Katatawnic
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THELOADEDDRAGON'S Perpetually growing perpetual grow
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wonderblunder
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Never thought about the roots needing to stay at certain temps. Good to know. Have a safe and happy new year to all.
Drella
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yeah i didn;t know that the soil keeps roots warmer than the room temp makes sense. LD is like a green wizard, experience man, and sharing!
hey loaded...
you live in Montana right? and grow legally there i guess...
up to 6 plants per patient... and you can have several patients ? if i had some money to my name i'd be looking at moving, bro. This raiderman stuff gots me freak'in out again
i never planned on doing this long term... but i'm still doing it. other than cally, i'm trying to figure out what the best state actually is... Colorado is also sounding pretty good right now.
- DaGambler
(EDIT: after some brief research it's looking like Washington would be the best place to be... a person can harvest up to 15 plants... or more if a doctor has given permission to do so.)
(RE-EDIT: shit, can only be a caregive for one person in Washington... needs more research.)
(RE-RE-EDIT: holy shite, dude, i think you may actually be in -the- best medical marijuana state ... information reguarding current Medical Marijuana Laws in Montana (and i quote) "33. Can patients or caregivers form growing cooperatives? The law is silent on this issue."
I wanna move to Montana. Rent me a trailer on ur back 40
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you live in Montana right? and grow legally there i guess...
up to 6 plants per patient... and you can have several patients ? if i had some money to my name i'd be looking at moving, bro. This raiderman stuff gots me freak'in out again
i never planned on doing this long term... but i'm still doing it. other than cally, i'm trying to figure out what the best state actually is... Colorado is also sounding pretty good right now.
- DaGambler(EDIT: after some brief research it's looking like Washington would be the best place to be... a person can harvest up to 15 plants... or more if a doctor has given permission to do so.)
(RE-EDIT: shit, can only be a caregive for one person in Washington... needs more research.)
(RE-RE-EDIT: holy shite, dude, i think you may actually be in -the- best medical marijuana state ... information reguarding current Medical Marijuana Laws in Montana (and i quote) "33. Can patients or caregivers form growing cooperatives? The law is silent on this issue."
I wanna move to Montana. Rent me a trailer on ur back 40
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theloadeddragon
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Thanks guys......
I have nothing to worry about. Fully legit. I meet with lawyer once a yr, or if anything big is going on, just to keep myself in check,
. One of the things that keeps me safest is: No money involved what so ever . I grow for Seriously chronically ill patients that really Can't grow it for themselves. They can't afford to buy it as a regular medication, nor can they afford to purchase the numerous other medications it would take for them to "replace" cannabis. Cannabis, in its medical capacity, has been witnessed and experienced by myself on countless occasions..... to the effect of saving lives, and creating a positive and healthy environment for those in its parameters .
I have nothing to worry about. Fully legit. I meet with lawyer once a yr, or if anything big is going on, just to keep myself in check,
. One of the things that keeps me safest is: No money involved what so ever . I grow for Seriously chronically ill patients that really Can't grow it for themselves. They can't afford to buy it as a regular medication, nor can they afford to purchase the numerous other medications it would take for them to "replace" cannabis. Cannabis, in its medical capacity, has been witnessed and experienced by myself on countless occasions..... to the effect of saving lives, and creating a positive and healthy environment for those in its parameters .
theloadeddragon
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Thus they enjoy the benefits of fine medicinal cannabis free of charge. These are people blessed with beautiful hearts, minds, and souls, who's many contributions to the world and society should only be remember by few, though they are honored by respect, that society let them medicate in peace, and live more fruitful productive healthy and prosperous lives.
Cannabis such as what is pictured below, 1st two are Sensi Star (outdoor 09) second two are Chemo Cindy (with little bit of PK from outdoor 09 propping it up, I am smoking the last of the 09 herb now. On with the new!
SS is great for nausea and appetite, as well as creative uplifting floating functioning daily stone
CC is Gunna put you to sleep, relax your body and tensions or anxieties, get your belly full and off to sleep, waking up feeling refreshed and ready for a good day
Cannabis such as what is pictured below, 1st two are Sensi Star (outdoor 09) second two are Chemo Cindy (with little bit of PK from outdoor 09 propping it up, I am smoking the last of the 09 herb now
. On with the new!SS is great for nausea and appetite, as well as creative uplifting floating functioning daily stone
CC is Gunna put you to sleep, relax your body and tensions or anxieties, get your belly full and off to sleep, waking up feeling refreshed and ready for a good day
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greenthumb111
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Happy New Year TLD! Buds are looking good.Thus they enjoy the benefits of fine medicinal cannabis free of charge. These are people blessed with beautiful hearts, minds, and souls, who's many contributions to the world and society should only be remember by few, though they are honored by respect, that society let them medicate in peace, and live more fruitful productive healthy and prosperous lives.
Cannabis such as what is pictured below, 1st two are Sensi Star (outdoor 09) second two are Chemo Cindy (with little bit of PK from outdoor 09 propping it up, I am smoking the last of the 09 herb now
SS is great for nausea and appetite, as well as creative uplifting floating functioning daily stone
CC is Gunna put you to sleep, relax your body and tensions or anxieties, get your belly full and off to sleep, waking up feeling refreshed and ready for a good day
wonderblunder
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Happy New Years. 2010..............
theloadeddragon
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Thank you mucho!
oh shit... its three in the morning!
Anyways.......
Transplanted 7 rooted PK clones into 1 gallon pots. Transplanted 5 rooted Chemo Cindy clones into 1 gallon pots. Everything in veg got watered. Just about all of the other cuttings will be ready to be transplanted into their first cups in the next couple of days. I ran out of soil...... going to have to get more with a quickness! Im running out of pots again as well..... so I have to go pick up some more....... I really could transplant Most of the cuttings/clones now..... but Im freakin Tired!
The Silverback Set got Full Strength Thrive Alive B1....... the larger two Purple Kush plants, and the blue Dream got X2 Strength Thrive Alive B1, the Sensi Star cuttings/clones got 1/2 strength Thrive Alive B1. And last but not least, All of the seedlings got 1/2 strength dose of BB Fish Mix, and they will soon be transplanted. I have resigned to the fact that I am going to have to break in the new HPS vegging plants rather than flowering them, as I am running out of space under the veg lights.
Everything in flower will be fed tomorrow.
oh shit... its three in the morning!
Anyways.......
Transplanted 7 rooted PK clones into 1 gallon pots. Transplanted 5 rooted Chemo Cindy clones into 1 gallon pots. Everything in veg got watered. Just about all of the other cuttings will be ready to be transplanted into their first cups in the next couple of days. I ran out of soil...... going to have to get more with a quickness! Im running out of pots again as well..... so I have to go pick up some more....... I really could transplant Most of the cuttings/clones now..... but Im freakin Tired!
The Silverback Set got Full Strength Thrive Alive B1....... the larger two Purple Kush plants, and the blue Dream got X2 Strength Thrive Alive B1, the Sensi Star cuttings/clones got 1/2 strength Thrive Alive B1. And last but not least, All of the seedlings got 1/2 strength dose of BB Fish Mix, and they will soon be transplanted. I have resigned to the fact that I am going to have to break in the new HPS vegging plants rather than flowering them, as I am running out of space under the veg lights
.Everything in flower will be fed tomorrow
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wonderblunder
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Hey,
A page or so back the topic of root/medium temperature came up. Looking at these "Smart Pots", they claim to cool down the roots and aerate them. I understand the aeration, but are certain mediums more likely to hold heat or not?
In other words, I am looking to keep the warmth in the pot(gets a little chilly at night),
My 2 plants in smart pots are dwarfed compared to the rest. Same coco mix, etc. I think its the pot. 7 gallon smarts
A page or so back the topic of root/medium temperature came up. Looking at these "Smart Pots", they claim to cool down the roots and aerate them. I understand the aeration, but are certain mediums more likely to hold heat or not?
In other words, I am looking to keep the warmth in the pot(gets a little chilly at night),
My 2 plants in smart pots are dwarfed compared to the rest. Same coco mix, etc. I think its the pot. 7 gallon smarts
theloadeddragon
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naturally the plants roots are typically in the ground, in soil. Night time temperatures often dip for plants in soil. Cannabis is an extremely acclimatize-able and resilient plant. Most plants, and Indica dominant strains in particular, are resistant to substrate temperatures going as far down as the mid fifties, colder media temps will cause damage to the root systems, and could (if unchecked, and especially during lights on) create harmful bacteria in the medium. Media temperatures below 60 degrees often times slows overall plant development, which I touched on a couple pages back.
Smart pots are thin? I haven't used them, but think I understand the theory and design etc. If they are thinner, they will retain less heat. If they are more porous, then colder air will penetrate the media easier during colder temperatures, and it will release more of its warmer more humid air through the sides of the bottoms rather than normal top layer transpiration you typically see with normal pots.
The media itself, depending upon its components, should hold temperatures in relation to the amount of salts etc. that passes through it as well, though it will only cause slight variations.
You could cut plastic bags and wrap the pots at nighttime to hold warmer ambient air closer to the pots at lights off. Or you could get a small space heater and turn it on at pot level (or even better, just below pot level if possible) on an internal thermostat.
Another thing to keep in mind when it comes to media temps..... is the indigenous location of the strains, and their natural climate cycles. Depending on the natural climate conditions of the plants origin climates, some strains might "expect" a colder media through out flower as apposed to that of the vegetative season. Or in other words. In the different places in the world that landrace strains come from, it is to be understood that some areas are more temperate than others, more tropical, more polar extreme, and thus, the strains originating from these places after growing there naturally, for God only knows how long, also become accustomed to these climates, and adapt their own life cycles (over the course of generations) to that of their natural environment.
All this having been said. There are generally acceptable ranges for your "avg" cannabis plants, and even more precise ranges for strains we know well
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As always...... It all depends.
Smart pots are thin? I haven't used them, but think I understand the theory and design etc. If they are thinner, they will retain less heat. If they are more porous, then colder air will penetrate the media easier during colder temperatures, and it will release more of its warmer more humid air through the sides of the bottoms rather than normal top layer transpiration you typically see with normal pots.
The media itself, depending upon its components, should hold temperatures in relation to the amount of salts etc. that passes through it as well, though it will only cause slight variations.
You could cut plastic bags and wrap the pots at nighttime to hold warmer ambient air closer to the pots at lights off. Or you could get a small space heater and turn it on at pot level (or even better, just below pot level if possible) on an internal thermostat.
Another thing to keep in mind when it comes to media temps..... is the indigenous location of the strains, and their natural climate cycles. Depending on the natural climate conditions of the plants origin climates, some strains might "expect" a colder media through out flower as apposed to that of the vegetative season. Or in other words. In the different places in the world that landrace strains come from, it is to be understood that some areas are more temperate than others, more tropical, more polar extreme, and thus, the strains originating from these places after growing there naturally, for God only knows how long, also become accustomed to these climates, and adapt their own life cycles (over the course of generations) to that of their natural environment.
All this having been said. There are generally acceptable ranges for your "avg" cannabis plants, and even more precise ranges for strains we know well
.As always...... It all depends
.
Drella
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gardener's dilema, not enough soil, and freaking tired. i feel youre pain there brother!Thank you mucho!
oh shit... its three in the morning!
Anyways.......
Transplanted 7 rooted PK clones into 1 gallon pots. Transplanted 5 rooted Chemo Cindy clones into 1 gallon pots. Everything in veg got watered. Just about all of the other cuttings will be ready to be transplanted into their first cups in the next couple of days. I ran out of soil...... going to have to get more with a quickness! Im running out of pots again as well..... so I have to go pick up some more....... I really could transplant Most of the cuttings/clones now..... but Im freakin Tired!
wonderblunder
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Thanks TLD. Defintely shed some light. Smart Pots are fairly thin 1/8th" felt like material. I have a corrugated mat underneath them to allow airflow, And the media is Coco Coir w/ 30% Perlite added.
theloadeddragon
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.........
just to set it aside for a moment...... and let it rest in the mix where it falls..... to focus on things that would seem irrelevant, but is oh so dear to the subject at hand....
To me there is so much more.....
That I overwhelm myself..... and now more then ever so......
That I need guidance, a mentor, and some serious help.....
That I wish my phase of suppression over..... and succumb to the undeniable truth that I cannot do it alone......
But who has been there? Who will go there? And what must I do?
For in a world of so many, so few know to be true the path before them, and even less know well the experience, desire, and character necessary to complete such tasks.... let alone be aware and still humble of having them within.....
I must admit my frailty, my naivety, my ambitious faults. I must admit my fear, my conformity, my suppression. I must make it well known, that I am confused, lost of my own accord, and stumbling, dreary and naked. I am but a child in a supermarket as always.
The potential is there. And as always I am still reaching out. But who shall clasp it? There is more that is meant to be. Of this I am sure. That a turning point has been reached, I am sure. That I am so full of questions, and scared of their answers, that I remain resolute with confidence in hope, that I am aware of such undertakings and their implications. I do not shy responsibility, but rather, should be educated of its prosperous handling.
And to you J.K Rowling: Thank you. My plants and family would thank you in years to come. were they to know.
just to set it aside for a moment...... and let it rest in the mix where it falls..... to focus on things that would seem irrelevant, but is oh so dear to the subject at hand....
To me there is so much more.....
That I overwhelm myself..... and now more then ever so......
That I need guidance, a mentor, and some serious help.....
That I wish my phase of suppression over..... and succumb to the undeniable truth that I cannot do it alone......
But who has been there? Who will go there? And what must I do?
For in a world of so many, so few know to be true the path before them, and even less know well the experience, desire, and character necessary to complete such tasks.... let alone be aware and still humble of having them within.....
I must admit my frailty, my naivety, my ambitious faults. I must admit my fear, my conformity, my suppression. I must make it well known, that I am confused, lost of my own accord, and stumbling, dreary and naked. I am but a child in a supermarket as always.
The potential is there. And as always I am still reaching out. But who shall clasp it? There is more that is meant to be. Of this I am sure. That a turning point has been reached, I am sure. That I am so full of questions, and scared of their answers, that I remain resolute with confidence in hope, that I am aware of such undertakings and their implications. I do not shy responsibility, but rather, should be educated of its prosperous handling.
And to you J.K Rowling: Thank you. My plants and family would thank you in years to come. were they to know.
Drella
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hell yeah loaded, great advice about putting a plastic bag around pots to retain heat. i wanted to get those smart pots, but if it's a felt like material, idk. sounds like its pretty airy. wonder, if your using coco and perilite, this would explain if there is a stunt, good luck. good facts on those smart pots though, helps me make a better decision if i wanna pick some up.
theloadeddragon
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Time to take cuttings from the Blue Dream mother and put her into flower. Time to put the PK into flower. Time to put the Silverbacks into flower.
1st batch PK clones veggin
2nd batch is settlin in for a couple days, then starts veg.
Transplanting time!
Almost time to transplant and pinch FIM the seedlings, they will show sex shortly after recovering from it
Time for things to move more quickly in the journal. Time to finish prepping for phase 2. Time to Clean the veg room. Time to win the war against the spidermites in the flower room.
I suppose maybe it would have sufficed to say "time to get busy"
have a good evening will you?
1st batch PK clones veggin
2nd batch is settlin in for a couple days, then starts veg.
Transplanting time!
Almost time to transplant and pinch FIM the seedlings, they will show sex shortly after recovering from it
Time for things to move more quickly in the journal. Time to finish prepping for phase 2
. Time to Clean the veg room. Time to win the war against the spidermites in the flower room.I suppose maybe it would have sufficed to say "time to get busy"
have a good evening will you?
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