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budleydoright

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RW is also assuming that he is getting 95% off of the back of the bulb. While the reflective material may be 95% the light being reflected back onto itself results in signifigant lumen loss and the generation of heat. It also causes faster bulb degradation.

So some of us believe the world should be flat and some of us believe otherwise. To me vertical is simply putting the plants were the light is. If I have a hood 24" over the tops, that light is also lighting the walls. No plant there means 0% effeciency.

We can certainly all learn from each other and I picked up alot from RW.
 
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n.dap

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That 5hit. is that a vert growing upside down. i see well i understand the whole dam situation. so pretty much the res you fill it up with how much ever you water you think would be good add your nutes and run the system 24/7....
 
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n.dap said:
That 5hit. is that a vert growing upside down. i see well i understand the whole dam situation. so pretty much the res you fill it up with how much ever you water you think would be good add your nutes and run the system 24/7....
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**so pretty much the res you fill it up with how ever much water you think would be good.
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yes. heath says his res is less then 10gal thats really small compared to the size of the system - another reason for the dam if the pump fails the water would stay contained in the tubes - instead of rushing back into the res - if you are going to use no dam then the water circulating thew the system needs to be able to all rest in the res if pumps fail- to be safe i would do this anyway, no real reason not to have a large res get a 30 - 50 gal res , dam or not, untill you become comfortable with the system
 
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hectorius

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aeroponics is a better way to do wall of green dwc just doest match the growth rate of aero. 4 walls 2 1000w advanced nutes perfect room 7 pounds
 
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n.dap

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thanks that 5hit. thats all i was looking for was the the reason for the dam and the res. now its time to get the money together and start this system going man.

yea id like to see 7 pounds from that aswell...
 
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fatfarmer34

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Nice thread guys, guess I'll join in and make a few of my own observations. First one is, in most vertical grows you would have a single row of plants around the light with a reflective material behind them. In my opinion it would seem to me that it would reflect more lumens back than the same material on a wall reflecting back to several plants deep(I hope that makes some sense), and that would counteract the minimal lumen loss from not using a reflector. Someone made the observation that the light saturation from a vert grow would be less and I don't even know how you can come up with that. If you look at a plant from the top and then from the side, which is the larger profile? clearly it is from the side. And if the concern is the angle of the leafs, well as we all know they will turn towards any light source. I am definitely going to be a PerVert, its just a matter of deciding what will work best for me, but probably going to be an octagon with PVC. I am thinking 6 of the sides will be fixed, with 2 sides moveable for access and 4 tiers with 2 600w lights in a double cool tube. One more thought I would like to share about this type of setup, it is definitely best for a large number of smaller plants(at least the multiple tier type not single tall plants around a light) so for anyone concerned about the law should remember it is a serious federal crime to go over 99 plants. With clones and a system like this it would be easy to exceed that limit. Good luck to all and happy growing!
 
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There is at least 28 mature plants in this room that cannot be much bigger than 4'x4' I want anyone to show me that in the same room flat, and it looks like they are only using 3 sides!
 
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fatfarmer34 said:
Nice thread guys, guess I'll join in and make a few of my own observations. First one is, in most vertical grows you would have a single row of plants around the light with a reflective material behind them. In my opinion it would seem to me that it would reflect more lumens back than the same material on a wall reflecting back to several plants deep(I hope that makes some sense), and that would counteract the minimal lumen loss from not using a reflector. Someone made the observation that the light saturation from a vert grow would be less and I don't even know how you can come up with that. If you look at a plant from the top and then from the side, which is the larger profile? clearly it is from the side. And if the concern is the angle of the leafs, well as we all know they will turn towards any light source. I am definitely going to be a PerVert, its just a matter of deciding what will work best for me, but probably going to be an octagon with PVC. I am thinking 6 of the sides will be fixed, with 2 sides moveable for access and 4 tiers with 2 600w lights in a double cool tube. One more thought I would like to share about this type of setup, it is definitely best for a large number of smaller plants(at least the multiple tier type not single tall plants around a light) so for anyone concerned about the law should remember it is a serious federal crime to go over 99 plants. With clones and a system like this it would be easy to exceed that limit. Good luck to all and happy growing!
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with this system how would you keep it perptual would you do mothers or just harvest the top parts of the plants in the system then reveg

maybe 12-15 plants per side this would keep you under 99 problem
so you could keep like 4 mothers or do the reveg thing if it could work
 
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fatfarmer34

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A few mom's in dirt, 1 tier stocked with clones about every 2 weeks, 8 week cycle. I dont think reveg would work the best, to long for the plants to recover and harder to control the size and keep them even. With larger number of plants in a smaller space, a clone straight into flowering is better.
 
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That 5hit

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fatfarmer34 said:


There is at least 28 mature plants in this room that cannot be much bigger than 4'x4' I want anyone to show me that in the same room flat, and it looks like they are only using 3 sides!
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I want to say they have 4 plants each side and it looks like some type of flood a drain system but im not sure- looks great i going to try to find where i gat that from
 
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That 5hit

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You want to teach gardening to your students
but you do not have much space?

You want to show and experiment
the techniques and methods of hydroponics culture?

You want to demonstrate that VERTICAL CULTURE
is the future of the farming industry?


 
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