Religion Poisons Everything
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Woodstock.Hippie
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Who you calling christ?
How do we explain the Unexplainable Whys of Life without acknowledging the Spiritual Realm linked to our Souls?
The physical, not the spiritual was addressed in your video.
We believe the video's concepts completely.
We cannot explain the unexplainable that exist beyond the Pillars of Hercules except with Myth.
How do we explain the Unexplainable Whys of Life without acknowledging the Spiritual Realm linked to our Souls?
The physical, not the spiritual was addressed in your video.
We believe the video's concepts completely.
We cannot explain the unexplainable that exist beyond the Pillars of Hercules except with Myth.
morgentaler
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You don't explain the unexplainable. Hence the whole "unexplainable".
When you claim to explain the unexplainable, that's illogical, arrogant, and usually the first step before asking for money or the creation of a temple.
Anti-Theists are against organized religion.
But they don't hate gods, because gods don't exist. Now if these make believe gods existed, and actually acted in the ways their believers and scriptures represented, it would be completely understandable why anyone would hate such a thing.
Or would you gladly forgive someone that would destroy everyone you know, give them into slavery, or offer them up to be raped as a reward for obedience?
I swear, I think you ask some of these questions because you know I'll be on them like a pit-bull
Woodstock.Hippie
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Atheists don't hate gods, because gods don't exist.
Anti-Theists believe differently.
If you would, please compare and contrast:
against organized religion ≠ God Haters
active opposition to theism = God Haters
Anti-Theists believe differently.
If you would, please compare and contrast:
against organized religion ≠ God Haters
active opposition to theism = God Haters
anhedonia
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If you notice the title, its called the biology of enlightenment. You think enlightenment isnt spiritual?? LOL. Don't get out much?
Woodstock.Hippie
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"You think enlightenment isnt spiritual?? LOL. Don't get out much?"
Please don't be mean.
Open your mind.
Never did I indicate
enlightenment ≠ Spriitment
We believe we are more Spiritual than most.
I personally have been described as a super-secret secular scientist
that is more Spiritual than most.
Please don't be mean.
Open your mind.
Never did I indicate
enlightenment ≠ Spriitment
We believe we are more Spiritual than most.
I personally have been described as a super-secret secular scientist
that is more Spiritual than most.
Vindicated
Well-Known Member
A super-secret secular scientist? Oh that sounds like cool club. What do you have to do to join?
fulbright
Member
You're making the assumption that there is a spiritual realm linked to our souls. I know of no such realm. You, like Plato imagine that we live in a world of shadows, and that reality is beyond what we know.
Do we even have souls? I don't think we do. Doing drugs has convinced me that I am inseparable from my body. Whatever affects my body will affect ME. I AM my physical body.
There is no absolute answer for why. You must believe in something higher than yourself for there to be an absolute answer. You also assume that there IS an answer for the question of Why? Perhaps there is no answer, other than the one we CREATE for ourselves.
Some people will track our science all the way back to the big bang and then point, smirking: "See! Something must of come before the Big Bang -- something must have caused this! God exists!" Why must there be a cause for our effect? Why must the universe, which is SO vast, bow before our reason? I have a very limited understanding of quantum mechanics, I admit, but one of the things I do know, is that the universe doesn't always work as we expect it should.
The truly unexplainable is just that: unexplainable. If we could explain it without pointing to myths and stories, then it would cease to be unexplainable.
morgentaler
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And what IS a soul?
Is it consciousness, or just a speck of energy with some intrinsic religious value?
We can go into the brain and use drugs or physical means to completely alter a person.
Brain damage can wipe out the entirety of a person's personality or memories.
It can leave a person with no functioning cognition, and only autonomic reflexes.
If the soul is not physical and defines who a person is, why can a subdural hemotoma affect it?
Is it consciousness, or just a speck of energy with some intrinsic religious value?
We can go into the brain and use drugs or physical means to completely alter a person.
Brain damage can wipe out the entirety of a person's personality or memories.
It can leave a person with no functioning cognition, and only autonomic reflexes.
If the soul is not physical and defines who a person is, why can a subdural hemotoma affect it?
Woodstock.Hippie
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We believe our souls are composed of many physical and spiritual things, including our awareness and a spot of energy with some intrinsic link to somewhere else and time.
Our souls are affected but not destroyed by brain damage.
Being a Super Secret Secularist (SSS) member proves helpful under certain overpowering authoritarian religious situations.
What exactly is "a world of shadows" in YOUR reality?
"You must believe in something higher than yourself for there to be an absolute answer".
We believe in our Higher Powers.
Perhaps the answer to the question of Why is no other than the one we CREATE for ourselves.
Even if an SSS member or anyone else on the Internet did claim something as Ludacris as ""See! Something must of come before the Big Bang -- something must have caused this! God exists!" , it doesn't matter to us, other than we are happy they are happy.
"If we could explain it without pointing to myths and stories, then it would cease to be unexplainable."
and also Human.
Our souls are affected but not destroyed by brain damage.
Being a Super Secret Secularist (SSS) member proves helpful under certain overpowering authoritarian religious situations.
What exactly is "a world of shadows" in YOUR reality?
"You must believe in something higher than yourself for there to be an absolute answer".
We believe in our Higher Powers.
Perhaps the answer to the question of Why is no other than the one we CREATE for ourselves.
Even if an SSS member or anyone else on the Internet did claim something as Ludacris as ""See! Something must of come before the Big Bang -- something must have caused this! God exists!" , it doesn't matter to us, other than we are happy they are happy.
"If we could explain it without pointing to myths and stories, then it would cease to be unexplainable."
and also Human.
fulbright
Member
I brought up absolute answers and higher powers, because most people imagine them up to give themselves answers to WHY. They are weak. Rather than carve out their own why, they turn to someone else: "Tell me why I'm here!"
The journalistic questions: who, what, when, where, why, how -- are often answered by the weak-willed with god.
You must either worship a god, or become one. I choose to become one. Does god (assuming he exists), being the highest power he must know, have a why given to him? Of course not. He creates one.
Woodstock.Hippie
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SSS members believe in carving our our own whys by challenging the whys of the world with science.
We do not need to prove why we believe Humanity has a soul.
You believe what you want.
We have no interest in altering your thoughts ,although we already have.
We've read Plato long ago, and believe in the power of Light.
What exactly is "a world of shadows" in YOUR reality?
Have YOU ever been persecuted for your beliefs?
I and I believe Humanity is a manifestation of God and God is a manifestation of Humanity.
How many Gods can Humanity manifest?
How many things can a God be?
Can Gods not worship Gods?
The journalistic questions: who, what, when, where, why, how -- are ultimately unexplainable.
We do not need to prove why we believe Humanity has a soul.
You believe what you want.
We have no interest in altering your thoughts ,although we already have.
We've read Plato long ago, and believe in the power of Light.
What exactly is "a world of shadows" in YOUR reality?
Have YOU ever been persecuted for your beliefs?
I and I believe Humanity is a manifestation of God and God is a manifestation of Humanity.
How many Gods can Humanity manifest?
How many things can a God be?
Can Gods not worship Gods?
The journalistic questions: who, what, when, where, why, how -- are ultimately unexplainable.
fulbright
Member
obviously you're not really going anywhere with this.SSS members believe in carving our our own whys by challenging the whys of the world with science.
We do not need to prove why we believe Humanity has a soul.
of course you don't. that's what makes you such a good scientist.
You believe what you want.
We have no interest in altering your thoughts ,although we already have.
We've read Plato long ago, and believe in the power of Light.
What exactly is "a world of shadows" in YOUR reality?
Have YOU ever been persecuted for your beliefs?
I and I believe Humanity is a manifestation of God and God is a manifestation of Humanity.
How many Gods can Humanity manifest?
How many things can a God be?
Can Gods not worship Gods?
The journalistic questions: who, what, when, where, why, how -- are ultimately unexplainable.
I'll leave you alone with your' pseudo-wise, vague statements.
Woodstock.Hippie
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"I choose to become one"
OK God,
of course you don't need to prove anything to us either..
that's what makes you such a good God.
Show us YOUR waters and We will decide what to drink.
obviously you're not really going anywhere with this.
What do the spiritual beliefs of SSS members have to do with being scientists?
We enjoy carving out our own Whys of the world by challenging existing whys we deem worthy of challenging.
We get to do that because we enjoy changing rules.
I and I were wrong, BTW.
Misotheists are God Haters.
Antitheists are merely antipathetic.
Are Misotheists lurking in RIU's shadows?
OK God,
of course you don't need to prove anything to us either..
that's what makes you such a good God.
Show us YOUR waters and We will decide what to drink.
obviously you're not really going anywhere with this.
What do the spiritual beliefs of SSS members have to do with being scientists?
We enjoy carving out our own Whys of the world by challenging existing whys we deem worthy of challenging.
We get to do that because we enjoy changing rules.
I and I were wrong, BTW.
Misotheists are God Haters.
Antitheists are merely antipathetic.
Are Misotheists lurking in RIU's shadows?
fulbright
Member
You misinterpret my comment. I said god, not God. The lowercase g was intentional, because there is a difference.
I don't know if you're familiar with Master-Slave Morality, as put forth by Nietzsche, but here's a wiki link to refresh your memory.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master-slave_morality
Master morality is a god's morality.
If you take away a god's phenomenal power, what do you have? You have the human mind, the "I", the self.
So thus I choose to be a god. I make my own morality. I make my own why.
I apologize for insulting you. I find your comments frustratingly vague at times, and it's hard to carry on a discussion with vagueness. Even so, I apologize.
Earlier you asked the question of atheists: "How do we explain the Unexplainable Whys of Life without acknowledging the Spiritual Realm linked to our Souls?"
This question assumes there is a spiritual realm and a soul. But I don't believe in spiritual realms or souls. With your question posed to atheists as it is, you seem to expect us to believe in those things, as you do. I'm curious as to why you expect that. Why should I believe I have this nebulous thing called a soul? What will point me to evidence of it's existence?
Brazko
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I've been saying it for years that Buddhist Masters should not be so vague in their teachings, but should literally spell out enlightenment to the student that way they become enlighten then instead of forty years down the road trying to figure out some vague meaning? Another thing is, does enlightenment truly exist? Has there ever been someone to prove enlightenment factual? The oldest and wisest Buddha will say themselves they are searching for enlightenment still after a 100yrs of practice. Its all bologna I feel. Enlightenment is simply information you didn't have before. Buddhism is a rip off, Just give the information needed so we can all be enlightened..GeeeeeEeeze
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PadawanBater
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I have a very similar experience with Hippie. The vagueness kills me!
OregonMeds
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"Are Misotheists lurking in RIU's shadows?"
I've never seen any. You have to fist believe in god AND then hate him to be a misotheist, to me and probably to most people that sounds even more rediculous than normal happy believers.
I've never seen any. You have to fist believe in god AND then hate him to be a misotheist, to me and probably to most people that sounds even more rediculous than normal happy believers.