Study concludes conservatism is a mental illness

redivider

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actually, the study was not studying Hitler, Mussolini, and them... it looked at conservatives and found a correlation between their mind-set, and the mind-set of these two individuals...

the link wasn't proposed, then the study done to prove it... it was the other way around. the study took place, and then they looked at historical figures that shared the same 'traits'.... they just happened to be those two...
 

kappainf

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Lame study. Just so ya know, far left wackos are the minority. Even though the far left has a great deal of government power right now, they are the minority in the US. Majority rule and public opinion will take the government back over. The far lefts power in government will not last, never does. This is why Oblabla can't get away with his agenda. Goodbye far lefties.
 
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the far right is also a minority. the elections always come down to moderates....
So do you want to put us all in mental health gulags or what? Maybe that's a way to "redeploy" gitmo? And we've been hearing about those FEMA camps, maybe that's what's up there!
 

ancap

Active Member
Its really difficult for me to fear conservatives more than liberals, or vice versa. I can't decide which is more dangerous...

A) A conservative who believes there is a value in war and meddling in other's affairs (ranging from other nations affairs all the way down to what people do in the bedroom).

or

B) A liberal who continually entrusts new powers to the same government that starts wars, lies to the public on virtually every level, arrests and jails marijuana users and is taxing and spending us into a depression.



The only consistently logical and ethical choice is to advocate for no ruling class at all.
 

SmokeyMcChokey

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Its really difficult for me to fear conservatives more than liberals, or vice versa. I can't decide which is more dangerous...

A) A conservative who believes there is a value in war and meddling in other's affairs (ranging from other nations affairs all the way down to what people do in the bedroom).

or

B) A liberal who continually entrusts new powers to the same government that starts wars, lies to the public on virtually every level, arrests and jails marijuana users and is taxing and spending us into a depression.



The only consistently logical and ethical choice is to advocate for no ruling class at all.
:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap: :clap::clap::weed:
 

redivider

Well-Known Member
anarchy is neither logical nor ethical.

i'm not placing anyone in any fema camps...

and the reason I said the study didn't try to find the link is because it was not in the stated hypothesis. they tried to find the reason why people that are more far right, are precisely that. they found the reasons to it.... the correlation between musolini and them was probably digged up by some liberal with nothing to do...

and there's nothing false about the study, it shouldn't be insulting, it should be enlightening:

conservative tend to fear and attack a lot of things without really understanding them...

conservatives tend to believe in some sort of god.

conservatives don't like people that interpret things in several different ways....

if you are ashamed or embarrassed by any of the findings then why the hell are you a conservative??

p.s. anarchy is not an option for human existence. it is because of organizing and order that we can talk through computers today.....
 

medicineman

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lmfao could you imagine being a shrink trying to cure people of conservatism? i cant see people flooding to the profession to do that job
Geeze, I'd volunteer. A good solid hammerblow by a 28 oz. framing hammer right between the eyes ought to do the job, LOL.
 

fulbright

Member
and there's nothing false about the study, it shouldn't be insulting, it should be enlightening:

conservative tend to fear and attack a lot of things without really understanding them...

conservatives tend to believe in some sort of god.

conservatives don't like people that interpret things in several different ways....

if you are ashamed or embarrassed by any of the findings then why the hell are you a conservative??
Tell me your not serious.

I could say that liberals tend to like it in the butt. But that kind of statement is both preposterous, and insulting.

tend to, what the fuck does that mean?
your broad and sweeping generalizations mean nothing.

god-and-homo-fearing may equate conservative, but conservative does not equate god-and-homo-fearing

Or maybe I'm just uncomfortable with the shades of gray that language like: "tend to" brings up. :roll:
 

JustAnotherFriedDay

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A study funded by the US government has concluded that conservatism can be explained psychologically as a set of neuroses rooted in "fear and aggression, dogmatism and the intolerance of ambiguity".

As if that was not enough to get Republican blood boiling, the report's four authors linked Hitler, Mussolini, Ronald Reagan and the rightwing talkshow host, Rush Limbaugh, arguing they all suffered from the same affliction.

All of them "preached a return to an idealised past and condoned inequality".

Republicans are demanding to know why the psychologists behind the report, Political Conservatism as Motivated Social Cognition, received $1.2m in public funds for their research from the National Science Foundation and the National Institutes of Health.

The authors also peer into the psyche of President George Bush, who turns out to be a textbook case. The telltale signs are his preference for moral certainty and frequently expressed dislike of nuance.

"This intolerance of ambiguity can lead people to cling to the familiar, to arrive at premature conclusions, and to impose simplistic cliches and stereotypes," the authors argue in the Psychological Bulletin.

One of the psychologists behind the study, Jack Glaser, said the aversion to shades of grey and the need for "closure" could explain the fact that the Bush administration ignored intelligence that contradicted its beliefs about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction.

The authors, presumably aware of the outrage they were likely to trigger, added a disclaimer that their study "does not mean that conservatism is pathological or that conservative beliefs are necessarily false".

Another author, Arie Kruglanski, of the University of Maryland, said he had received hate mail since the article was published, but he insisted that the study "is not critical of conservatives at all". "The variables we talk about are general human dimensions," he said. "These are the same dimensions that contribute to loyalty and commitment to the group. Liberals might be less intolerant of ambiguity, but they may be less decisive, less committed, less loyal."

But what drives the psychologists? George Will, a Washington Post columnist who has long suffered from ingrained conservatism, noted, tartly: "The professors have ideas; the rest of us have emanations of our psychological needs and neuroses."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003/aug/13/usa.redbox
Heard it many times before. The "liberalism"/"conservatism" is a mental illness. There's "study's" on both sides.

Neither are mental illnesses. Just two opposite political ideals.
 

JustAnotherFriedDay

Well-Known Member
As a clinical and forensic psychiatrist, Lyle Rossiter has treated over 1,500 patients and examined over 2,700 civil and criminal cases. Turning his hand to political psychopathology, the author of The Liberal Mind: The Psychological Causes of Political Madness, has diagnosed an alarming percentage of the population as suffering from the grotesque form of mental derangement known by some as moonbattery.
Among Rossiter's observations:
Based on strikingly irrational beliefs and emotions, modern liberals relentlessly undermine the most important principles on which our freedoms were founded. Like spoiled, angry children, they rebel against the normal responsibilities of adulthood and demand that a parental government meet their needs from cradle to grave.​
A social scientist who understands human nature will not dismiss the vital roles of free choice, voluntary cooperation and moral integrity — as liberals do. A political leader who understands human nature will not ignore individual differences in talent, drive, personal appeal and work ethic, and then try to impose economic and social equality on the population — as liberals do. And a legislator who understands human nature will not create an environment of rules which over-regulates and over-taxes the nation's citizens, corrupts their character and reduces them to wards of the state — as liberals do.​
The roots of liberalism — and its associated madness — can be clearly identified by understanding how children develop from infancy to adulthood and how distorted development produces the irrational beliefs of the liberal mind. When the modern liberal mind whines about imaginary victims, rages against imaginary villains and seeks above all else to run the lives of persons competent to run their own lives, the neurosis of the liberal mind becomes painfully obvious.​
Basically liberalism is a willful failure to mature beyond adolescence that can have catastrophic consequences for society. With luck, the official diagnosis of this disease by a mental health professional will facilitate the search for a cure.
On tips from Jimbo and Hutchrun.


http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2008/02/psychiatrist_co.html

















Need I say more?
 

ancap

Active Member
anarchy is neither logical nor ethical.
Anarchy (very bastardized term) is simply a society without a ruling class. Another word for it is voluntarism, which describes a society where all relationships and interactions are voluntary. There is no shred of illogic about this proposition unless you'd like to point it out.

Voluntarism, or a society without institutionalized violent force, is absolutely ethical by its very definition. In fact, any deviation from voluntarism, or free choice, is unethical.


p.s. anarchy is not an option for human existence. it is because of organizing and order that we can talk through computers today.....
Are you saying "anarchy is not an option" as if you're an authoritarian parent telling your kid they can't go on the swing, or are you saying anarchy is not in the realm of physical possibility?

Free market voluntarism has nothing to do with a lack of organization and order.
 

medicineman

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Anarchy (very bastardized term) is simply a society without a ruling class. Another word for it is voluntarism, which describes a society where all relationships and interactions are voluntary. There is no shred of illogic about this proposition unless you'd like to point it out.

Voluntarism, or a society without institutionalized violent force, is absolutely ethical by its very definition. In fact, any deviation from voluntarism, or free choice, is unethical.




Are you saying "anarchy is not an option" as if you're an authoritarian parent telling your kid they can't go on the swing, or are you saying anarchy is not in the realm of physical possibility?

Free market voluntarism has nothing to do with a lack of organization and order.
This "volunteerism" as you put it, would lead to gangs of roving bullies, taking what they wanted, lording it over the meek by force. So by your own standards, you would just be privatizing your view of government.
 
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This "volunteerism" as you put it, would lead to gangs of roving bullies, taking what they wanted, lording it over the meek by force. So by your own standards, you would just be privatizing your view of government.
Gangs of bullies armed with that awesomely powerful 7.62x39 round? LOL
 

medicineman

New Member
Gangs of bullies armed with that awesomely powerful 7.62x39 round? LOL
Not all the meek are willing to lay down, I've got my 7.62X39 dispenser with an abundance of hollow point ammo, just in case some crackhead or bully attempts to sneak up on me. I live on a cul-de-sac, in the corner at the end, a pretty well fortified position. I'm thinking of putting a 4' high concrete barrier along the front, decorate it with faux brick. Since my lot is about 5 ft higher than the street, it would pretty much protect me from any drive by activity. I'm not paranoid, just practical. I see bad times a commin.
 

ancap

Active Member
This "volunteerism" as you put it, would lead to gangs of roving bullies, taking what they wanted, lording it over the meek by force. So by your own standards, you would just be privatizing your view of government.
I think you are catastrophizing a bit. Proponents of every major social change in history have been met by people who think the sky will fall if the change is made. I don't think there is any reason to believe the world would turn upside down if we did away with society's cancer, namely governments who claim the moral right to hold a monopoly of force over others.
 
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