big leaves in half to slow tranpiration when I cloned in rockwool and dirt, but with my dwc cloner, i just cut, dip in root tech, insert into neoprene, and drop it in. I dont need a humidity dome any more, which was the biggest plus. Keep an eye on those clones though bob. usually you'll have roots in 7-10days in a setup like that, and then in a matter of an additional week or two, the roots will all grow together and make it very difficult to remove them. I give this advice after making that smae mistake twice. Enjoy happy hour.
Yeah, I'll be keeping an eye on them - want vigorous growth, but not so much that I can't get them outta the hole.

And I used to use Clonex to dip them into, but a friend told me a while back to just put them in your mouth for a second or two, which is what I've done and still do.

Okay guys and gals, heading down to Phillay, get at you all either WAY early in the morning or tomorrow.
 

Integra21

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My moms are covered in neem oil and Bang(pyrethrin), so I dont plan on putting mine in my mouth any time soon. I have tried, and I dont need to put anything on them, but I have 3 tubs of roottech just laying around, so I might as well use it.
 

Bob Smith

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Is bothering the shit outta me - not to the point where it's really a "big" problem yet, but if I don't add 50mL of 3% H2O2 to each bucket every day, the roots get all slimy (was too hungover to do anything but check the pH yesterday, so today saw some nice snot on the roots).

Sooooo, cut off all the slimy roots today (first time doing that) and added some more H2O2 to everyone's bucket - I'm pretty damn sure that all the containers are light-proof, but my rez temps did get up to about 74 because of the warm temps we had here - thinking that problem should go away soon enough with it getting colder, but it's really an annoyance.

Also got me thinking about what's gonna happen in my flowering tent, as I'm probably gonna be running temps at 82-85 with the CO2 enrichment - anyone have any thoughts? Making me think that to run CO2 I might have to go E&F with a water chiller in order to keep rez temps down, or have all my air pumps outside of the tent (big headache), where the ambient temps will be more in the 55-65 range.

Of course, if there's an additive (heard good things about Cannazyme from the searches I've done) that will preclude root rot from forming, I'm all ears, but it's gotta be something that I can just add with water changes, because I'm not gonna be adding H2O2 to 16 buckets every day.

FYI, all the plants are doing well, with the Super Skunk just flourishing (growing about an inch or more daily), the NYPD doing "okay", and the Bubblelicious making me think I might just cull the three that are left.
 

Integra21

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If your resivor is peaking at 74F and your getting root rot, something else is going on. Same if it keeps clearing up and coming back. High levles of nitrogen can cause poor root health. You aren't using any organic nutrients are you? Asking because h202 kills organic fertalizers. Does your res smell foul? How strong are you mixing your nutrients? Is there enough air in the buckets? I have an idea for a makeshift res chiller. I an going to try it when I get the money, but I had an Idea of putting my air pumps in a mini-fridge and drilling holes for the lines. Leaving the fridge at a fairly low temp, and seeing what this could produce. I was hoping for a 5-10F teperature drop. I have not tested this yet though, It is just an Idea. But the best one I could come up with to chill multiple resivors with a single cheap and small unit. I know you have a lot of pumps, but you couuld still fit a bunch in. If you are interested i can fill you in on the more complete discription, but if not, I understand, since I have not yet verified if this would work.
 

Bob Smith

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If your resivor is peaking at 74F and your getting root rot, something else is going on. Same if it keeps clearing up and coming back. High levles of nitrogen can cause poor root health. You aren't using any organic nutrients are you? Asking because h202 kills organic fertalizers. Does your res smell foul? How strong are you mixing your nutrients? Is there enough air in the buckets? I have an idea for a makeshift res chiller. I an going to try it when I get the money, but I had an Idea of putting my air pumps in a mini-fridge and drilling holes for the lines. Leaving the fridge at a fairly low temp, and seeing what this could produce. I was hoping for a 5-10F teperature drop. I have not tested this yet though, It is just an Idea. But the best one I could come up with to chill multiple resivors with a single cheap and small unit. I know you have a lot of pumps, but you couuld still fit a bunch in. If you are interested i can fill you in on the more complete discription, but if not, I understand, since I have not yet verified if this would work.
Thanks for your input; using GH, so no organic, and also using only Macro and Bloom, so kind of doubt that they're getting too much N (although I'll be keeping tabs on it).

And it hasn't really "left" and then "come back" - it's kinda just been lingering and I've been treating it pretty regularly with H2O2.

Also, my reservoir's don't smell "foul", but if I haven't treated with H2O2 for a couple of days, there's a definite "aquarium smell" to it, but nothing too vicious.

And as far as your aquarium chiller idea, I think that I've seen that before with the water lines running through it, so I can't think of any reason why it wouldn't work with the air lines coming out of there - I assume it'd just be drilling a hole and sitting the air pumps in there, no?

In any case, appreciate all your help with this crap.

Still thinking E&F is probably how I'm gonna go in a couple of weeks.
 
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