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BooMeR242

BooMeR242

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figured id give u guys a lil update. not much has changed since transplant 9 days ago. the clones are doin well. the one pictured in the bak right corner had sum issues when i first transplanted it but i transplanted with superthrive and the next day it bounced right bak up from the previous soggy limp look it had goin on. now theyve got new green growth and the yellow fan leaves im assuming will fall off eventually so ill leave em for now. dont wanna add any more stress to it. i wasnt sure about a feeding schedule tho. i still need to research wat mother maintence methods i wanna use/do.

i decided to give it a feedin at 600ppm with the sensi grow A and B yesterday. i wasnt thinkning when i did it cuz i was just reading instructions and i wanted to actually only do half strentgh but too late now haha. they seemed to of loved it tho theyre bright and standing tall and more new growth. the temps still sittin pretty at 75 and humidity 50% any suggestions for feeding? im prob just gonna feed when it needs for the most part. I read sumwhere mothers only need feedin like twice a month? but theyre still clones tech not mothers so not sure wat i should do. anyways here ya go
 

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Drella

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looking great bro! leaves look a little droopy. this may be from them about to go to sleep, (like an hour or two before lights out), or over water, just keep an eye on them. just my opinion, but next time i would take the wrapping off of the rockwool, male the plant work less to get roots out, you want them heto be able to move freely, like their in the ground. feed mothers just like you would a normal plant. think or her like ur mother, treat her nice. feed her full nutes every watering. you can flush every third water if you want. the reason is you want to keep the genes strong, cutting the strongest cuttings you can get, gives them more of a chance, and healthier, denser in the long run. if you use the bonsai mother method, you can cut the roots 1 square in around the pot every month or two. just my opinion, hope it helps!
 
BooMeR242

BooMeR242

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Drella said:
looking great bro! leaves look a little droopy. this may be from them about to go to sleep, (like an hour or two before lights out), or over water, just keep an eye on them. just my opinion, but next time i would take the wrapping off of the rockwool, male the plant work less to get roots out, you want them heto be able to move freely, like their in the ground. feed mothers just like you would a normal plant. think or her like ur mother, treat her nice. feed her full nutes every watering. you can flush every third water if you want. the reason is you want to keep the genes strong, cutting the strongest cuttings you can get, gives them more of a chance, and healthier, denser in the long run. if you use the bonsai mother method, you can cut the roots 1 square in around the pot every month or two. just my opinion, hope it helps!
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haha oh shit ure rite i was faded and forgot to take off the wrapping haha i still can im sure. usually when i do my own clones we already have the wrap off before we put them in trays i think i cant even remember now. but thanks for the feeding advice gotta figure it out asap
 
#1Raiderfan420

#1Raiderfan420

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BooMeR242 said:
figured id give u guys a lil update. not much has changed since transplant 9 days ago. the clones are doin well. the one pictured in the bak right corner had sum issues when i first transplanted it but i transplanted with superthrive and the next day it bounced right bak up from the previous soggy limp look it had goin on. now theyve got new green growth and the yellow fan leaves im assuming will fall off eventually so ill leave em for now. dont wanna add any more stress to it. i wasnt sure about a feeding schedule tho. i still need to research wat mother maintence methods i wanna use/do.

i decided to give it a feedin at 600ppm with the sensi grow A and B yesterday. i wasnt thinkning when i did it cuz i was just reading instructions and i wanted to actually only do half strentgh but too late now haha. they seemed to of loved it tho theyre bright and standing tall and more new growth. the temps still sittin pretty at 75 and humidity 50% any suggestions for feeding? im prob just gonna feed when it needs for the most part. I read sumwhere mothers only need feedin like twice a month? but theyre still clones tech not mothers so not sure wat i should do. anyways here ya go
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Hey Brother, from my limited experience the plants are more forgiving of nutrient and ph variances in the veg period. IMO I would drop to 75% nute schedule and maybe just water on your next one though. As for the yellow and droopy leaves, mine did that a bit too when they were small like yours. It was from over feeding I think, but when I backed of the nutes a bit they perked up. As soon as there were enough new green fans, I pinched off the lower yellow ones.
I am excited to see those babies grow. :)
 
wonderblunder

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Nice nice,
Once my clones have been transplanted and been given plain water(Transplant day) and then Root 66 and Thrive Alive B-1 Red 2-3 days later. Then the regular feedings begin at 50%. If you are talking about the plastic on rw, I leave it on. I may start taking it off now though. Using Vita-Grow (cloning acid) I have had the roots come right through the plastic.....
 
DubsFan

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wonderblunder said:
Nice nice,
Once my clones have been transplanted and been given plain water(Transplant day) and then Root 66 and Thrive Alive B-1 Red 2-3 days later. Then the regular feedings begin at 50%. If you are talking about the plastic on rw, I leave it on. I may start taking it off now though. Using Vita-Grow (cloning acid) I have had the roots come right through the plastic.....
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If the goal is to grow them to take cuttings I suggest you grow the shit out of them until they are about 70% of the size you need. Then you can cut back.

But yes, in general moms are barely fed. 75% is high. Some only feed them every month or so.
 
BooMeR242

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haha ya the 4 last posts are all diff advice. thats why im glad we can discuss it. but from wat i understand with clones the fan leaves are yellow due to nitrogen deficiency and when the cuttigns are taken the nutes remaining in the cutting are focused on root promotion. but ya i want to focus hard on the roots rite now for strong growth and good uptake of nutes.

with the feeding schedule i think wat we were talkin bout is do normal Veg feedings for the first couple weeks til about the size i want my mothers to be at. then like he said maybe only feed once or twice a month from there.

my other question was i read that u should wit 2 months before u take cuttings from a mother. idk if this time frame is from seed or from clone... i think its just to make sure the mother is strong/healthy enough to bounce bak from shock. also so the cuttings are mature enough to have good vigor and growth.

does anyone have any good/bad experience takin clones? ive only taken them from the bottom portion of the mothers since thats the oldest horomones and its better for rooting. we use root excel gel when trnsplanting and superthrive.
 
wonderblunder

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I have had some excellent success with clones in some mediums, and not very good in others.

Rock Wool and Rapid Rooters are my favorite
PH water to 5.5, soak cubes/rapid rooters. (I use Thrive Alive B-1 Red 1/2 tsp per gallon)
Cut clones from the bottom, I try and cut the smaller shoots off main branches(LST.......) as I go higher, saving the main parts.
Once clone is cut, dip it in PHed water and stir around for 15 seconds or so, and while under water slice the stem open about1/4" (get air bubbles out)
Take out of water and straight into cloning gel( Olivias Cloning gel or Vita Grow for me). Hold for 10-15 seconds (depending on stem thickness)
Of course shake some of the water out of the RW(if using) and insert clone. Humidity dome, flourescents. 5-6 days roots.

My plants have always jumped back from cloning under 2 monthes from seed. I have taken 2 rounds off, 1 plant, and am probably gonna throw it soon, just because Its time to move on.
 
#1Raiderfan420

#1Raiderfan420

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BooMeR242 said:
haha ya the 4 last posts are all diff advice. thats why im glad we can discuss it. but from wat i understand with clones the fan leaves are yellow due to nitrogen deficiency and when the cuttigns are taken the nutes remaining in the cutting are focused on root promotion. but ya i want to focus hard on the roots rite now for strong growth and good uptake of nutes.

with the feeding schedule i think wat we were talkin bout is do normal Veg feedings for the first couple weeks til about the size i want my mothers to be at. then like he said maybe only feed once or twice a month from there.

my other question was i read that u should wit 2 months before u take cuttings from a mother. idk if this time frame is from seed or from clone... i think its just to make sure the mother is strong/healthy enough to bounce bak from shock. also so the cuttings are mature enough to have good vigor and growth.

does anyone have any good/bad experience takin clones? ive only taken them from the bottom portion of the mothers since thats the oldest horomones and its better for rooting. we use root excel gel when trnsplanting and superthrive.
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I use my DIY aero-cloner and it is too easy. I dip the cuttings in cloning gel and use the same nute mix I use for veg in the cloner. 10 days later they are rooted and 14 days I move to carton with cooc coir. I have had 90% success and it is very simple.



This is after about 14 days~

 

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MyGTO2007

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#1Raiderfan420 said:
I use my DIY aero-cloner and it is too easy. I dip the cuttings in cloning gel and use the same nute mix I use for veg in the cloner. 10 days later they are rooted and 14 days I move to carton with cooc coir. I have had 90% success and it is very simple.



This is after about 14 days~

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Hey raiderfan........what size tub and what size pump r u using??
 
Drella

Drella

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BooMeR242 said:
haha oh shit ure rite i was faded and forgot to take off the wrapping haha i still can im sure. usually when i do my own clones we already have the wrap off before we put them in trays i think i cant even remember now. but thanks for the feeding advice gotta figure it out asap
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that's so funny bro! i left the wrapping on to know the different strains, i labeled them. ha, that defn explains it!
 
Hulk Nugs

Hulk Nugs

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Looking good Boomer, no bud porn yet but plenty of other good pics

I have seen that birth mark before hmmm jk

New Indoor setup looks killer going to get crazy in there espically when you add screens.

Looking forward to the updates keep them coming
 
#1Raiderfan420

#1Raiderfan420

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MyGTO2007 said:
Hey raiderfan........what size tub and what size pump r u using??
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It is a 15 gal tub ( I believe) it is the standard size you see in these tubs, with 325 GPH pump. I think it was 50 bucks at home depot.
Here is the DIY link http://www.technologygarden.net/index.php/diy-tutorials/tg-tutorial-building-your-own-homemade-aeroponic-cloning-machine/ I didn't follow it to a tee, but was a good template. If I make another I will make the holes a 1/8 or 1/16 smaller so the neopreme rings fit tighter.
 
MyGTO2007

MyGTO2007

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#1Raiderfan420 said:
It is a 15 gal tub ( I believe) it is the standard size you see in these tubs, with 325 GPH pump. I think it was 50 bucks at home depot.
Here is the DIY link http://www.technologygarden.net/index.php/diy-tutorials/tg-tutorial-building-your-own-homemade-aeroponic-cloning-machine/ I didn't follow it to a tee, but was a good template. If I make another I will make the holes a 1/8 or 1/16 smaller so the neopreme rings fit tighter.
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cool........ i just wanna see different plans.so i can make my own!!!
here is one to

http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=40055
 
BooMeR242

BooMeR242

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#1Raiderfan420 said:
It is a 15 gal tub ( I believe) it is the standard size you see in these tubs, with 325 GPH pump. I think it was 50 bucks at home depot.
Here is the DIY link http://www.technologygarden.net/index.php/diy-tutorials/tg-tutorial-building-your-own-homemade-aeroponic-cloning-machine/ I didn't follow it to a tee, but was a good template. If I make another I will make the holes a 1/8 or 1/16 smaller so the neopreme rings fit tighter.
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thanks for the info raiderfan. ive been considering maybe uping to an aero system ut stickin with wat i know for now and have. ill have to check those links for sure
 
BooMeR242

BooMeR242

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Hulk Nugs said:
Looking good Boomer, no bud porn yet but plenty of other good pics

I have seen that birth mark before hmmm jk

New Indoor setup looks killer going to get crazy in there espically when you add screens.

Looking forward to the updates keep them coming
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haha thanks bro glad u could join us. if u guys get lucky well see more of the birthmark lol.
 
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