will plant flower 18/6?

acepowerz

Well-Known Member
I find that very insulting and whats more i find it ridiculous that you are misinforming people. I seriously dont understand how someone with so may posts can have so little knowlegde. Now, on planet Earth flowering a marijuana plant is impossible under 18/6 (unless ofcourse its autoflowering). Marijuana can and does show preflowers in a vegetative light cycle but as Iv stated countless times it WILL NOT 'flower' aka 'bud out' until a flowering light cycle is induced So maybe you want to catch up on your reading because you sir clearly dont know what your talking about.

Whats more Iv reported this thread to the mods because it really gets to me when people are so adament on info that is INCORRECT.

Good day.

So I guess it is possible I have an auto flowering plant being that it is only 3 weeks old? Still seams a little early for such a young plant. It could be 4 weeks old I havent really kept up with it much.
 

pokesalotasmot

Well-Known Member
Im using dirt from the back yard. It works i had a field outdoors last year. And CFL's I just added a 3rd 23w cfl to it about 5 min ago. Noticed it looked to be showing sex. I have 6x42w and 6x23w for flowering.
Noice. You've got about as many cfls as I'm using right now. 7 40 watters, and about 8 23 watters. Plus, I have about 6 more 23 watters for veg but they're not being used right now. I'm finishing out my bagseed strains, then I'm planning to upgrade/streamline/change around my grow area and I'm lookin to get some good genetics before I start it back up. :blsmoke:
 

monkz

Well-Known Member
Exactly, in that case yes it is not only possibly but will likely happen during their 3rd or 4th week.
Although I have had plants that are not autoflowering show sex at 4 weeks.
 

ahighyak

Member
Im using dirt from the back yard. It works i had a field outdoors last year. And CFL's I just added a 3rd 23w cfl to it about 5 min ago. Noticed it looked to be showing sex. I have 6x42w and 6x23w for flowering.
that sounds alot like the grow i had going a little while ago
 

LUDACRIS

New Member
I find that very insulting and whats more i find it ridiculous that you are misinforming people. I seriously dont understand how someone with so may posts can have so little knowlegde. Now, on planet Earth flowering a marijuana plant is impossible under 18/6 (unless ofcourse its autoflowering). Marijuana can and does show preflowers in a vegetative light cycle but as Iv stated countless times it WILL NOT 'flower' aka 'bud out' until a flowering light cycle is induced So maybe you want to catch up on your reading because you sir clearly dont know what your talking about.

Whats more Iv reported this thread to the mods because it really gets to me when people are so adament on info that is INCORRECT.

Good day.
what did you report me for telling the truth :lol:.

LUDA.
CANNABIS LIFE CYCLE


Marijuana plants may belong to any one of a number of varieties which follow somewhat different growth patterns. The following outline describes the more common form of growth. Differences between varieties can be thought of as variations on this standard theme.
Cannabis is an annual plant. A single season completes a generation, leaving all hope for the future to the seeds. The normal life cycle follows the general pattern described below.
Germination
With winter past, the moisture and warmth of spring stir activity in the embryo. Water is absorbed and the embryo's tissues swell and grow, splitting the seed along its suture. The radical or embryonic root appears first. Once clear of the seed, the root directs growth downward in response to gravity. Meanwhile, the seed is being lifted upward by growing cells which form the seedling's stem. Now anchored by the roots, and receiving water and nutrients, the embryonic leaves (cotyledons) unfold. They are a pair of small, somewhat oval, simple leaves, now green with chlorophyll to absorb the life-giving light. Germination is complete. The embryo has been reborn and is now a seedling living on the food it produces through photosynthesis. The process of germination is usually completed in three to 10 days.
Seedling
The second pair of leaves begins the seedling stage. They are set opposite each other and usually have a single blade. They differ from the embryonic leaves by their larger size, spearhead shape, and serrated margins. With the next pair of leaves that appears, usually each leaf has three blades and is larger still. A basic pattern has been set. Each new set of leaves will be larger, with a higher number of blades per leaf until, depending on variety, they reach their maximum number, often nine or 11. The seedling stage is completed within four to six weeks.
Vegetative Growth
This is the period of maximum growth. The plant can grow no faster than the rate that its leaves can produce energy for new growth. Each day more leaf tissue is created, increasing the overall capacity for growth. With excellent growing conditions, Cannabis has been known to grow six inches a day, although the rate is more commonly one to two inches. The number of blades on each leaf begins to decline during the middle of the vegetative stage. Then the arrangement of the leaves on the stem (phyllotaxy) changes from the usual opposite to alternate. The internodes (stem space from one pair of leaves to the next, which had been increasing in length) begin to decrease, and the growth appears to be thicker. Branches which appeared in the axils of each set of leaves grow and shape the plant to its characteristic form. The vegetative stage is usually completed in the third to fifth months of growth.
Preflowering
This is a quiescent period of one to two weeks during which growth slows considerably. The plant is beginning a new program of growth as encoded in its genes. The old system is turned off and the new program beings with the appearance of the first flowers.
Flowering
Cannabis is dioecious: each plant produces either male or female flowers, and is considered either a male or female plant. Male plants usually start to flowers about one month before the female; however, there is sufficient overlap to ensure pollination. First the upper internodes elongate; in a few days the male flowers appear. The male flowers are quite small, about 1/4 inch, and are pale green, yellow, or red/purple. They develop in dense, drooping clusters (cymes) capable of releasing clouds of pollen dust. Once pollen falls, males lose vigour and soon die.
The female flowers consists of two small (1/4 to 1/2 inch long), fuzzy white stigmas raised in a V sign and attached at the base to an ovule which is contained in a tiny green pod. The pod is formed from modified leaves (bracts and bracteoles) which envelop the developing seed. The female flowers develop tightly together to form dense clusters (racemes) or buds, cones, or colas (in this book, buds). The bloom continues until pollen reaches the flowers, fertilising them and beginning the formation of seeds. Flowering usually lasts about one or two months, but may continue longer when the plants are not pollinated and there is no killing frost.
Seed Set
A fertilised female flower develops a single seed wrapped in the bracts. In thick clusters, they form the seed-filled buds that make up most fine imported marijuana. After pollination, mature, viable seeds take from 10 days to five weeks to develop. When seeds are desired, the plant is harvested when enough seeds have reached full colour. For a fully-seeded plant this often takes place when the plant has stopped growth and is, in fact, dying. During flowering and seed set, various colours may appear. All the plant's energy goes to reproduction and the continuance of its kind. Minerals and nutrients flow from the leaves to the seeds, and the chlorophylls that give the plant its green colour disintegrate. The golds, browns, and reds which appear are from accessory pigments that formerly had been masked by chlorophyll.

LUDACRIS.
:-P
 

monkz

Well-Known Member
That post proves you wrong my friend, you keep saying that a plant will flower in a vegatative light cycle... that info from the FAQ page shows otherwise. Pre-flowers or pre-flowering is different to having your plant 'flower'.
Which is exactly what I have been saying from the start, so no I didnt report you for telling the truth, I reported you for misinforming other growers.
 

LUDACRIS

New Member
That post proves you wrong my friend, you keep saying that a plant will flower in a vegatative light cycle... that post shows otherwise. Pre-flowers or pre-flowering is different to having your plant 'flower'.
Which is exactly what I have been saying from the start, so no I didnt report you for telling the truth, I reported you for misinforming other growers.

yes that will work.
just report me again.
just tell them i dont know anything or nothing and just talk B.S.
(good luck).
 

monkz

Well-Known Member
Seriously tho man do you actually read what your typing and then whats typed back to you?
Or do you just type things at random? Because your acting like a child... I hope many people see this because it will just prove how wrong you are.
 

monkz

Well-Known Member
i shall now re-direct you all to the last page of another thread where this discussion is finished and yours truly is proven right:D
also Ludacris made fun of my 5day old seedlings for... looking ike seedlings lol...
but also look at the first page of the thread where his plants are 6weeks old and only have 2 nodes lol

https://www.rollitup.org/showthread.php?t=120799&page=16
 

LUDACRIS

New Member
sorry but not interested in anything you have to say as i am far to busy helping newbs instead of dissing them like you did by saying you will never help newbs because you are better than that and i told you thats where you belong you are just creating trouble for yourself and showing yourself up and thats the actions of a kid and i dont play with kids.
you were proved wrong i got rep for my posts on this thread so leave me alone and stalk somebody else.
you seem fixated on making yourself look like a fool.
but stalk as you will because you LOST and are trying to fight back but keep punching yourself in the head.
you will never beat or bother LUDA so keep trying if thats you game but its a game you will never win.
(good luck in trying).

LUDA.
:lol:
 

FoxCompany426

Well-Known Member
yes it will start to flower under 18/6 when the plant is sexually mature.

LUDA.
:weed:
You're wrong, plain and simple.

There are plenty of threads that show growers keeping mothers under an 18/6 schedule for more than a year...

Try and keep the misinformation to a minimal, please...

:bigjoint:
 

LUDACRIS

New Member
You're wrong, plain and simple.

There are plenty of threads that show growers keeping mothers under an 18/6 schedule for more than a year...

Try and keep the misinformation to a minimal, please...

:bigjoint:

no i am right if you can read the document i posted.
and its not misinformation its FACT :lol:
 

doc111

Well-Known Member
I thought this had been resolved. WTF? We have established that under rare circumstances a plant kept in veg for a LONG time may flower spontaneously without being put into 12/12. We also established that certain strains will flower when given more light instead of less light. We've also established that 12/12 is what's needed to induce flowering for 99% of strains being sold by seedbanks. This is ridiculous!:roll:
 

FoxCompany426

Well-Known Member
I thought this had been resolved. WTF? We have established that under rare circumstances a plant kept in veg for a LONG time may flower spontaneously without being put into 12/12. We also established that certain strains will flower when given more light instead of less light. We've also established that 12/12 is what's needed to induce flowering for 99% of strains being sold by seedbanks. This is ridiculous!:roll:
My bad, didn't see any "resolution" posts...
 

monkz

Well-Known Member
You're wrong, plain and simple.

There are plenty of threads that show growers keeping mothers under an 18/6 schedule for more than a year...

Try and keep the misinformation to a minimal, please...

:bigjoint:
lol even when he's told that he's wrong time and time again, he still wont believe it. Probably too proud to admit that he's wrong, but thanx all for the support.

Monkz
 

LUDACRIS

New Member
Sativa plants are usually found in tropical areas of the world, close to the equator, where the length of day and night is about the same all year round. It is therefore perfectly acceptable to grow tropical sativas under a light regime of 13/11 during vegetative growth and to flower them under 11/13 on/off. Sometimes sativas won’t even flower under 12/12 as it is so close to “home” that they just keep on growing. Sativas take longer to finish flowering than indicas, usually twice as long and sometimes even three times as long. Sativas are generally more tall and lanky than their indica counterparts. They have thin and modestly serrated leafs. Indica leafs on the other hand can be heavily serrated and both species can have very large leafs, sometimes several times larger than your hand.
The sativa buds are also different in appearance to the indica buds. Sativa buds sometimes resemble a fox-tail and are not as tightly packed as indica buds. Getting tight sativa buds really is an art form that requires some practice.
The Cannabis Indica subspecies on the other hand, has adapted to the colder climates and shorter days further up north from the equator. Most indica plants will remain in a vegetative state until the light regime is changed to 12/12, with some variation between strains. Some early maturing indica strains will flower under 18/6, lights on/off. Indicas have thicker and broader, more prominently serrated leafs than their sativa counter parts and the buds are usually more compact, sometimes even rock hard. They stay shorter and grow wider than sativas, often branching out heavily with frequent nodes (bud sites).

Sativa plants pack a more racy, cerebral and creative high compared the sedating, body stone effect that you get from smoking indica plants. The high can be very strong in both cases although the experience might be different. Some growers prefer the cerebral high but it can sometimes make you a bit paranoid and raise your pulse, so others prefer to get stoned because the experience is more gentle on the mind.

Some commercial strains like Lowryder carry Ruderalis genes which means that they can be grown outdoors in arctic regions of the world since they will flower regardless of the photoperiod. They are also a valid choice for indoor grows where height is an issue, because these plants are cannabis dwarfs and only grow so big. There are mixed opinions regarding these auto-flowering plants but personally I find them to be an interesting addition to the spectrum of cannabis strains that are commercially available today.

It is more difficult to grow sativas because of the way they behave but once you learn how to grow them properly, growing indicas becomes a breeze. Indicas have a more predictable growth pattern, they can be kept quite low and do not stretch as much as sativas. The closer you get to a pure sativa, the more trouble you are looking at. Sativa plants also seem to have less distinction between the vegetative and flowering stage compared to indica plants, which means that they might continue growing in height even when the light schedule is reduced to 12/12. This also means that they are more difficult to control in the indoor environment. Often a good 50/50 mix will have the best of both worlds in terms of easiness and potency.


LUDA.
 

LUDACRIS

New Member
I thought this had been resolved. WTF? We have established that under rare circumstances a plant kept in veg for a LONG time may flower spontaneously without being put into 12/12. We also established that certain strains will flower when given more light instead of less light. We've also established that 12/12 is what's needed to induce flowering for 99% of strains being sold by seedbanks. This is ridiculous!:roll:
thank you doc.
i have proved my point and i wont keep drilling in to people who cant understand the basics of flower biology.

LUDA.
;-)
 
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