Left = Misery

RickWhite

Well-Known Member
I just love it when the Libs show up and are rendered so speechless by the topic that they just start tossing in kitchen sink insults. One moron had to resort to posting part of a discussion from a weeks old thread. Is that not pathetic?

This particular retard is asking for truth tables which are a tool of formal logic to demonstrate what a straw man is. He is so retarded that he doesn't know the concept of the straw man is one of informal logic as opposed to formal logic that involves truth tables. All this comes from the guy's misunderstanding of what a straw man is in a thread from many weeks ago. I can't remember his retarded definition.

Anyway, it is funny how pathetic the Liberals are in their ability to address issues head on. Like this person who just makes a bunch of clearly false statements.

And conservatives are more likely to be extremely religious and prone to conspericy theories. And conservatives are only happy if they are insulated inside their little bubble where no one different can come too close and as long as their ideals are not challenged... and if they don't have to take any post secondary education.

Strange, I know a great deal of college educated, professional, non-religious Conservatives and none believe in conspiracy theories. In fact, I am one of them, and I certainly don't have to worry about my ideas being challenged by the likes of this person. The responses to my OP pretty much prove that.
 
Informal logic is a soft science that is not accepted unanimously as real logic, and instead as theoretical.... This might be because it is complete crap.

As to the straw man fallacy applying to formal logic?? you may need to check on that again.

I am also not a liberal, more of a moderate.

I posted the quote from another post to high light the fact that you do not feel it is necessary to validate your conclusion with relevant evidence. Everyone reading this can take that for what it is.

Whats Fonzi?:fire:
 

RickWhite

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Informal logic is a soft science that is not accepted unanimously as real logic, and instead as theoretical.... This might be because it is complete crap.

As to the straw man fallacy applying to formal logic?? you may need to check on that again.

I am also not a liberal, more of a moderate.

I posted the quote from another post to high light the fact that you do not feel it is necessary to validate your conclusion with relevant evidence. Everyone reading this can take that for what it is.

Whats Fonzi?:fire:
Now you are just lying. In that particular thread I called your argument a straw man and explained why. You offered your own definition of what a straw man was. I posted a few definitions from various on line sources. Several people told you I was right and you were wrong. You asked for a truth table which is not used to determine if something is a straw man. You clearly don't understand what truth tables are and you clearly have never studied logic.

If you want me to validate my statements made in the OP of this thread, I direct you to the numerous threads in this forum that demonstrate my points perfectly.

If you need the evidence sent to a lab where it can be scientifically qualified, I admit I can't do that.
 

Dreadscale

Well-Known Member
If one reads the threads in this forum one thing becomes evident. That people on the Left are miserable.

Just about every opinion that comes from those on the Left is some form of complaint, gripe, grievance, beef or hatred.

I have seen few if any threads started by Conservatives about people they hate. But, about every other thread from the Left is about someone they hate. There are probably a dozen threads about hatred of Glenn Beck alone.

And when they are not talking about people they hate, they are bitching about how unfair life is, how corrupt our Government is and how much the World oppresses them and exploits them.

Nobody on the Left ever has anything good to say about America, American prosperity, capitalism or about society in general. Nobody on the Left talks about anything in a positive light or is able to discuss their own success. Nobody on the Left takes credit or responsibility for anything. Instead they only discuss their failures and why these failures are everyone's fault but theirs.

Almost invariably, the conversations here consist of people on the Right defending America, our prosperity, capitalism and our society in general. People on the Right typically wind up taking the positive side of just about every discussion with the Left taking the negative.

Just about everything discussed becomes an issue of the Left claiming that nobody can succeed and the Right arguing that most people can if they try hard.

I for one find it much more productive to have a positive attitude than a negative one. Perhaps the reason Liberals seem to have so much difficulty in their lives has less to do with them being oppressed and exploited and more to do with their self limiting beliefs. Misery seldom brings about happiness.

Just a little something to think about.
This thread should be posted in fiction not politics !!!

"Just about every opinion that comes from those on the Left is some form of complaint, gripe, grievance, beef or hatred."
I think this must be backwards day!!
It may also be guilt projection.
I see far more hatred from the right not to mention the fear mongering.

"Almost invariably, the conversations here consist of people on the Right defending America, our prosperity, capitalism and our society in general. People on the Right typically wind up taking the positive side of just about every discussion with the Left taking the negative."
Why do you feel the right needs to defend America?
Is there something wrong in the way this country has been heading?
It's obvious the U.S. has problems, they don't need defended they need fixed.
The economy is slowly getting better and this is due to the Liberals actually trying to fix it.
We have spent the past 8 or so years doing nothing at home to help a failing economy, we were spending all our time and money "Defending America".

The right still makes no attempt to help fix our problems, just stall and block legislation.

"Perhaps the reason Liberals seem to have so much difficulty in their lives has less to do with them being oppressed and exploited and more to do with their self limiting beliefs."
I don't believe difficulty in life is a liberal or conservative issue.
What are these self limiting beliefs you speak of?
Who is doing the exploiting and oppressing?

Myself, I am not miserable!!
I feel no hatred toward people because of their beliefs.

I think what you are mislabeling as misery is really concern!!
 
Now you are just lying. In that particular thread I called your argument a straw man and explained why. You offered your own definition of what a straw man was. I posted a few definitions from various on line sources. Several people told you I was right and you were wrong. You asked for a truth table which is not used to determine if something is a straw man. You clearly don't understand what truth tables are and you clearly have never studied logic.

If you want me to validate my statements made in the OP of this thread, I direct you to the numerous threads in this forum that demonstrate my points perfectly.

If you need the evidence sent to a lab where it can be scientifically qualified, I admit I can't do that.
I know that not a person here is going to, but look at the thread "arguing with leftist". In this thread rick is upset about always losing arguments due to the fact that his opposition asks him to actually support his conclusions with more than just vague statements like, "look all over this board"

Originally Posted by RickWhite
Sounds like you are retarded.

Are millions of Jews and Christians at war with America? Have Buddhists been committing dozens of terror attacks on Americans? No, that would be Muslims. That is the difference. Man, do you really need this explained to you? Pull your head out of your ass.


Millions Muslims? since your already pulling facts out of your ass you ought to pull your head out of there while you are at it!

dont be such a bigot rick.
 

punker

Well-Known Member
i know that not a person here is going to, but look at the thread "arguing with leftist". In this thread rick is upset about always losing arguments due to the fact that his opposition asks him to actually support his conclusions with more than just vague statements like, "look all over this board"

originally posted by rickwhite
sounds like you are retarded.

Are millions of jews and christians at war with america? Have buddhists been committing dozens of terror attacks on americans? No, that would be muslims. That is the difference. Man, do you really need this explained to you? Pull your head out of your ass.


millions muslims? Since your already pulling facts out of your ass you ought to pull your head out of there while you are at it!

Dont be such a bigot rick.
pwned - double pwned
 

medicineman

New Member
As usual, the conservatives started a hate thread then poured fuel on the fire. This the perfect example of their agenda, divide and conquer. Throw shit at every Idea different than theirs and never, never take time to digest the opposing views to see if maybe, just maybe, there really might be some validity to them.
 

ViRedd

New Member
As usual, the conservatives started a hate thread then poured fuel on the fire. This the perfect example of their agenda, divide and conquer. Throw shit at every Idea different than theirs and never, never take time to digest the opposing views to see if maybe, just maybe, there really might be some validity to them.
You're a fine one to be throwing out accusations concerning hate, Med-'O-Mao. Roughly 90% of your posts are nothing but hate. The other 10% have no concrete ideas other than how great Marxist ideology is ... even though Marxism has been proven an abject failure in every society in which it has been tried.

By the way, how come you're not posting pictures of flagged drapped coffins returning from Afganistan?
 
You're a fine one to be throwing out accusations concerning hate, Med-'O-Mao. Roughly 90% of your posts are nothing but hate. The other 10% have no concrete ideas other than how great Marxist ideology is ... even though Marxism has been proven an abject failure in every society in which it has been tried.

By the way, how come you're not posting pictures of flagged drapped coffins returning from Afganistan?
You're a fine one to be throwing out accusations concerning hate, Vi(diot). Roughly 90% of your posts are nothing but hate.

Elaborate on all these failed marxist society.

And wouldnt you agree with me that socioeconomic gap is widening and that the majority of wealth in our country is going to shrinking group of elitist?
 

OregonMeds

Well-Known Member
Hahaha i can't count the number of posts spewing hate for Obama or universal health care or nancy Pelosi etc, the number of hateful avitars alone could have choked a horse there for a while until I guess enough of you got tired of looking at that stuff and changed them.

And this very thread is mainly only spewing hate itself, lumping people into way overgeneralized and simplified categories and belittling their age or maturity.

Good for you man, follow the party line tactics and know your shit never stinks.
 
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Illegal Smile

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Hahaha i can't count the number of posts spewing hate for Obama or universal health care or nancy Pelosi etc, the number of hateful avitars alone could have choked a horse there for a while until I guess enough of you got tired of looking at that stuff and changed them.

And this very thread is mainly only spewing hate itself, lumping people into way overgeneralized and simplified categories and belittling their age or maturity.

Good for you man, follow the party line tactics and know your shit never stinks.
I don't think you can find one post that spews hate for universal healthcare. I don't know any conservatives who believe anyone should go without healthcare. Socialized medicine? Hate it. Public option? Hate it. Obamacare? Hate it. Universal healthcare? We should have it and I think we have it now. The problem is the cost structure.
 

Wordz

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I don't think you can find one post that spews hate for universal healthcare. I don't know any conservatives who believe anyone should go without healthcare. Socialized medicine? Hate it. Public option? Hate it. Obamacare? Hate it. Universal healthcare? We should have it and I think we have it now. The problem is the cost structure.
you think we have universal healthcare now? Do you smoke alot of pcp?
 
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Illegal Smile

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No, universal healthcare means no-one in the US, even the street people, are dying for lack of care. One homeless man in Houston detailed how he racked up over a quarter million dollars in costs in one year. Whenever he wanted a place to stay and a mean, he would feign chest pains to passersby who would call 911. The ambulance crews all knew him well. They had to take him and the hospital had to admit him.

So I say we do have a form of universal heathcare, but it is not cost effective. Obama wants to replace it with something even less cost-effective.
 

Leothwyn

Well-Known Member
Wow, a thread complaining about people who complain, by a guy who's angry at people who are too angry.


 

RickWhite

Well-Known Member
The most obvious thing about this thread is that nobody has made even so much as a token effort to actually refute anything I said in the original post.

Can anyone refute the fact that there are a multitude of threads started by Liberals about who they hate?

Can anyone point out similar threads by Conservatives? How many threads have titles containing the names of Left wing pundits?

How many threads are started about the bias of Left wing news organizations? We all know there are dozens that bash Fox - where are the ones bashing CBS?

Of course there are threads bashing the policies of the Obama administration, but few bash the man himself. And I bet there are 5 anti-Bush threads for every anti-Obama thread.

How many Conservatives start threads about how "the man" keeps them down or about how unfair life is?

How many Conservative threads bash organized religion and other aspects of traditional America?

Is it just a coincidence that Liberals instinctively defend anti-American people such as Che Guevara, Hugo Chavez and radical Muslims while Conservatives nearly always oppose the aforementioned and align with pro-American people?

I could ask these questions all day, but we already know the answers. Liberals nearly always take an anti-American, anti-Capitalism, negative stance while Conservatives nearly always take the opposite.

If I am wrong, nut up and give some examples.
 
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