Oh Goodie! ... More on 911 (inside job) :)

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Katatawnic

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Just received a "Breaking News" email alert from washingtonpost.com about ten minutes ago... I'm sure this will receive a mixed reaction. :mrgreen:

An administration official said Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and four other Guantanamo Bay detainees will be sent to New York to face trial in a civilian federal court. Mohammed and four alleged co-conspirators in the 9/11 plot had been facing capital charges in a military commission at Guantanamo Bay. The closely-held decision has been the subject of intense speculation, and represents a milestone moment in the Obama administration's quest to close the military detention center on the southeastern tip of Cuba.
 

TheBlazehero

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one thing i think we can all agree on is that we as Americans need to be more informed about what the hell is going on in government and how it affects our lives. it seems kind of strange to me that we have such great and abundant resources and can still have all of these problems and crisis.
 

GrowRebel

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Just received a "Breaking News" email alert from washingtonpost.com about ten minutes ago... I'm sure this will receive a mixed reaction.
Well we will have to keep an eye on this one. I highly doubt they will let this go to court. Their lawyers would probably easily prove that they were tortured and the war criminals don't want that to get out. So let see if they do put them on trial where the public can see.:fire:
one thing i think we can all agree on is that we as Americans need to be more informed about what the hell is going on in government and how it affects our lives. it seems kind of strange to me that we have such great and abundant resources and can still have all of these problems and crisis.
:clap:Thank the elite war criminals for that. We need to get rid of them all.:wall:
 

GrowRebel

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http://obamboozled.blogspot.com/2009/11/boehner-911-show-trial-irresponsible.htmlBoehner: 9/11 Show Trial an “Irresponsible Decision”
Boehner and the Republicans want to make sure you never know if suspected terrorists are guilty or merely pawns in the neocon GWOT. In May, the U.S. House Republicans introduced H.R. 2294, the Keep Terrorists Out of America Act, which would block the transfer or release of the Guantanamo Bay terrorists into the United States. Boehner introduced the bill.
Maybe Boehner will introduce a Make Sure Suspected Terrorists Never Get a Fair Trial bill soon.
At any rate, Obama’s ploy to bring suspected terrorists to the United States and put them on trial is a parlor trick. If the Democrats manage to pull off their public trial ruse, KSM and crew will certainly not get a fair shake.


They know they can't take the chance of a ... just what boehner said "show trial" ... it could get out of hand and some of the truth could come out and they simply can't have that. The actions of congress alone gives clear indication they what to hide what really happen that day. Folk that can't see that need a cane ... :sleep:Now watch this story carefully, because my guess is ... there will be no "show trial".:!:



 

GrowRebel

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http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/11/14/faa-and-norad-changed-records-to-accord-with-cheney-lies/FAA and NORAD Changed Records to Accord with Cheney Lies
A senior Counsel for the 9/11 Commission, John Farmer, has written a book exposing the degree to which our response to 9/11 was disorganized and and outdated–geared to respond to an attack from Russia rather than from terrorists. Most significantly, Farmer reveals that FAA and NORAD altered their chronologies of the day only after a briefing at the White House.
Perhaps nothing perturbs Farmer more than the contention that high-ranking officials responded quickly and effectively to the revelation that Qaeda attacks were taking place. Nothing, Farmer indicates, could be further from the truth: President George W. Bush and other officials were mostly irrelevant during the hijackings; instead, it was the ground-level commanders who made operational decisions in an ad hoc fashion.
Nuff said ... :fire:
 
This guy is a pathetic socialist. Trying to convince America to get rid of freedom and give themselves to the government to take care of them. Funny isn't it that everything the government has ever brought us has been over priced and inefficient. we now want them to dictate our health? Hmm sounds like a disaster looking for a place to happen.
But after all we did let them steal our kids future by letting our government bailout their financiers at Goldman sach's and Chase.
 

GrowRebel

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More on 911 ...
http://www.bushstole04.com/911/pentagon_c_ring_exit_hole.htmPentagon C Ring Exit Hole Mystery
A great deal has been written about the damage to the Pentagon on 9/11. The focus of this discussion is on the mysterious, and officially unexplained, “C-Ring Exit Hole”. The C-ring exit hole is significant because it is not consistent with building damage from a Boeing 757 impact. The C-Ring exit hole carries a unique signature, which can only be explained by something other than a 757 impact. No explanation is offered for this hole in the Pentagon Building Performance Report http://fire.nist.gov/bfrlpubs/build03/PDF/b03017.pdf or the official 9-11 Commission Report.

http://dprogram.net/2009/11/16/cia-paid-millions-of-dollars-to-isi-since-911-report/CIA paid millions of dollars to ISI since 9/11: Report
The CIA has paid millions of dollars to Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) since9/11, accounting for as much as one-third of the foreign spy agency’s annual budget, says a media report.
The ISI also collected “tens of millions of dollars through a classified CIA programme”, which pays for the capture or killing of wanted militants, the Los Angeles Times reported on Monday citing current and former US officials.
An intense debate has been triggered within the US government due to “long-standing suspicions that the ISI continues to help Taliban extremists who undermine US efforts in Afghanistan and provide sanctuary to al-Qaida members in Pakistan”.
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In other words, the CIA contracted with ISI to provide the enemies the US Government needs to justify their wars of conquest.


http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=a100701stolen#a100701stolenOctober 7, 2001: Stolen 9/11 Documents Appear in Mysterious Circumstances

On this day, Zeljko E., a Kosovar Serb, enters a Hamburg, Germany, police station and says he wants to turn himself in. He tells the police that he has robbed a business and stolen piles of paper written in Arabic, with the hopes of selling them. A friend of his told him that they relate to the 9/11 attacks. The 44 pounds of papers are translated and they prove to be a “treasure trove.” The documents come from Mamoun Darkazanli’s files, which were not in Darkazanli’s apartment when police raided it two days after 9/11. “It makes for a great story. A petty thief pilfers files containing critical information about the largest terrorist attack in history and dutifully turns them over to the police.


http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2009/11/15/the-trial-of-the-century/Justin Raimondo gets an ass kicking from readers for tap dancing around 9/11 Truth.

I am referring to the readers' comments to a recent Raimondo column at antiwar.com, The Trial of the Century and the Long Shadow of 9/11
To view the comments, click on link above and go to the Raimondo article and then scroll down to the bottom of the page and click on where it says, "CLICK to DISCUSS THIS ARTICLE" in large text to see viewers comments or to leave comments of your own

http://www.viewzone.com/whitevan.htmlIsraeli Owned Moving Van Photographed on 9/11/2001
[Edited]
officer: with a mural painted uh airplane diving into New York blowing up. Two men got outta the truck ran away from it, we got those two [inaudible] under.
officer: kay great.
officer: [inaudible] are you holding those to guys [inaudible] (kay?)
multiple voices/commotion: [inaudible] f**king beat the shit out of him.
officer: all right listen you need any [inaudible] on those two guys over there? you all right over there kay?
officer: we got both suspects under kay, we have the suspects who drive?drove in the van and that exploded we have both of them under kay let's get some help over here
Mossad Truck Bombs on Sept 11

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http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/card_bush.htmlWhat Did Card Really Whisper to Bush on 9/11?

Chief of Staff Andrew Card states in this recollection of 9/11 that he whispered to President Bush "A second plane hit the second tower. America is under attack".
This wmv video shows Card delivering his message to Bush, and it demonstrates the speed at which he would have had to have to spoken the above words.
It is impossible to whisper at this speed, so why have both he and Bush lied about the content of the message?
Why did the 9/11 Commission ignore this lie?
... and that's the 911 News ... good day and good news:mrgreen::eyesmoke:
:peace:





 

GrowRebel

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:lol:Marry me GR lol
You don't want an old woman ...hell I'm saving up for a walker! ;-)

Thirty Reasons to Doubt the Official Account of 9/11
2) There are scores of accounts of people hearing and/or seeing explosions before and as the towers fell - including explosions in the lobby or basement of both towers.
8) Mayor Giuliani has stated publicly that he was told the first tower was about to collapse. This is extraordinary considering that in the history of high-rise fires there has never been such a collapse.
11) The collapse of WTC 7 was reported by the BBC a half hour before it happened, suggesting that the building's destruction was planned and the news scripted.
18) The FBI's most-wanted list does not mention 9/11 as a crime that Osama bin Laden is sought for. An FBI spokesperson has stated that this is because of no hard evidence.


[FONT=Verdana,Sans-serif]Lawyer: 9/11 defendants want platform for views[/FONT]
The five men facing trial in the Sept. 11 attacks will plead not guilty so that they can air their criticisms of U.S. foreign policy, the lawyer for one of the defendants said Sunday.
Scott Fenstermaker, the lawyer for accused terrorist Ali Abd al-Aziz Ali, said the men would not deny their role in the 2001 attacks but "would explain what happened and why they did it."
Tortured Confessions?
Well this is going to blow the government's game ... according to the CorbettReport the only reason these guys are being trial in the states is because they agreed to enter a guilty plea ... if they are not going to do that watch an see that this trial doesn't happen. The elite are not going to take the risk of being exposed. You heard it here first.:bigjoint:


Richard Gage’s Wellington Presentation Draws Biggest Blueprint For Truth Audience Ever

The Hard Evidence Tour Down Under hit a high note on Saturday afternoon at the Te Papa Museum in Wellington, when over 650 turned up to hear Richard Gage, the spokesperson for Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth, (AE911Truth), talk about what really happened to World Trade Centre (WTC) 1, 2, and 7 on 9/11. It was the largest crowd the architect and founder of AE911Truth has ever spoken to since he began spreading the truth – what he calls the Blueprint For Truth, about the evidence of 9/11, and revealing the buildings were brought down by controlled demolition, not by jet fuel and fires.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/nov/22/lotfi-raissi-secret-files-evidenceSecret files show UK courts were misled over 9/11 suspect Lotfi Raissi

British prosecutors failed to disclose crucial evidence to the courts in the aftermath of the September 11 terrorist attacks in a case that resulted in an innocent pilot being jailed for five months, previously unseen documents reveal.
Anyone that what's to see the truth will see the truth. No justice ... no peace ... :cuss:





 

GrowRebel

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http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20091124044913656AE911Truth's Hard Evidence Down Under Tour 2009 - An Amazing Success!!
The tour kicked off on Wednesday, the Eleventh of November, with a rousing street action in front of the corporate offices of ABC, Australia's national television conglomerate, which happens to be across the street from University of Technology, Sydney. We were able to disseminate information to a significant number of ABC employees, some of whom rather clandestinely asked for our information (although they'd apparently been told to not take our materials, according to one such employee), a few intrepid journalists who showed the courage to stop and talk, and hundreds of passersby. Sydney is a very 'international' city, especially there near the university, and we had very engaging conversations with people from around the world, most of whom were well aware of and distressed by the continuing questions surrounding 9/11. In addition, a substantial conversation was held with a very pleasant, intelligent and supportive engineering professor, which we hope will lead to inroads into the faculty and administration there.

Paid Lying: What Passes for Major Media Journalism
The Paper of Record has a long history of:

-- supporting the powerful;

-- backing corporate interests;

-- endorsing imperial wars;

-- supporting CIA efforts to topple elected governments, assassinate independent leaders, prop up friendly dictators, secretly fund and train paramilitary death squads, practice sophisticated forms of torture, and menace democratic freedoms at home and abroad. For decades, in fact, some Times' foreign correspondents were covert Agency assets. Others today likely are as well as other prominent fourth estate members.

The Times management is also comfortable with:

-- Washington and corporate lawlessness;

-- an unprecedented and growing wealth gap;

-- Wall Street banksters looting the federal treasury;

-- a private banking cartel controlling the nation's money;
 

GrowRebel

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9/11 tragedy pager intercepts
Text pagers are usualy carried by persons operating in an official capacity. Messages in the archive range from Pentagon, FBI, FEMA and New York Police Department exchanges, to computers reporting faults at investment banks inside the World Trade Center

The archive is a completely objective record of the defining moment of our time. We hope that its entrance into the historical record will lead to a nuanced understanding of how this event led to death, opportunism and war.


http://www.smh.com.au/world/utzons-son-signs-up-for-september-11-conspiracy-theory-20091124-jhf7.htmlhttp://www.smh.com.au/world/utzons-son-signs-up-for-september-11-conspiracy-theory-20091124-jhf7.html[URL="http://www.smh.com.au/world/utzons-son-signs-up-for-september-11-conspiracy-theory-20091124-jhf7.html"]Utzon's son signs up for September 11 conspiracy theory
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AS CONSPIRACY theories go, it is up there with the CIA assassination of president John Kennedy and the faked moon landings. The terrorist attacks on the World Trade Centre on September 11, 2001, have spawned a cottage industry devoted to questioning whether they were the work of al-Qaeda and hinting that it was ''an inside job''. Now a lead figure in the self-described ''9/11 truth movement'', an American architect, Richard Gage, has revealed one of its most high-profile adherents to date: Jan Utzon, son of the world-famous designer of the Sydney Opera House, Joern Utzon.
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As you can tell from the condescending tone and the inevitable reference to the claim that the Apollo Moon landings were faked, the Australian media treats 9-11 pretty much the way the American media does; the government's feces are not odoriferous and the doubters and just kooks.
However, the significance of this story is that the Australian media, which for 8 years has not even mentioned that there is another opinion about 9-11, is finally having to acknowledge (and attempt to refute) that there is another point of view about all this.
The so called fake moon landing is no where near the Kennedy assassination or the false flag 911 attack ...



http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=16269http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=16269[URL="http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=16269"]Khalid Sheikh Mohammed’s trial will convict us all
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It took Hitler a while to corrupt the German courts. Hitler first had to create new courts, like President George W. Bush’s military tribunals, that did not require evidence, using in place of evidence hearsay, secret charges, and self-incrimination obtained by torture.
Every American should be concerned that the Obama administration has decided to use Mohammed’s trial to complete the corruption of the American court system. When Mohammed’s trial is over, an American Joe Stalin or Adolf Hitler will be able to convict America’s Founding Fathers on charges of treason and terrorism. No one will be safe.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4Wt-ZqNLr0&feature=player_embeddedhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4Wt-ZqNLr0&feature=player_embeddedThe Questions - Charlie Sheen's 20 minutes with the President (9/11 Questions for Obama)

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The Questions ...
*Why has the US department of justice not charged Osama Bin Laden for 911?
FBI response ... "We don't have enough evidence."


*When did Osama Bin Laden stop working for the CIA?


*How did WTC 7 fall at freefall speed?


*How did the BBC obtain advanced knowledge of the WTC 7 collapse?



*How does a hijacker's passport survived unscathed?


*What unidentified planes where flying on 911?


*Why didn't bush and cheney testify separately in public or under oath?
Anyone with eyes, a brain who are not afraid to use them will see something is rotten in Washington. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this out.


I hope all of you have a safe and Happy Thanksgiving ... smoke em if you got em ... :peace:




 

Hayduke

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The Charlie Sheen video is excellent...though a little scary if you are not 100% convinced of the false flag...:-(

At least the skies have been clear for a week or two...;-)

:leaf::peace::leaf:
 

NoDrama

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The mind is repulsed by the fact that such an Evil atrocity was committed and the truth hidden from us all.

Your government did this to you. Are you just going to take it laying down?
 

Hayduke

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The mind is repulsed by the fact that such an Evil atrocity was committed and the truth hidden from us all.

Your government did this to you. Are you just going to take it laying down?
My plan all along has been to hide in the woods....not sure how that's gonna work since there is supposedly a FEMA camp 20 miles away:-(

:leaf::peace::leaf:
 

NoDrama

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I wonder what percent of the population is under the assumption that government lies to us all the time. Its like watching Mad Money with Jim Cramer. If in the last 2 years you did the exact opposite of what he suggested doing you would have made 180% profit. By following his advice you would have lost 95% of everything. When the Gubbermint tells you that the economy is on the mend, lies. When they say that the recession will be over by the first quarter 2010, lies. When they say unemployment is at 10.25%, lies, more like 18-20%. Only the midwest has any employment numbers that aren't in the shitter.
 

Hayduke

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Unemployment is down = More people have exhausted their benefits than new filers...

Fewer Job layoffs = running out of people to lay off

No need for mammogram until 50 = get one when your 30

:leaf::peace::leaf:
 

GrowRebel

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A great read ! It's a little long, so i didn't quote it.


http://www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/JohnJudge/linkscopy/DCTPFA911.html
Thanks for posting that ... certainly a different approach ... but I'm sure it will go way over the deniers heads ...

And now for the 911 News ...
http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=184059/11: Pentagon Aircraft Hijack Impossible, Flight Deck Door Closed for Entire Flight
Newly decoded data provided by an independent researcher and computer programmer from Australia exposes alarming evidence that the reported hijacking aboard American Airlines Flight 77 was impossible to have existed. A data parameter labeled "FLT DECK DOOR", cross checks with previously decoded data obtained by Pilots For 9/11 Truth from the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) through the Freedom Of Information Act.

Richard Gage AIA on New Zealand National Television
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http://tvnz.co.nz/close-up/terrorist-...
Richard Gage AIA appeared on New Zealand's government owned television station, TVNZ, on 27 November 2009.
In this interview on the "Close Up" program, Gage lays out the overwhelming evidence for controlled demolition of 3 WTC office towers on 11 September 2009.
This may be the first time the evidence assembled by Gage and others in the 9/11 truth movement has been presented with the gravity and respect it deserves by any mainstream news broadcaster.
I would like to commend TVNZ's board for having the courage to air this piece.
Here .... here .... :clap:


http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/frameup.htmlTHE 9/11 ANTHRAX FRAME-UP
The Anthrax didn't come from the Middle East. It isn't Saddam's or Osama's, it's the very best high quality mil-spec Anthrax home grown at Fort Detrick, Dugway, and USAMRIID. It's our Anthrax.
And that means that all the slanted writing, the extra crossings on the "T"s, the references to Allah and Israel are a carefully crafted hoax, designed to trick Americans into thinking that Arab Muslims from the middle east were to blame for the Anthrax letters.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2009/nov/25/september-11-wikileaks-pager-messages9/11 re-enacted: Wikileaks publishes September 11 pager messages

Wikileaks would not reveal the source for the leak, but hinted: "It is clear that the information comes from an organisation which has been intercepting and archiving US national telecommunciations since prior to 9/11.


http://www.bushstole04.com/fakewar/international_terrorism.htmInternational Terrorism Does Not Exist

International Terrorism Does Not Exist
by General Leonid Ivashov *


http://www.bushstole04.com/fakewar/brzezinski.htmTop globalist warns Congress of provocation or terrorist attack inside U.S.

Brzezinski Suggests False Flag Event Could Kick-Start Iran War
Top globalist warns Congress of provocation or terrorist attack inside U.S.
Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
Tuesday, February 6, 2007

Former National Security Advisor and founding member of the Trilateral Commission Zbigniew Brzezinski tacitly warned a Senate Foreign Relations Committee last week that an attack on Iran could be launched following a staged provocation in Iraq or a false flag terror attack within the U.S.


They are just itching for another false flag attack.:fire:

http://refreshingnews9.blogspot.com/2009/11/911-pager-messages-revealed.html9/11 pager messages revealed
Wikileaks said some of the messages were sent by federal and local officials, but most appear to be from ordinary people, including frantic New Yorkers trying to reach loved ones in and around the World Trade Center.
From "Second World Trade Center tower collapses" to "I'm ok & love you..xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxox" they relive the anguish and emotion of the day.


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