Will I Burn An Apartment Down?
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Stoneyjim
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you wont burn your apartment down as long as you use specal heat resistant cable which will cost you about £2 a meter for good stuff you can buy it at any electric store but i have a feeling you might overload the power socket so youl have to change the fuse but it all depends what country your in if i were you id double check the max watt amp and voltige you can put through power socket. But seriously make sur you get the heat resistant cable or you WILL burn your house down i know im an apprentice electrician and my dads an electrician i was having this convosation with him yesterday as his m8 had to go and find the cuase of a burnt down house, turned ou to be a poorly wired up grow room with too much voltige running through the wire which melted the sheething and se his carpet on fire :/
blaze1camp
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maybe the 2 or just the 1 with fans and anything else on that maybe running on the same line...
vaporsmoke
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dude i would say that is a bit ambitious, unless your are an electrician. my advise is to use either the 1000w system or the 600w system but not both at the same time. even if u did get both the systems wired up SAFELY the electric to run that would be through the roof, and if u cant pay your electric bill on time that is when company's get suspicious and they start investigations......is your grow for personal consumption? how many plants do u need to grow?
blaze1camp
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no to put it blunt...lol
vaporsmoke
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dude i would say that 40-60 plants in an appartment is to much. u need at least 100w per plant to get good yeilds of stunning bud u would need AT LEAST 3000w for 40 plants...if they dont get enough lumens your buds will be airy and light...my advise is to grow 10 plants under 1000w getting bigger yeilds off individual plants, rather than growing more plants with less lumens.......hope it helps m8
vaporsmoke
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even if u were to split them up they still would'nt be getting enough lumen with the lights u have mentioned, my personal opinion is that 40 plants is to meny for an appartment.... more lumen bigger and better buds. but hey that is just my opinion it is totally up to u m8. at the end of the day it is all trial and error.
Straight up G
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haha depends how much you spend [op]
Straight up G
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ya money I am talking about ghetto rigging your grow and wireing yourself etc etc take much more care with a grow than any other appliance because if it does burn down good luck getting paid out on insurance lol
captain insaneo
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if you did a sog with shit loads of tiny plants 40 is not unreasonable, my suggestion is go vertical, with 3x600 or 3x400 and run your moms under flouros,
if you absolutely must run that amount of amperage here are a couple of suggestions, get some THICK low gauge number extension cords (10 is better than 16) if you cant find those you can make your own by getting higher gauge ones and splicing 2 in parallel. this is not UL approved but will work if done right. The other thing you could do is see if your land lord would let you pay an electrician to put in another breaker to that room(odds are you will have to make up a good excuse for that one). also talk to your local hydro shop they might have some ideas.
If you go to http://www.verticalgreen.org/ there are guys arguing over 140 or 80 plants for a grow in an ecosystem.
the long and the short of it is a good set up no matter what method will yield about 1 gram per watt per cycle, a great run will be 1.5 g/watt, decent would be .7g/watt so. How much are you trying to get out of your run/ cycle? if you had the most awesome setup with the watts you were talking about you would only get a max of 3.3KG(more likely around 2 kg) per 2-3 month flower cycle, weather you split that up weekly, bi-weekly...
so i would back track and say how much do i need (in grams) and then multiply that by .8 that will tell you how many watts of light you need.
In theory you should be able to get a constant load of 12 amps no problem through a 15a breaker this means that 12amps x 120 volts= 1440 total watts you should easily get the problem is motors can sometimes pull double or triple the amperage upon start up causing the circuit to blow.
if you have 20 amp breakers you could get get about 16 standing giving you about 1920 watts (still not enough for your 2200 goal)
If you find your self popping the breaker run your fans on the extension cord not the lights if possible.
If you had in apartment washer and dryers you might be able to snag a 220 line and that could be your ticket to the watts you desire.
good luck and dont worry about fires unless you tape down the circuit breaker switches (that is a dumb fucking idea)
if you absolutely must run that amount of amperage here are a couple of suggestions, get some THICK low gauge number extension cords (10 is better than 16) if you cant find those you can make your own by getting higher gauge ones and splicing 2 in parallel. this is not UL approved but will work if done right. The other thing you could do is see if your land lord would let you pay an electrician to put in another breaker to that room(odds are you will have to make up a good excuse for that one). also talk to your local hydro shop they might have some ideas.
If you go to http://www.verticalgreen.org/ there are guys arguing over 140 or 80 plants for a grow in an ecosystem.
the long and the short of it is a good set up no matter what method will yield about 1 gram per watt per cycle, a great run will be 1.5 g/watt, decent would be .7g/watt so. How much are you trying to get out of your run/ cycle? if you had the most awesome setup with the watts you were talking about you would only get a max of 3.3KG(more likely around 2 kg) per 2-3 month flower cycle, weather you split that up weekly, bi-weekly...
so i would back track and say how much do i need (in grams) and then multiply that by .8 that will tell you how many watts of light you need.
In theory you should be able to get a constant load of 12 amps no problem through a 15a breaker this means that 12amps x 120 volts= 1440 total watts you should easily get the problem is motors can sometimes pull double or triple the amperage upon start up causing the circuit to blow.
if you have 20 amp breakers you could get get about 16 standing giving you about 1920 watts (still not enough for your 2200 goal)
If you find your self popping the breaker run your fans on the extension cord not the lights if possible.
If you had in apartment washer and dryers you might be able to snag a 220 line and that could be your ticket to the watts you desire.
good luck and dont worry about fires unless you tape down the circuit breaker switches (that is a dumb fucking idea)
captain insaneo
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10000 RMS means the total amount that could flow through that box is 10,000 root mean squared (it is a mathematical average method for square waves). the question you need to answer is does the breaker to the room say 15 or 20 on it
also do any other rooms say 15 or 20 can you hire an electrician to run another circuit to the room you want to grow in.
also do any other rooms say 15 or 20 can you hire an electrician to run another circuit to the room you want to grow in.
captain insaneo
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sorry guys but we are all over thinking it
if you are just using your HIDs for flowering split them on opposite 12/12 cycles or better 11.75/12.25 cycles (so as not to have both on at once) and run your moms on flouros that way you wont be pulling any more than 1200watts from lights at any given time. and you wont have any tell tell 12 hr energy peaks!
sometimes the simplest answer alludes for far to long. all you need to do is buy another timer
if you are just using your HIDs for flowering split them on opposite 12/12 cycles or better 11.75/12.25 cycles (so as not to have both on at once) and run your moms on flouros that way you wont be pulling any more than 1200watts from lights at any given time. and you wont have any tell tell 12 hr energy peaks!
sometimes the simplest answer alludes for far to long. all you need to do is buy another timer
captain792000
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electrician here, the answer to your question is...no, you wont burn the place down but you will blow a fuse or trip the breaker.
If the 2 ourlets your talking about are in the same room, then more than likely they are on the same circuit (20 amp fuse or breaker).
A 20 amp circuit is rated fo around 2300 watts max(I think). So if those 2 outlets are the only outlets on the whole circuit (which I highly doubt) then you would be maxed out right off the bat with just your lighting.
Is your breaker box in your apartment, if so, Id suggest adding a 20 amp breaker to the box, that way you could have a designated circuit just for your lighting for your grow.....good luck....
If the 2 ourlets your talking about are in the same room, then more than likely they are on the same circuit (20 amp fuse or breaker).
A 20 amp circuit is rated fo around 2300 watts max(I think). So if those 2 outlets are the only outlets on the whole circuit (which I highly doubt) then you would be maxed out right off the bat with just your lighting.
Is your breaker box in your apartment, if so, Id suggest adding a 20 amp breaker to the box, that way you could have a designated circuit just for your lighting for your grow.....good luck....