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websluef

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Ok, so now I got my bubbleponic basics down but now I want to tackle the lights and make sure they are sufficient. If any one has any recommendations it would be appreciated. I have a T5 light with 8 bulbs. They are 24 watts each. I have (4) 2700k and (4) 6400k. I just added a 2700k CFL 65 watt bulb. I am running the lights 24/7. I want to add one more of these. Any opinions?
 

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MostlyCrazy

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The lights you have should be sufficient for the whole grow but if you are intent on buying another bulb make it a 2700k. Can't have too much 2700k when you get to flower and you already have the 6400k spectrum covered by the t5's. I like a 60-40 or 70-30 mix of lights. Heavy on the 6400k's during veg and heavy on the 2700k's in flower. You're starting to get what we all get as we grow! More lights, better this, better that! LOL!
 

websluef

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Today I came home couldnt check things out right away did around 9pm.
Humidity 52%
Temp 75
Res Temp 80
PH 6.0
PPM 1000 must have made a mistake somewhere. I am keeping an eye on tips, slight yellowing
Plant drank 1/2 of a gallon.
plant height 14"

Made a gallon of 6.0 water, 4 tsp HP 3%.
PPM 900
All in all plant looks well, except for some yellowing tips which I will keep an eye on.
 

MostlyCrazy

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Too high on the ppm for now. How many wweeks of veg? Does that include any ppm in the water. I keep forgetting details from grow to grow. Yellow tips are usually the first sign of overnuting. Res temp is too high also. Can you get a fan directly aimmed at the res? Is the res sitting on the floor? If so it helps if you raise it off the floor (unless it's a cement basement floor because those are always cool) so the air can flow under the res also. You want that res temp 75 or less. Less is better. Temp and humidity are fine but it wouldn't hurt to raise the humidity up to over 60%. The fact that the plants are drinking is a good sign.
 

MostlyCrazy

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After actually looking at your plant 1000ppm isn't all that bad. Watch those yellow tip and for now if you add any water, make it straight water only. Sort of back it down slowly and see what the plant thinks of it.
 

Roseman

Elite Rolling Society
PPM for Hanna Chart PPM


Seedlings, Early Sprouts 100 to 250

Early Vegging 300 to 400

Full Vegetation 450 to 700

Early Blooming 750 to 950

Full Mature Blooms 1000 to 1600

Note: EC Calculations are different, here's a conversion chart :
heres a great chart that shows how different PPM can be from meter to meter... EC is the only real universal language...




I just got a new more expensive ppm meter, and I had to read the instructions 4 times to figure it out.

It is Hanna, and shows .500 or .5 or half, and has in very small print X 10 next to the reading.

That means I have to re-program it (yea right, 2 more pages of instructions) or read a reading of 220 time half, times ten..so when it says 220 it means half of that (110) times ten = 1100 ppm.

I need a teenager around our hosue, I have a difficult time just setting the clock on the VCR-CD player.
 

websluef

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MC-Yea the ppm's were too high, I saw one large yellow blotch on one of the leaves. I must have made a mistake on the nutes 2 nights(1000) ago because the ppm's were 700-800 and the plant was doing fine. Tonight when I got home it was 900. So I added 1/2 gallon of ph'ed water with no nutes. Now it is back to 700-800. As far as the res temp, it is a cement floor but i have it raised up to reach my lights. I am going to add a small frozen bottle of water to the res. I am presently vegging 7 weeks today. You called the nute problem right on and was going to do the same thing when I got home. It still grew 1" since yesterday and besides the nute issue it looks beautiful.When can I start bloom cycle, I am anxiuos to get bud. I really want to take my time growing 1 large plant and taking my time to learn the process and get to know the plant before I graduate to 4. I think it might be possible to get 2-3 oz from this one snow white seed if its healthly.What do you think!
 

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Roseman-LOL HAHAHA! I hear you on that. I cant even handle the cell phones. I just want to dial and say hello and thats it. The older I get the more I feel like some technologies can kiss my ass! I use the blue truncheon meter. I believe I am supposed to use the ec 500 scale,thats what I have been going by. How possible is it that my tap water doesnt have any nutes in it. I checked it one time and the flashing blue light did not stay on one reading, it was jumping all over the place.
 

websluef

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Today:
Humidity 50%
Temp 77
Res Temp 80
PH 6.5
PPM 900- I made a mistake 2 nights ago. I am keeping an eye on tips, slight yellowing and there is a yellow blotch on one of the leaves.

Plant drank 1/2 of a gallon.
plant height 15" a whole inch in 1 day.

Made a 1/2 gallon of 5.0 water, PH is now 6.0, NO NUTES, 4 tsp HP 3%.
PPM 700-800, like it was 3 days ago
All in all plant looks well, except for some yellowing tips and the yellow blotch on one leaf.

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MostlyCrazy

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She's ready to fire now since she looks very mature and healthy. You will have no problem getting 2-3 oz off her when you are done. She will at least double and may triple in vertical height after you go 12/12 by the time she is done.

Keep working on that res temp and keep that ph below 6.5.

Also, to eliminate or at least help with the normal leaf drop you get when you change to flower nutes, run your veg nutes for the first week or so after you go change to 12/12. I haven;t done it that way in the past myself but Roseman does it and it makes sense to me and I will do it that way this time.
 

Roseman

Elite Rolling Society
MC-Yea the ppm's were too high, I saw one large yellow blotch on one of the leaves. I must have made a mistake on the nutes 2 nights(1000) ago because the ppm's were 700-800 and the plant was doing fine. Tonight when I got home it was 900. So I added 1/2 gallon of ph'ed water with no nutes. Now it is back to 700-800. As far as the res temp, it is a cement floor but i have it raised up to reach my lights. I am going to add a small frozen bottle of water to the res. I am presently vegging 7 weeks today. You called the nute problem right on and was going to do the same thing when I got home. It still grew 1" since yesterday and besides the nute issue it looks beautiful.When can I start bloom cycle, I am anxiuos to get bud. I really want to take my time growing 1 large plant and taking my time to learn the process and get to know the plant before I graduate to 4. I think it might be possible to get 2-3 oz from this one snow white seed if its healthly.What do you think!

over -feeding or nute burn shows on the TIPS (ends) of the leaves.

When I throw in a quart of water with some pH DOWN in it, or a Quart of water with some nutes in it, what ever root it hits first, to give that root the strongest dose, will reflect on a leaf..making a yellow splotch in the middle of the leaf or side of the leaf.
Nothing to worry about.

and more experienced growers learn how to get just a little itty bitty tip, like 1/32 inch of a tip yellow and still be safe and still be growing and NOT have serious harmful nute born..
 

Roseman

Elite Rolling Society
Roseman-LOL HAHAHA! I hear you on that. I cant even handle the cell phones. I just want to dial and say hello and thats it. The older I get the more I feel like some technologies can kiss my ass! I use the blue truncheon meter. I believe I am supposed to use the ec 500 scale,thats what I have been going by. How possible is it that my tap water doesnt have any nutes in it. I checked it one time and the flashing blue light did not stay on one reading, it was jumping all over the place.

my tap water pH and ppm is different everytime I check it.
When I stick my ppm meter in the 1000 ppm calibration solution , my meter says 200, and I am too stoned to re - do it.
 

websluef

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BUBBLEHEADS know how to grow! We're not Dirt Bags!
We are The BubbleHeads!!!!!

SpongeBob Squarepants grows hydroponically!
He grows in the sea.
He grows with tiny bubbles,
just like you and me!

I love this stuff!



 

websluef

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Today:
Humidity 57%
Temp 75
Res Temp 76-Put two small chunks of ice in.
PH 6.0
PPM 800-900- The tips have a slight more yellowing on the tips.
Plant drank 1/2 of a gallon.
plant height 15-1/2 , 1/2" growth

Made a 1/2 gallon of 6.0 water, PH is now 6.0, NO NUTES, 4 tsp HP 3%.
PPM 700-
All in all plant looks well, I will do a res change tomorrow and then I will start to flower.

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websluef

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Today:
Humidity 65%
Temp 75
Res Temp 76-Put two small chunks of ice in.Temp 72
PH 6.0
PPM 700-800
Plant drank 1/4 of a gallon.
plant height 16 , 1/2" growth

Made a 1/2 gallon of 6.0 water, PH is now 6.0, 3tsp, 4 tsp HP 3%.
PPM 700.
All in all plant looks well except for a partial leaf I burnt with a new 65 watt cfl. I like the cfl's better because they are easier to work with if thats all your using. You can hang 1 or 2 rods and hang multiple cfl's and position the hood in the direction you want the light to go. When you have like a t5 like I do the hood is in the way. I will use the cfl's next time,for now I will stick to the t5
Happy growing!

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websluef

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Weekly Drain and Replinish

OK so today I did the Drain and Replenishment. I switched back to the darker bucket in hopes of lowering my res temp 1 or 2 degrees. I also switched back to my smaller air pump in hopes of lowering it another 1 or 2 degees. Dont know if this will work but worth a try. I cleaned the room while everything was out, sprayed the floor with some insect killer. I did away with the 65 watt cfl because you will see it burnt one of my leaves. It is hard to manuveur. I also covered the basket with a cut out paper plate to minimize light getting in to the res and the roots. I am starting to flower today. Now its getting more fun!
 

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