Wonders Medical Grow: Round 2
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mikegreenthumb
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thats the benifits of keeping em short my advice nexst grow keep em short and do a bunch if your worried about plant limits i dunno if your in cali but check out / google people vs kelly plant limits unconstitutional anyway got off on tangent kiss keep it simple stupid meaning do a bunch keep em short 2-3 1/2 feet and should be no light issues other than that if you want big ass plants go outside otherwise your killing effecency all around yield light time all the above growing indoor 09 pictures by mikegreenthumb - Photobucket
wonderblunder
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Glad you are skeptical. Gives me more motivation to succeed with what I have going right now. Wonder Woman is gonna be some HUGE colas. Probably 50+ bud sights within 10"s of a main stalk.
All good, Probably about that time to spread some love to ya.
Not in California, I am trying out a few different techniques. If the results aren't what I was looking for I will go back to horizontal lighting for the next run. I do not like having a bunch of little pots. I find it makes watering difficult, and I generally neglect the ones in the back of the room. Honestly I have no idea what you are talking about. Looked at your pics, looked pretty solid. +rep
wonderblunder
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I have been up since 5, lights come on in hour and a half(9:00 AM). Every night they are packing pistols and getting bigger. I finnally have a plant almost as tall as me and most certainly taller than my wife. Purple Widow is coming along and has the most developed bud sites
wonderblunder
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Thanks a lot. You can never know enough. I would bet many of these legends around here(on RIU) would say they are continually learning new things about growing. Do your research, and execute. Scientific method is very effective.
wonderblunder
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Anbody have any ideas on a timer/ controller that can run 8k HPS? Maybe with c02?
I'd put the lights and controller on different circuits, in all honesty.
You can get a Sentinel CHHC-1 (I have one, love it) for $510, delivered to your door (Ebay).
For the lights, you're gonna need this bad motherfucker...............
http://www.bghydro.com/BGH/itemMatrix.asp?GroupCode=TIPBDPC120TD&eq=&MatrixType=1
wonderblunder
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Damn thats some pricy equpment bob. I could justify the sentinal but not the other light deal. I found something for $200, which I think could work, what do you think?
Check both they are different products. This all calls for 240v, which makes me feel a little safer
http://www.horticulturesource.com/ecoplus-50-amp-timer-box-use-with-ecoplus-8482-digital-timer-734105-p1970/?osCsid=c0948ba4e1bf178cdd74e78889cfeeb2
http://www.horticulturesource.com/c-a-p-custom-automated-products-cap-mlc-8xt-master-lighting-controller-8-lights-w-timer-p6033/?osCsid=c0948ba4e1bf178cdd74e78889cfeeb2
Check both they are different products. This all calls for 240v, which makes me feel a little safer
http://www.horticulturesource.com/ecoplus-50-amp-timer-box-use-with-ecoplus-8482-digital-timer-734105-p1970/?osCsid=c0948ba4e1bf178cdd74e78889cfeeb2
http://www.horticulturesource.com/c-a-p-custom-automated-products-cap-mlc-8xt-master-lighting-controller-8-lights-w-timer-p6033/?osCsid=c0948ba4e1bf178cdd74e78889cfeeb2
Ummmmmmmmm...................I mean, it looks like it would work, I guess.
However, when it comes to electrical, you're talking the wrong guy, my friend
As an aside, have been kinda busy with setting things up for my grow and whatnot - at what point did you decide to run 8 1Ks, and how did you come to that decision?
I mean, you're running 1800W right now in your flower room, correct?
I'm as balls to the wall as anybody, and am already ordering shit for a room I'm not gonna build until sometime in the fall, but that jump seems kinda ludicrous to me, in all honesty.
Yeah, you seem to have a handle on what you're doing, and you're gonna get a nice harvest this time (knock on wood), but really? 8K?
I mean, you're not sure if you like vertical or horizontal lighting yet, you're still growing in dirt (no offense to people who do that, but that's a non-starter for an 8K op - just too much dirt to buy and dispose of).
Sorry for sounding like I'm preaching, but I'd HIGHLY recommend you giving this a little more thought before going balls in - maybe start with 2 or 3 and work your way up?
Sorry to sound like your dad, just think maybe taking a step back and really thinking this through (which you might have done, have missed the thread for a bit) would prolly be a good idea.
No matter what you decide, good luck
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mikegreenthumb
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all those light timers are real cool and all but did you ever try hooking up a power strip to timer if they are all on same timing it just powers off whole strip this way you can spend 10$ on time 15$ on power strip bingo bango ready to go as long as not overloading circuit my girlfriends dad is electrical designer/engineer so if you pm any special questions i can holler at him and get back within a day or so
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mikegreenthumb
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and yeah it is a pain in the ass pulling out every plant to water em i do it this way so that water runoff stays outta grow room keeping humity down but also so i can shuffle around and check each plant as im watering for pest nut def etc
wonderblunder
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Its a completely new room in a new location. Starting from the ground up. I will probably simplify my grow at home to 1k hps in a tent for flower and 1 flouro panel for veg/clone. The MHs will be used in the veg room of the new space. I am collecting all the equipment and starting to make purchases.Ummmmmmmmm...................I mean, it looks like it would work, I guess.
However, when it comes to electrical, you're talking the wrong guy, my friend
As an aside, have been kinda busy with setting things up for my grow and whatnot - at what point did you decide to run 8 1Ks, and how did you come to that decision?
I mean, you're running 1800W right now in your flower room, correct?
I'm as balls to the wall as anybody, and am already ordering shit for a room I'm not gonna build until sometime in the fall, but that jump seems kinda ludicrous to me, in all honesty.
Yeah, you seem to have a handle on what you're doing, and you're gonna get a nice harvest this time (knock on wood), but really? 8K?
I mean, you're not sure if you like vertical or horizontal lighting yet, you're still growing in dirt (no offense to people who do that, but that's a non-starter for an 8K op - just too much dirt to buy and dispose of).
Sorry for sounding like I'm preaching, but I'd HIGHLY recommend you giving this a little more thought before going balls in - maybe start with 2 or 3 and work your way up?
Sorry to sound like your dad, just think maybe taking a step back and really thinking this through (which you might have done, have missed the thread for a bit) would prolly be a good idea.
No matter what you decide, good luck
The new room will probably not be documented on RIU(depends on how comfortable I am), but I will definitely document the whole thing for posting once complete.
Very good point with the soil cost/ dispose. That hadn't crossed my mind. Definitely something to consider. Thank you for prodding my idea, because brings new ideas to life. I am not at all committed to it, but have the idea in my mind, and have started purchasing materials and equip.
I am feeling pretty good about the E & F I built but think DWC is probably the way to go for a vertical tree style grow(plant numbers are somewhat limited)
Thanks for your input Bob, You don't have to say sorry, you could have wrapped that up with a kick in the head!
wonderblunder
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Timers(like any other electrical device) have watt/volt/ amp ratings. You should not exceed those rating, I actually make a point to stay a reasonable amount under the rating in case of defect or acts of ^. I may not be overloading the circuit but sure overloading the timer which could be a fire hazard.
Just as long as you know what you're getting yourself into (which no one can possibly do until they do it, but you can have a reasonable idea).
For instance, can you handle an entire crop being wiped out? Turning hermie and getting seeded up on you?
Also, I'm assuming you have some partners in this venture?
Have you thought through how trustworthy they are? Thought through how important security, etc. will be? Not even talking about cops, I'd be more worried about the guys with masks.
I mean, that's some serious weight to be pushing around, in addition to the time it would take - that's a fulltime job for a few guys, and would be (almost) impossible for just you and your wife.
Man, there's a lotta shit to think about..........I know you're thorough (like me, for the most part), but this requires some extra hard thinking about, IMHO.
wonderblunder
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Heading out of town for a night tomorrow, so Probably won't update tomorrow. Took some pics. I fed them their first flowering nutrients today. Also foliar fed early this morning with a 2tsp/ gal GH Floralicious.
Took 20 clones today. I already have my plants for the next run, but clones have been in demand, and I think I am going to start vegging for '10 outdoor run. Purple Widow is the only strain I have decided for outdoors this up coming year, more than likely be adding more.
Finished the watering system today. In pics there is a 20 gallon sump pump basin($20 @ Home Depot) in front of the 55 gallon drum. I made markings on the sump pump basin(20 gallon res) at 5, 10, 15 gallons. Moved the large sump pump with the sprayer into the 20 gallon res. Added a small 225 gph pump into the 55 gallon drub with 3/4" clear tubing into the 20 gallon res. So when I need to water, I fill the 20 gallon res (to my desired level), by flipping the small submersible pump. Then I can add nutrients, or just give it the straight water without ever having to add nutrients to the 55 gallon drum. AMakes life alot easier. Just flipping switches and runnning a watering wand.........
Drying rack made out of window screens ($1 a piece; $5 total)
Plants and some different angle views.
Any input on my flower nutrients?
- Fox Farm Big Bloom
- Fox Farm Tiger Bloom
- Fox Farm Beastie Bloomz
- Liquid Kool Bloom
- GH Floralicious
(starting at 60% nutrients; 6 gallons equivilant of nutrients for 10 gallon a water) Increasing by 10 percent every other feeding)
The products pictured are a majority of what I have right now for flowering.
Took 20 clones today. I already have my plants for the next run, but clones have been in demand, and I think I am going to start vegging for '10 outdoor run. Purple Widow is the only strain I have decided for outdoors this up coming year, more than likely be adding more.
Finished the watering system today. In pics there is a 20 gallon sump pump basin($20 @ Home Depot) in front of the 55 gallon drum. I made markings on the sump pump basin(20 gallon res) at 5, 10, 15 gallons. Moved the large sump pump with the sprayer into the 20 gallon res. Added a small 225 gph pump into the 55 gallon drub with 3/4" clear tubing into the 20 gallon res. So when I need to water, I fill the 20 gallon res (to my desired level), by flipping the small submersible pump. Then I can add nutrients, or just give it the straight water without ever having to add nutrients to the 55 gallon drum. AMakes life alot easier. Just flipping switches and runnning a watering wand.........
Drying rack made out of window screens ($1 a piece; $5 total)
Plants and some different angle views.
Any input on my flower nutrients?
- Fox Farm Big Bloom
- Fox Farm Tiger Bloom
- Fox Farm Beastie Bloomz
- Liquid Kool Bloom
- GH Floralicious
(starting at 60% nutrients; 6 gallons equivilant of nutrients for 10 gallon a water) Increasing by 10 percent every other feeding)
The products pictured are a majority of what I have right now for flowering.
wonderblunder
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I used same twisty tie type material I use to tie the plants around with. I actually tied no knots and just double wrapped each corner at 90 degrees. Guess a pic would be better but, in other words I just put the twisty tie stuff through the screen, wrapped around the aluminum screen frame, through the screen again back around the aluminum frame and then through the screen up to the next tier, and repeat. No holes drilled whatever.
I wish I could filler her up right now!
wonderblunder
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More good points brought up. Im not sure what I am in for. I did forget to mention that there will only be 6k hps to start, so I only have to buy 3 more 1000w hps. I could afford to lose the whole crop if worse came to worse. No partners, I am not sure I can trust anybody enough with something like this. Security is somewhat of an issue. But how safe can you really be. Have metal exterior doors(on the inside of the space of course). Location is very quiet and out a country road. I do worry about home invasion type stuff. In a situation like this, being a gunslinger might not always turn out the best. Honestly the way I feel about this, is that over the period of time of me collecting the equipment, things will start taking shape. I am not the kind of guy who goes out and blows $4000(ball park of lighting, medium, nutrients) to get going. My first big item will be the 1000ws, cords, sockets, etc. Then I will have some time to tinker and think of whats next. Theoretically it could be running around the begining of febuary, but I am in no hurry, and am planning on taking my time and thinking things through. I'd like to have this going so I can get my outdoor run going in this room at the latest.