2000w Purple Kush 106 Plant Ebb and Flow SOG

What will I yield?

  • 1 - 2 lbs

    Votes: 57 13.2%
  • 2 - 3 lbs

    Votes: 121 28.1%
  • 3 -4 lbs

    Votes: 107 24.8%
  • 4 or more lbs

    Votes: 146 33.9%

  • Total voters
    431

Bob Smith

Well-Known Member
Rbaha - yeah, the dehumidifier looks perfect for my 8x4, but truthfully I haven't been having issues since I installed the constant drain to the dehumidifier - the worst it gets is in the high 50s, and that's only on really rainy days...........mostly it stays right around 50, +/-2%. We'll see what happens when I start pumping CO2 and water vapor in there, though - should be setup with pics by tomorrow, take a look when you get a chance.

Fatman - it should be obvious by now that neither of us is interested in ghetto-rigging a window AC for use in our tents; I think everyone who's read this thread is quite aware of your views on them at this point - perhaps just drop the matter? Just sayin'......

Anyways rbaha, ladies look nice and happy in there - BTW, do you have any kind of a system for rotating them, or it's a matter of tall guys on the outside and shorter on the inside?
 

fatman7574

New Member
Rbaha - yeah, the dehumidifier looks perfect for my 8x4, but truthfully I haven't been having issues since I installed the constant drain to the dehumidifier - the worst it gets is in the high 50s, and that's only on really rainy days...........mostly it stays right around 50, +/-2%. We'll see what happens when I start pumping CO2 and water vapor in there, though - should be setup with pics by tomorrow, take a look when you get a chance.

Fatman - it should be obvious by now that neither of us is interested in ghetto-rigging a window AC for use in our tents; I think everyone who's read this thread is quite aware of your views on them at this point - perhaps just drop the matter? Just sayin'......

Anyways rbaha, ladies look nice and happy in there - BTW, do you have any kind of a system for rotating them, or it's a matter of tall guys on the outside and shorter on the inside?
Actually I really don't care if your interested or not. There have been over 6300 viewings of this thread. I think I can safely assume more than just the three of us are viewing what is written. I am writing to newbies and people with little knowledge of air conditioners and dehumidifiers who might wish to save money by using an air conditioner as either an air conditioner, a dehumidier or both at a lower cost than the grossly over priced single purpose dehumidifier.

Besides, the entire sets is in a tent. Tents define low cost unconventional (cheap) grows. What difference does it make if an $100 air conditioner is used instead of a $250 dehumidifier. I remind you, it is a tent grow, not a dedicated plant room soon to be pictured in a horticultural digest magazine.

It is your money, but don't be so vane to think everything I write is just for you or your buddy. You two are just little peas in one of the many pea pods of life, so put your vanity away. Get over your self. There is a big audience out there. There is nothing wrong in bringing up that an air conditioner will perform the same job for a lot less money, and they can be used for temperature control and dehumifificatiom when heat is an issue also. I will promise you this. If yu do not bring up possibly buying a grossly over priced dehumidifier Iwill not bring up that a more economical air conditioner will do the same thing at less cost and can also doubleas an air conditioner. WOW!

An over priced dehumidifier can not be used in that fashion. So get over your self and realise there are others reading this thread who may not think the air conditioner is such a bad idea. Isn't that "ghetto-rigging" term sorta the term a biggot would use. I would think in this day and edge that term would be considered out of favor.


Realise this: the humidity has to be reduced as the CO2 is increased. The only way to gain more growth through the use of CO2 is if you also provide conditions that will allow increased transpiration. That means CO2 will just be a waste if you can not keep the humidity down. I keep my humidity at 40% usually. I have repeatedly found that with humidity at 50% or higher during veg growth transpiration transpiration drops in huge amounts. If I allow humidity above 35 to 40% during budding transpiration also drops severely. Any time transpiration decreases the growth slows.
 

theloadeddragon

Well-Known Member
Actually I really don't care if your interested or not. There have been over 6300 viewings of this thread. I think I can safely assume more than just the three of us are viewing what is written. I am writing to newbies and people with little knowledge of air conditioners and dehumidifiers who might wish to save money by using an air conditioner as either an air conditioner, a dehumidier or both at a lower cost than the grossly over priced single purpose dehumidifier.

Besides, the entire sets is in a tent. Tents define low cost unconventional (cheap) grows. What difference does it make if an $100 air conditioner is used instead of a $250 dehumidifier. I remind you, it is a tent grow, not a dedicated plant room soon to be pictured in a horticultural digest magazine.

It is your money, but don't be so vane to think everything I write is just for you or your buddy. You two are just little peas in one of the many pea pods of life, so put your vanity away. Get over your self. There is a big audience out there. There is nothing wrong in bringing up that an air conditioner will perform the same job for a lot less money, and they can be used for temperature control and dehumifificatiom when heat is an issue also. I will promise you this. If yu do not bring up possibly buying a grossly over priced dehumidifier Iwill not bring up that a more economical air conditioner will do the same thing at less cost and can also doubleas an air conditioner. WOW!

An over priced dehumidifier can not be used in that fashion. So get over your self and realise there are others reading this thread who may not think the air conditioner is such a bad idea. Isn't that "ghetto-rigging" term sorta the term a biggot would use. I would think in this day and edge that term would be considered out of favor.


Realise this: the humidity has to be reduced as the CO2 is increased. The only way to gain more growth through the use of CO2 is if you also provide conditions that will allow increased transpiration. That means CO2 will just be a waste if you can not keep the humidity down. I keep my humidity at 40% usually. I have repeatedly found that with humidity at 50% or higher during veg growth transpiration transpiration drops in huge amounts. If I allow humidity above 35 to 40% during budding transpiration also drops severely. Any time transpiration decreases the growth slows.
Fatmans right about the CO2 and temps/RH in relation to Transpiration ;)

Fatman this is not your journal..... make your own journal, trick it out with porn, get tons of views and post your info. Its an easier way to get your info out without having as many issues...... its not your thread ;) .... doesn't matter if your right....... ;) ...... I understand you want to help a bunch of people, and Rock On to that..... but you don't HAVE to do it from Right Here ;) ..... Happy Growing All! :D
 

Bob Smith

Well-Known Member
Actually I really don't care if your interested or not. There have been over 6300 viewings of this thread. I think I can safely assume more than just the three of us are viewing what is written. I am writing to newbies and people with little knowledge of air conditioners and dehumidifiers who might wish to save money by using an air conditioner as either an air conditioner, a dehumidier or both at a lower cost than the grossly over priced single purpose dehumidifier.

Besides, the entire sets is in a tent. Tents define low cost unconventional (cheap) grows. What difference does it make if an $100 air conditioner is used instead of a $250 dehumidifier. I remind you, it is a tent grow, not a dedicated plant room soon to be pictured in a horticultural digest magazine.

It is your money, but don't be so vane to think everything I write is just for you or your buddy. You two are just little peas in one of the many pea pods of life, so put your vanity away. Get over your self. There is a big audience out there. There is nothing wrong in bringing up that an air conditioner will perform the same job for a lot less money, and they can be used for temperature control and dehumifificatiom when heat is an issue also. I will promise you this. If yu do not bring up possibly buying a grossly over priced dehumidifier Iwill not bring up that a more economical air conditioner will do the same thing at less cost and can also doubleas an air conditioner. WOW!

An over priced dehumidifier can not be used in that fashion. So get over your self and realise there are others reading this thread who may not think the air conditioner is such a bad idea. Isn't that "ghetto-rigging" term sorta the term a biggot would use. I would think in this day and edge that term would be considered out of favor.


Realise this: the humidity has to be reduced as the CO2 is increased. The only way to gain more growth through the use of CO2 is if you also provide conditions that will allow increased transpiration. That means CO2 will just be a waste if you can not keep the humidity down. I keep my humidity at 40% usually. I have repeatedly found that with humidity at 50% or higher during veg growth transpiration transpiration drops in huge amounts. If I allow humidity above 35 to 40% during budding transpiration also drops severely. Any time transpiration decreases the growth slows.
This is rbaha's grow journal, so to not turn it into a flame war, I'm gonna try to keep this as short and sweet as possible.

You've made your views very, very clear, writing about ten identical posts with regards to your love of window ACs.

This is not your thread, so wasting several posts on your views is not really your right - start your own thread with the title "Don't Ever Buy a Dehumidifier, Some Duct Tape And a Window AC is Better" if you want to carry on and on about it - this is rbaha's grow journal, not Fatman's view on dehumidifiers journal.

And as far as tent grows being cheap, I'm about $6K into mine, and I'd imagine that rbaha is pretty similarly into his, so relatively speaking to most grows on this site, they're not "cheap".

And I don't think it's "vane" [sic] to assume that as we're the only two talking about dehumidifiers and purchasing them, that your numerous posts referencing the advantages of a window AC over a dehumidifier would be directed at us.

And as far as who brought up the "grossly overpriced dehumidifier", it was rbaha, whose thread we happen to be in, so I kinda feel like he can do what he wants (as can you, within limits, which you're currently overstepping).

And no, "ghetto-rigging" is not a bigotted term; it refers to doing something that a person living in thee ghetto (a poor person) would have to do to make something work in a manner it was not designed for.

It's actually you who show your "bigoted-ness" when you assume that only minorities live in ghettos.

Long story short, you cut and paste shit from Wikipedia, you're crabby and grumpy and lonely, and you never post pics of your grow or anything that I've ever found to be worthwhile.

That being said, you're just a waste of space in my book.

Rbaha, sorry to have to do this in your thread, but I just had to respond.

P.S. - Fatman, I've said my piece, and hopefully you have as well; it'd be nice if both of us (I know I'll do my part) would keep any future posts in this thread strictly related to rbaha's grow.
 

rbahadosingh

Well-Known Member
The humidifier is the same capacity as a $99 Sears air conditioner. Same compressor. Same wattage. Your choice just cost 2.5 times as much... what a bargain, yours does come with a $10 humidistat and a timer built in though. Don't forget to reset the timer every day.
this humidifier has an auto restart feature. thats one of the reasons i got it. just plug it into my controller and set it on continuous. it will recycle when the controller tells it to...

DAMNNNNNNNNNNNNNN........................... im Sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo FUCKING jealous.. those babies look AMAZING!! i pray that one day i can have a grow like that!!! thats fuckin awesome mann.. and i just went and looked at your last grow.. which was amazing as well.. danm... lol. thats all i can say.. you gotta be pretty good to be able to grow that many plants at once.. and have them all turn out as good as yours do.. im thinking about doing something like this.. NOTHING compared to yours tho.. lol i mean i want to have a mother plant.. (something good tho. so im gonna have to order seeds offline... which im not looking forward to doing.. i get nervous doin that) and just take cuttings off of it and grow like 5-10 and just veg them for like a week and then go straight to flowering.. have like a mini version of yours. lol.

have you ever thought about puting a screen of some sort in there??? and try a SCROG??
thanks. never thought of doing scrog. sog works fine for me. i dont know too much about scrog.
 

fatman7574

New Member
Who gives a rats ass if I cut and paste info from Wilipedia when it is just common definitions and simple data. Do you expect me to say., "these aree not my words but simply a cut and paste from wil kipedia." Bite my a*s. I am not plagerizing by writing a text and claiming the words as my own. If the info has references I post the references. I am quite sure you or few of the readers here want to see emperical dat or quotes or rferences from my professional reference text. As for the term getto-rigging you are just showing biggotry ah gainst poor people by using that reference to describe something as attributed to poor people living in a ghetto. The term ghetto in and of itself is a term showing bigotry as most commonly used.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090511070243AAf6T78
http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/ghetto
$6000 into a tent grow. That does not show a level of intelligence I would write about.
 

Bob Smith

Well-Known Member
this humidifier has an auto restart feature. thats one of the reasons i got it. just plug it into my controller and set it on continuous. it will recycle when the controller tells it to...



thanks. never thought of doing scrog. sog works fine for me. i dont know too much about scrog.
Rbaha, I'm gonna try to put up a net today in my tent, stop by if you're interested - it's gonna be a "shotgun" SCROG because my SOG got too tall - won't work like it's supposed to, but will hopefully help me salvage some yield.
 

superdave5

Active Member
First of all Im gunna rep you for the set up. NICE! but second of all, isnt anything over 99 plants the one thing the FEDS will say no too. Ive always been told that as long as you stay under 99 your fine with the FEDS, but going to 106 seems dangerous. Just lookin out man not criticizing you at all. Very nice set up and plants look HEALTHY
 

Lovin'JK

Member
Fatmans a Hater, shit im about 4K in my 4x4 Tents as well! Rock on my fellow tenters! This shit is NOT Cheap buddy. Plus I like having an environment in an environment if ya dig ;)
 

fatman7574

New Member
I'm not a hater I just don't do good old boy shit, bigotry or stupid well. I am judgemental and critical and ignorance upsets me.
 

don2009

Well-Known Member
WOW! This is one of the best thread ive seen keep up the good work I bet you smile from ear to ear every time you go in that tent of yours I hope someday I can get to that level on a SOG method I just wonder how do you keep a SOG going with 100 plants in rotation so you must have like 2 or 300 clones at all times (is that right)? if so do you think its to loud or everywhere in the room I hope not because your style is my goal to be at soon dame bro you are a insperation to me and alot of us in RIU please be safe and keep up the great job. I envy the hell out of that grow. DAME fatman is a fuckin pest too.
 

don2009

Well-Known Member
Hey ever thought of using a light mover? What do you think of that? and you probaly can use 1 light bulb moving back and forth or still both
 

rbahadosingh

Well-Known Member
Rbaha - yeah, the dehumidifier looks perfect for my 8x4, but truthfully I haven't been having issues since I installed the constant drain to the dehumidifier - the worst it gets is in the high 50s, and that's only on really rainy days...........mostly it stays right around 50, +/-2%. We'll see what happens when I start pumping CO2 and water vapor in there, though - should be setup with pics by tomorrow, take a look when you get a chance.

Fatman - it should be obvious by now that neither of us is interested in ghetto-rigging a window AC for use in our tents; I think everyone who's read this thread is quite aware of your views on them at this point - perhaps just drop the matter? Just sayin'......

Anyways rbaha, ladies look nice and happy in there - BTW, do you have any kind of a system for rotating them, or it's a matter of tall guys on the outside and shorter on the inside?
no system for rotating them. they are set where they are because their roots have grown down into the coco mat and spread all over the bottom of the tray. most of the shorter ones are on the outside however.

Actually I really don't care if your interested or not. There have been over 6300 viewings of this thread. I think I can safely assume more than just the three of us are viewing what is written. I am writing to newbies and people with little knowledge of air conditioners and dehumidifiers who might wish to save money by using an air conditioner as either an air conditioner, a dehumidier or both at a lower cost than the grossly over priced single purpose dehumidifier.

Besides, the entire sets is in a tent. Tents define low cost unconventional (cheap) grows. What difference does it make if an $100 air conditioner is used instead of a $250 dehumidifier. I remind you, it is a tent grow, not a dedicated plant room soon to be pictured in a horticultural digest magazine.

It is your money, but don't be so vane to think everything I write is just for you or your buddy. You two are just little peas in one of the many pea pods of life, so put your vanity away. Get over your self. There is a big audience out there. There is nothing wrong in bringing up that an air conditioner will perform the same job for a lot less money, and they can be used for temperature control and dehumifificatiom when heat is an issue also. I will promise you this. If yu do not bring up possibly buying a grossly over priced dehumidifier Iwill not bring up that a more economical air conditioner will do the same thing at less cost and can also doubleas an air conditioner. WOW!

An over priced dehumidifier can not be used in that fashion. So get over your self and realise there are others reading this thread who may not think the air conditioner is such a bad idea. Isn't that "ghetto-rigging" term sorta the term a biggot would use. I would think in this day and edge that term would be considered out of favor.


Realise this: the humidity has to be reduced as the CO2 is increased. The only way to gain more growth through the use of CO2 is if you also provide conditions that will allow increased transpiration. That means CO2 will just be a waste if you can not keep the humidity down. I keep my humidity at 40% usually. I have repeatedly found that with humidity at 50% or higher during veg growth transpiration transpiration drops in huge amounts. If I allow humidity above 35 to 40% during budding transpiration also drops severely. Any time transpiration decreases the growth slows.
fatman, first off you spelled bigot wrong. also i wonder how a man with your knowledge would say that tents define cheap grows. That is not at all true. some people just dont want to dedicate entire rooms to growing. i am however in the process of building a grow room. it should be done by the time this grow is over. i do appreciate your input. but i just dont feel like a window air conditioner would be best for my grow. first of all they are big and bulky and i honestly dont feel like i have enough room for one. secondly i would have to tilt it like you say to one side so the water could be caught in a tray or bucket and lastly it will be blowing out cool air. i dont know if the heat that it puts off will offset the cooling or if the cooling will offset the heat. but either way it will just be too much of a headache to try and figure out. all i need is dehumidifier which puts out heat and will warm my tent just enough to keep it in the temperature range that i want....

First of all Im gunna rep you for the set up. NICE! but second of all, isnt anything over 99 plants the one thing the FEDS will say no too. Ive always been told that as long as you stay under 99 your fine with the FEDS, but going to 106 seems dangerous. Just lookin out man not criticizing you at all. Very nice set up and plants look HEALTHY
im not too worried about the feds. my grow is solely for the personal use of me, my parents and my uncles who all have reccomendations. and I am their caregiver. I am within my limits.
 

rbahadosingh

Well-Known Member
Hey ever thought of using a light mover? What do you think of that? and you probaly can use 1 light bulb moving back and forth or still both
yes. the plants in the middle will get twice as much light as the ones on the sides. and the yield will suffer.
 

Bob Smith

Well-Known Member
I've actually given thought to using a light mover, but am unsure as to how well (if at all) it would play out in a tent.

Also, what kind of a room are you building? How big, etc.?
 

rbahadosingh

Well-Known Member
I've actually given thought to using a light mover, but am unsure as to how well (if at all) it would play out in a tent.

Also, what kind of a room are you building? How big, etc.?
the room is 11ft. x 8.5 ft. i will have 4 4x4 trays 4000w. co2 generator. commercial dehumidifier. 4 magnum xxl 8" reflectors. im going to do a 200+ plant SOG.
 

Bob Smith

Well-Known Member
the room is 11ft. x 8.5 ft. i will have 4 4x4 trays 4000w. co2 generator. commercial dehumidifier. 4 magnum xxl 8" reflectors. im going to do a 200+ plant SOG.
Hmmmmmm............I wonder if I should do the same with my garage (20x10).

I had an electrician wire me up for 60 amps in there, but it's 120V (even though he specifically asked me if I needed one 20 amp circuit at 240V, to which I replied "no").

Long story short, is there a way to turn a 120V into a 240V without having an electrician come out?

Because if so, I'd definitely be down to run some numbers up in there - just not sure my wiring can handle it at the present moment.

Would something like this be what I need?

http://www.bghydro.com/BGH/itemdesc.asp?ic=AACHAR1&eq=&Tp=

Or something like this, perhaps?

http://www.bghydro.com/BGH/itemdesc.asp?ic=AACPPPE2&eq=&Tp=

BTW, I'm drunk and am down about two stacks in online poker, thinking it's bedtime for me..............night all.
 

rbahadosingh

Well-Known Member
Hmmmmmm............I wonder if I should do the same with my garage (20x10).

I had an electrician wire me up for 60 amps in there, but it's 120V (even though he specifically asked me if I needed one 20 amp circuit at 240V, to which I replied "no").

Long story short, is there a way to turn a 120V into a 240V without having an electrician come out?

Because if so, I'd definitely be down to run some numbers up in there - just not sure my wiring can handle it at the present moment.

Would something like this be what I need?

http://www.bghydro.com/BGH/itemdesc.asp?ic=AACHAR1&eq=&Tp=

Or something like this, perhaps?

http://www.bghydro.com/BGH/itemdesc.asp?ic=AACPPPE2&eq=&Tp=

BTW, I'm drunk and am down about two stacks in online poker, thinking it's bedtime for me..............night all.

id say go for it. and im not sure about the 120 to 240. ill have to ask my dad. hes a retired electrician. he'll know. but it shouldnt be hard to wire. most breaker boxes are in the garage anyway.
 
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