Chem Trails

Hayduke

Hayduke

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Dude, first of all...the term "Global Warming" is a misnomer in the current discussion. It is climate change. I do not know where you come up with the earth currently being in a cooling phase (back in your day it was the reverse of the prediction which is now the rally cry) cuz the ocean is warming. The ocean is increasing in acidity. This stuff is not in an obscure journal of radical environmentalism, but the foremost, and most widely accepted source across disciplines, the journal Science.

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CrackerJax

CrackerJax

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You need to get out a bit Hay.... the latest reports are clearly showing the earth to be cooling. Look for urself..... even the german scientist out of the city of Kiel who made the first accepted warming model now concedes he was wrong. He never factored in the ocean currents. As soon as he did, bam... the warming trend disappeared.... like al gore with ur money.

Look for urself..... you guys will believe anything told to you if its packaged right...:roll:

One GLANCE at the mechanics and volume of earthly eruptions of greenhouse gas and oil seepage tells you man has a negligible effect ONE WAY OR THE OTHER when it comes to the weather patterns.
 
CrackerJax

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guitarzan420 said:
There's a lot of glacial melt, but then Antarctica is *gaining* ice at an amazing rate.


Antarctic Glaciers Melting Rapidly | LiveScience


Survey finds 84 percent of Antarctic Peninsula glaciers have retreated over the past 50 years. ... Front of a melting glacier. Credit: NOAA/Giuseppe Zibordi ...
www.livescience.com/environment/050421_glacial_retreat.html - Cached
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yes indeed, Antarctica is gaining second year ice at amazing rates right now!!!
 
CrackerJax

CrackerJax

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May, if maybe...... you don't go spinning off on tangents based on those words. the global warming scientist were 100% INCORRECT. They have been discredited and rightfully so. They JUMPED the gun.

Besides....cap and tax will NOT work!!! It's not hard to understand. Wake up....it's a manipulation.
 
doobnVA

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People keeping talking about global warming as if it isn't happening. Regardless of what is causing it, it IS happening. Maybe not everywhere, but where I live people pretty much accept it as fact. Why? Because it's happening to US. When I first moved here, we had four seasons. Now, we have 70 degree weather in January and February like clockwork. 15 years ago that was unheard of. The first year I lived here we had a freaking BLIZZARD, for pete's sake, now it's not unusual to go all winter without ANY snow at all. We have over 3,000 miles of coastland that's eroding at an astounding rate, barrier islands that are disappearing because the sea level is rising, hardiness zones have changed and affected the vegetation (virtually all the zone 6 area has retreated to the north, whereas it used to encompass nearly half the state)....

It may not be happening where YOU live, but it's happening where I live.
 
Hayduke

Hayduke

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Spraying like crazy over San Diego County today. Many trails from horizon to horizon. The morning sun, when seen through the trail, is blindingly brighter. I know how crazy this sounds...but I am convinced that not only is spraying taking place, but that weather modification is not the reason. It may be the reason that is fed to the public when the mainstream starts to ask questions.

The thin cloud layer that results in the afternoon is not shading the sun. To my sensitive blue eyes, it actually appears brighter...so much so that I must shade my eyes if the sun is not very high in the sky.

I know this sounds crazy! But I swear something is up with this. This morning you could see the remnants of trails where the winds had not got to them yet, but were losing their linear shape, connected with actual linear trails. It looked as though the skies were very active last night, yet at least 3 planes were still actively spraying. These result in strange looking light afternoon clouds that bunch up in lines from the Desert to ~15-20 miles inland from the coast from the on-shore flow caused by the daily inland heating.

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CrackerJax

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I know it's all the fad now, but really, try to understand... the atmosphere....global climate is very very very very very very big.

I know it's fashionable to say man does this to the planet and man does that....but the degree is miniscule.... truly.
 
Hayduke

Hayduke

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CrackerJax said:
I know it's all the fad now, but really, try to understand... the atmosphere....global climate is very very very very very very big.

I know it's fashionable to say man does this to the planet and man does that....but the degree is miniscule.... truly.
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Oh I am not worried about the climate getting messed up or changed by Chemtrails...I am worried about us! I want to know what and why.

I also do not believe that the chemtrails are for weather modification...I think it is the default explanation for the masses.

Lots of activity since monday in SD. My daughter is in high school, and yesterday one of her less bright friends noticed the long silvery white trail crossing the sky and asked what it was, not recognizing it as an airplane...just shows that the sky looks weird.

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Hayduke

Hayduke

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jfgordon1 said:
Chemtrails everywhere (indiana) Monday, looked like a grid... shoulda took a pic :?
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No grids here...I think they are trying to make it look more natural. The ones that were done before dawn and just off shore are very parallel. These look very natural as they drift inland with the daily heating/uplift many very long trails and at a different angle (to the off shore) vaguely towards Tuscon and Catalina back and forth and fairly parallel. Also the narrow "X".

Edit: after posting this, and looking as my big US map on the wall...My approximate trajectory of Catalina to Tuscon lines up very close to Vandenberg AFB-Tuscon. Coincidentally, I saw a video recently of a few people protesting outside VAFB. Several uniformed photographers taking stills and video of the peaceful protest.

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Hayduke

Hayduke

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Something just occurred to me...a popular response to questions about chemtrails comes from people too young to remember when there were none, and tries to use the word "science" to give a very simple answer about water condensing and freezing in the very cold and very dry atmosphere (always leaving out sublimation! and the fact that the trails are seen in all types of atmospheric conditions up to too cloudy to see!)...but I digress

If it is the cold dry atmosphere causing only a condensed and frozen trail that persists...WHY does this not happen closer to the ground in similar conditions...like taking off and landing from...say...Billings, MT...or Fargo, ND...or Oslo...Helsinki...Moscow etc?

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morgentaler

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It's amazing that the millions of pilots and flight support staff are involved in this conspiracy and keeping their mouths shut.
It's also amazing how insane it is that water vapor might hang around in the sky for hours. I mean, clouds must be optical illusions right?

I'm just glad that since bigfoot's numbers have been going down, they'll be less able to spread chemtrails to wipe out humanity.

Whew.
 
Hayduke

Hayduke

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morgentaler said:
It's amazing that the millions of pilots and flight support staff are involved in this conspiracy and keeping their mouths shut.
It's also amazing how insane it is that water vapor might hang around in the sky for hours. I mean, clouds must be optical illusions right?

I'm just glad that since bigfoot's numbers have been going down, they'll be less able to spread chemtrails to wipe out humanity.

Whew.
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Dude...if conditions were favorable for it to be cloudy...it would be cloudy!

If the atmosphere is dry enough to be cloud free...the condensation trail that has been seen for 70 damn years would sublimate, or slowly dissipate like all real and normal CONdensation trails. This is not millions of pilots. It is not from commercial aircraft.

They also have been starting and stopping the trail for short distances. The change in location and elevation is minor enough as to not be significantly different enough as to produce a thick trail, then a short and complete absence of any trail followed by a continuous trail.

Look up!

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ginjawarrior

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CrackerJax said:
I know it's all the fad now, but really, try to understand... the atmosphere....global climate is very very very very very very big.

I know it's fashionable to say man does this to the planet and man does that....but the degree is miniscule.... truly.
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how big did you say it was?




Global water and air volume

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Caption: Global water and air volume. Conceptual computer artwork of the total volume of water on Earth (left) and of air in the Earth's atmosphere (right) shown as spheres (blue and pink). The spheres show how finite water and air supplies are. The water sphere measures 1390 kilometres across and has a volume of 1.4 billion cubic kilometres. This includes all the water in the oceans, seas, ice caps, lakes and rivers as well as ground water, and that in the atmosphere. The air sphere measures 1999 kilometres across and weighs 5140 trillion tonnes. As the atmosphere extends from Earth it becomes less dense. Half of the air lies within the first 5 kilometres of the atmosphere.
 
CrackerJax

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So? :lol: That's about right and that's a pretty consistent quantity.

It's called the Goldilocks quotient.

It's a GOOD thing.
 
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