Gay or not?

[upnorth2505]

What the hell is wrong with some of the tokers today?

Guess I'm a jaded hippie, although I never identified as such.

So GLTB people have become the "whipping boy" of the conservative right.

It is no longer acceptable to hate blacks, foreigners, jews, and others. And it shouldn't be. Just like it should not be acceptable to hate gays folks.

What ever happened to the live-and-let-live of the toker community? I guess it never existed. Many are now the money grubbing, selfish, indulgent, hateful people that used to be reviled. They like to point fingers and blame. What they wont do is take a close look at themselves and their bankrupt value systems.

So I say to all you GLBT haters out there:

Us gay tokers need our own space on this board! Maybe not just for gays, but for open-minded "community" chat space. Moderators, what do you think??

 

[doc111]

What the hell is wrong with some of the tokers today?

Guess I'm a jaded hippie, although I never identified as such.

So GLTB people have become the "whipping boy" of the conservative right.

It is no longer acceptable to hate blacks, foreigners, jews, and others. And it shouldn't be. Just like it should not be acceptable to hate gays folks.

What ever happened to the live-and-let-live of the toker community? I guess it never existed. Many are now the money grubbing, selfish, indulgent, hateful people that used to be reviled. They like to point fingers and blame. What they wont do is take a close look at themselves and their bankrupt value systems.

So I say to all you GLBT haters out there:

Us gay tokers need our own space on this board! Maybe not just for gays, but for open-minded "community" chat space. Moderators, what do you think??

I'm not sure why you're pointing the finger at conservatives. How do you know that the people hating on you in this thread are conservative? And honestly I don't see anybody really hating. Most people are being fairly supportive. A couple have expressed a little disgust but who gives a shit. You've been gay for like a week and you're already talking about how conservatives are attacking you for being gay. Nobody cares bro. Good for you. You are gonna always have people who won't accept it or are gonna be dicks but you just have to ignore it. I'm sure there are plenty of liberals who don't care for homosexuality too. Now stop whining and be who you are. That's all you can do.

 

[qptyqpty]

LOL funny when people cant make a viable point or support their own beliefs, they resort to name-calling.

Therefore any argument i've made has made its point. Those stuck in 3rd grade, im not concerned about.

Watch it in the woods though.

 

[fitch303]

A dude putting his dick in another dudes ass is gross, being conservative or not has nothing to do with it. Make sure you play safe though

 

[doc111]

Read this:


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/ynews_ts1066

 

[howhighru]

I was recently getting baked with a guy I have known for a few years. Not a real close friend, more of an aquentence. Anyway we were watching some porn when all of a sudden he asked me if I wanted my cock sucked . I was really horny, but I said no. He told me that I did not have to do anything, so I wouldn't be "gay". I really like women, but ever since then I have been thinking about it. I don't have anything against gays either. So should I let him suck my cock or not. I would really like to hear from some guys if this has ever happened to them.

Go for it..Thats HOT...lol

 

[mr.red]

Reminds me of a study I saw on tv a bit ago.. after looking it up here is the jist of it:

Another study done by Simon LeVay focused on the size of INAH3 nucleus of the hypothalamus. He wanted to test whether the areas INAH-2 and INAH3 in the nucleus were different in size not by sex, but by sexual orientation. By proving a difference in size, he could establish that the brains of gay men were similar to that of women's brains. He only found that INAH-2 exhibited difference in sexual orientation. It was two times larger in heterosexual men as homosexual men, and he concluded it was different because of sexual orientation, not because of a difference in sex.

honestly whether it is a choice or not I don't care

just let people be who they are

 

[T905]

first off . i think its werid chillin wit a gay guy in the first place. second if he asked me to suck my cock id Flip. id tell him to get out right away. non of that shit mang if yu wanted yur dick suckd go get it from a girl.... or the reason you thinking of letting him suck u off cuz u cant find a girl? im not to sure about ur situation but god damn. thats the gay'est thing i heard. having thoughts of letting a guy suck yu off. common its cool wen its 2 girls ya digg? but fuk GUYS+GUYS ARE NOT MEANT TO BE ITS FUCKING ADAM AND EVE NOT FUCKING ADAM AND STEVE

 

[JN811]

what the hell is wrong with some of the tokers today?

Guess i'm a jaded hippie, although i never identified as such.

So gltb people have become the "whipping boy" of the conservative right.

It is no longer acceptable to hate blacks, foreigners, jews, and others. And it shouldn't be. Just like it should not be acceptable to hate gays folks.

What ever happened to the live-and-let-live of the toker community? I guess it never existed. Many are now the money grubbing, selfish, indulgent, hateful people that used to be reviled. They like to point fingers and blame. What they wont do is take a close look at themselves and their bankrupt value systems.

So i say to all you glbt haters out there:

us gay tokers need our own space on this board! maybe not just for gays, but for open-minded "community" chat space. Moderators, what do you think??

lmao im glad youre finally admitting it

 

[T905]

ill reply again ITS ADAM AND EVE NO ADAM AND STEVE

 

[Murfy]

What the hell is wrong with some of the tokers today?

Guess I'm a jaded hippie, although I never identified as such.

So GLTB people have become the "whipping boy" of the conservative right.

It is no longer acceptable to hate blacks, foreigners, jews, and others. And it shouldn't be. Just like it should not be acceptable to hate gays folks.

What ever happened to the live-and-let-live of the toker community? I guess it never existed. Many are now the money grubbing, selfish, indulgent, hateful people that used to be reviled. They like to point fingers and blame. What they wont do is take a close look at themselves and their bankrupt value systems.

So I say to all you GLBT haters out there:

Us gay tokers need our own space on this board! Maybe not just for gays, but for open-minded "community" chat space. Moderators, what do you think??

and there it is-the crux!

 

[Murfy]

rollie??????????-----------////////////////??????????????????
we need a gay section
LOLOLOLOL-----hahhahhhaaaaaaaaaaahahhahhahahaaaaaaaaaaaha
there's always an angle
isn't there a group for this on yahoo or something
upnorth you are queer as a three dollar bill

 

[Johnnyorganic]

ill reply again ITS ADAM AND EVE NO ADAM AND STEVE

You can say it all day long. But it does not change the fact there is nothing wrong with homosexuality.

If that is the way someone is wired, you can't change it. Nor should you try.

Live and let live, Dude.

I do find it humorous you have no heartburn over girl on girl, while guy on guy apparently turns your stomach.

 

[upnorth2505]

You can say it all day long. But it does not change the fact there is nothing wrong with homosexuality.

If that is the way someone is wired, you can't change it. Nor should you try.

Live and let live, Dude.

I do find it humorous you have no heartburn over girl on girl, while guy on guy apparently turns your stomach.

Wow, cool dude. Thanks. To get off tangent on DOC111's post, if other republicans were like McCain's wife, I'd have no problem voting for them. I do not mean to bring down all conservatives. I am fiscally conservative, don't like to be taxed to shit, don't like to see my tax dollars go to people who do not deserve it.

I have worked hard and paid taxes all my life. I just want what most people want: a decent life and the American Dream.

That might be trite to some, but really, that is all I want. I have lived the American Dream. Owned a small business, employed people, owned a house, etc.

Unfortunately, I lost it all at the start of the recession. I am not blaming anyone. I think to some degree, we are all responsible for the state of the economy now: people living beyond their means, and Wall Street out-of-control. I owned stock, guess that makes me quilty.

Anyway, is it too much to ask that a hard working, tax paying guy be treated like the decent person he is? Some (mostly wing nuts) conservatives think I do not deserve to be treated like a human being.

To those that disagree, I can only say try standing in my shoes. I can also say I am begining to get impatient with the Dems and Obama.

But, I can never vote for a party/movement that does not denounce hate.

Sorry to get side tracked here. This is supposed to be about gay stuff. To those folks that are conservative that don't hate my guts, live long and prosper (lol). That's a joke. I am serious.

 

[mr.red]

adam and eve = not real

 

[Johnnyorganic]

Wow, cool dude. Thanks. To get off tangent on DOC111's post, if other republicans were like McCain's wife, I'd have no problem voting for them. I do not mean to bring down all conservatives. I am fiscally conservative, don't like to be taxed to shit, don't like to see my tax dollars go to people who do not deserve it.

I have worked hard and paid taxes all my life. I just want what most people want: a decent life and the American Dream.

That might be trite to some, but really, that is all I want. I have lived the American Dream. Owned a small business, employed people, owned a house, etc.

Unfortunately, I lost it all at the start of the recession. I am not blaming anyone. I think to some degree, we are all responsible for the state of the economy now: people living beyond their means, and Wall Street out-of-control. I owned stock, guess that makes me quilty.

Anyway, is it too much to ask that a hard working, tax paying guy be treated like the decent person he is? Some (mostly wing nuts) conservatives think I do not deserve to be treated like a human being.

To those that disagree, I can only say try standing in my shoes. I can also say I am begining to get impatient with the Dems and Obama.

But, I can never vote for a party/movement that does not denounce hate.

Sorry to get side tracked here. This is supposed to be about gay stuff. To those folks that are conservative that don't hate my guts, live long and prosper (lol). That's a joke. I am serious.

That's why I differentiate between Conservatives and Republicans. On any given issue, I can draw fire from Republicans or Democrats. To me, that gives me a little credibility.

I have relatives who are rural Democrats. They tell me I'm more Liberal than they are on many issues.

I know some gay dudes who are hard core Conservatives. They call themselves FRAGGs (Far Right Angry Gay Guys). They support Conservative principles, but for some reason, the Republican party rejects them.

Republicans really need to get past it, but they won't. The Moral Majority is a steady constituency.

But don't be fooled. A fair number of Democrats do not support gay rights either. They just keep their mouths shut.

 

[upnorth2505]

rollie??????????-----------////////////////??????????????????
we need a gay section
LOLOLOLOL-----hahhahhhaaaaaaaaaaahahhahhahahaaaaaaaaaaaha
there's always an angle
isn't there a group for this on yahoo or something
upnorth you are queer as a three dollar bill

Yeah, so what? I am queer. Big deal.

And no "angle" here. I say what I mean and I mean what I say. And yes, there are gay forums all over the place.

If there was one small section for GLBT here is it really going to matter to you? Or anyone else here for that matter? I love smoking weed and getting stoned and learning to grow. Is it a big deal if a few of us explore who we are and how it relates to the grow/stoner community?

Rollie, if you are reading this do the right thing. In the Cannabis Cafe, how about "Rainbow Tokers" "A place for GLBT to discuss cannabis and its impact on the community."

Rollie, it IS relevent to this site and this forum. Heck, I would say that 75% of gays get stoned anyway. So we should have a place here.

 

[PadawanBater]

What I wanna know is... How is some other persons who I don't know or never met sexuality of any importance to me at all? I hear the arguments about how it decreases the "traditional family values" (whatever those are...) and kids need a man and a woman in each household for healthy child development... but they disregard how plenty of homosexual people grow up in heterosexual households, how heterosexual people grow up in homosexual households, and how no one has ever shown any evidence to suggest any negative side effects with respect to the sexuality of the parents. Not to mention the abstract definition of ''morality'' each individual person has. There is no universally agreed upon definition of what is moral and what isn't, which is actually what this argument is about. People who believe homosexuality is wrong are generally religious, and their religion tells them it's wrong. Can anyone provide an answer to why they feel homosexuality is wrong that is not based on religion? I'd love to hear it.

Though there are atheists who believe homosexuality is wrong too. How do I deal with that seeming contradiction in logic of my previous statements? - yeah, atheists can be bigoted assholes too. SURPRISE!

Another human beings sexual orientation lands on my list of priorities at about the same level as cotton balls.

 

[sarah22]

You can say it all day long. But it does not change the fact there is nothing wrong with homosexuality.

If that is the way someone is wired, you can't change it. Nor should you try.

Live and let live, Dude.

I do find it humorous you have no heartburn over girl on girl, while guy on guy apparently turns your stomach.

well said. +rep *passes bowl*

 

[sarah22]

What I wanna know is... How is some other persons who I don't know or never met sexuality of any importance to me at all? I hear the arguments about how it decreases the "traditional family values" (whatever those are...) and kids need a man and a woman in each household for healthy child development... but they disregard how plenty of homosexual people grow up in heterosexual households, how heterosexual people grow up in homosexual households, and how no one has ever shown any evidence to suggest any negative side effects with respect to the sexuality of the parents. Not to mention the abstract definition of ''morality'' each individual person has. There is no universally agreed upon definition of what is moral and what isn't, which is actually what this argument is about. People who believe homosexuality is wrong are generally religious, and their religion tells them it's wrong. Can anyone provide an answer to why they feel homosexuality is wrong that is not based on religion? I'd love to hear it.

Though there are atheists who believe homosexuality is wrong too. How do I deal with that seeming contradiction in logic of my previous statements? - yeah, atheists can be bigoted assholes too. SURPRISE!

Another human beings sexual orientation lands on my list of priorities at about the same level as cotton balls.

+rep to you too particularly this point "Another human beings sexual orientation lands on my list of priorities at about the same level as cotton balls."