i say that with hostility cuz when i first joined those guys acted hella cool and made it sound like they were the reason this site was running the way it was and acted like they were the cure for everything i dont mean to step on anyone elses opinion or they're willingness to help i just think its messed up when you set a precedence somewhere for helping people and setting up a community then dip out. it seems like they're used to be a hell of a lot more people out there willing to help on this website and now its just gone downhill. sorry if i offended anyone with my hostility normally a submissive person but some things get to me more than others.