multiple lights versus single light

sir rance alot

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I have a 2ft. x 5ft. room. I currently have 3 150 watt HPS lights spread evenly under a custom hood. Is this the same output as having a single 400 watt? Does anyone know if lumens output is greater from a single high wattage bulb opposed to having several smaller bulbs that add up to the same wattage assuming all other variables are correct.
 

1mikej

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more lights is better than 1 light, better penatration and less shadowing. i think a 4oo watt is more eficient than 3 150 watt bulbs but you have 50 more watts so you should be fine. i used 4 150 watt mh security lights from home depot to light a closet that was 7w x 2d x 8h and they where as good ass the ones i grow under a 400watt hps/mh.
 

sunahura

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I have a 2ft. x 5ft. room. I currently have 3 150 watt HPS lights spread evenly under a custom hood. Is this the same output as having a single 400 watt? Does anyone know if lumens output is greater from a single high wattage bulb opposed to having several smaller bulbs that add up to the same wattage assuming all other variables are correct.
I think u lose lumens
50 hps = 4000

70 hps = 8000

150 hps = 16,000 lumens

400 hps = 50,000

1000hps = 150,000
 

sir rance alot

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thanks for the replies guys. I did install 4 - 40watt grolux flourescent tubes along the back wall as well. Hope this can make up the difference in lumens Im losing.
 

sir rance alot

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Also, I was wondering if the flourescents will help a little on the upper end of the Kelvin range. I have two that are 5000k and two that are 3500k.
 

IAm5toned

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I think u lose lumens
50 hps = 4000

70 hps = 8000

150 hps = 16,000 lumens

400 hps = 50,000

1000hps = 150,000

THREE 150w HPS = 48,000 lumen

he is gaining lumens but losing penetration... his setup is ideal for a scrog or sog, but not ideal for FIM or topping
 

sunahura

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Also, I was wondering if the flourescents will help a little on the upper end of the Kelvin range. I have two that are 5000k and two that are 3500k.
Yeah, I'm a believer in mixed lighting, because that balance is the most important thing to overall natural quality.

The herb I grow is smooth and tasty, organic,and people come back, and back, although I will be doing a chemical grow soon, I got to get my weight up.;-)
 

sir rance alot

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would I benefit from adding more flourescents in between all the plants? I have an 8 bucket setup and I could easily get 4 tubes in the middle of the room to assist the ones I have on the walls.
 

ledgrowing

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get cool white tubes to of set the red from the hps if u have full spec ligting in flower room you will get a more natural bud with better weight and more sugar
 

T.H.Cammo

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Loosing a few lumens per watt to a single, larger, HID bulb shouldn't be your primary concern. Everyone looses much more light energy to the actual distance the light has to travel (from source to plant). That's not just my idea - it's the law! It's the "Inverse Square Law of the Propogation of Light". It's Physics, Google it! Plainly stated, it dictates that each time the "Light Distance" is doubled, it's energy is reduced to 1/4. In other words - if the distance is reduced by half, you get 4 times the energy to your plants! To demonstrate what this means, let's assume the OP's 2'x5' space, let's also assume that the lights are mounted across the 2' dimension (perpendicular to the 5' sides).

Think about how far the light has to travel from a single source to reach the outside edge of your grow (in our case that's about 30").

Now think about 3 smaller lights that are truely equal spaced (for even output), that's one in the middle and one about 10" from each end. With this setup, the farthest any light has to travel is about 10".

So, what have we got?
Single big light = 30"
3 smaller lights = 10"
I'm no mathimatician, but I would say that the multiple smaller lights would retain at least 4 times as much of thier energy (probably 6 times as much), as the single big light!

So, it's not so much about which light you start with; as it is how far that light has to travel!

Multiple, smaller, lights are better for a number of reasons! But "The Inverse Square Law" is probably the one that is overlooked the most. Half the distance - 4 times the power -YEAH!

This example goes to illustrate effciency, economy and "even light coverage" for the whole grow. The fact is, "that one plant" (right under the big light) will recieve more intense light energy (at the peril of the majority of the grow).
 

1mikej

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yes, more light always good, use 50k for vegging and the 35k for when you flowering. mixing light is good but lean in 1 direction or the other depending on what stage your in.
 
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