Irish outdoor grow 2010 ( Question )

BIGBUDDZ

BIGBUDDZ

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Ok hey aint been on here in a good while but as you should no i did a grow outdoors in ireland this year but it didnt work as i planted too late. But for next year i want to be prepared so here are some questions i have,

1. What is the strongest outdoor autoflowering seeds i can buy? ( I no lowryder but i hear its not great )
2. I was thinking of digging a hole and filling it with 60% pearlite and 40% compost soil. Will this be ok? As it is wet here and dont want anything to go wrong.
3. What nutes could i use that wouldnt leave a taste at all in the weed?
4. I used water out of my fishtank last time and that worked well would you suggest that i use that aswell as the nutes?
5. What is the earliest i can plant in ireland without no risk of plants dying?
6. Should i plant them under a tree or out in the open?
7. Would dead grass help the grow process at all? And also i heard used tea bags are good for the plant aswell? Is this true?

I have more questions but want to find these out first just to be sure not to fry all your stoner heads :shock: Haha anyway no hurry with answers just want to be sure so i can have it all ready for next year as i plan to plant about 20-30 plants in various locations. Peace out potheads =D BIGBUDDZ
 
BIGBUDDZ

BIGBUDDZ

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No one got any insight into this? Im still a newbie to thisso need all the help i can get..
 
chronic coinoisseur

chronic coinoisseur

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1. I have heard of an ak-47 autoflower which was very good. Whatever you pick make sure it is mold resistant because it sounds like you live in a wet climate
2.That would be fine for a soil mix as long as its perlite and not vermiculite. I also hear very good things about vics super soil(look it up)
3.Nutes wont effect the taste of the bud almost at all as long as you do a proper flush, if your worried about a chemical taste grow organic. Like i suggested earlier hear very good things about vics super soil, its all organic and all the nutes are time release so there wouldnt be need for constant fertilizing visits.
4.No clue about the water out of the fishtank i wouldnt risk it myself but do what works for you.
5.Plant 2 weeks after last expected frost and if your transplanting it helps the shock if you do it on a cloudy day.
6.Under a tree they will be less noticable but will receive a lot less sunlight. I would put them out in the open but near some bushes not just in a field. Try to make them receive the maximum amount of sunlight while still blending into the surroundings.
7.Dead grass as a top dress would add a small amount of nitrogen and a weed supressant but would also prevent water from evaporating from the soil which could be a problem if like you said you live in a wet climate. No clue about the tea bags.

if i were you i would dig a bunch of holes mix with compost a bunch of perlite and slow release nutes like bone meal, blood meal, kelp meal, peat moss, dolomite lime worm castings etc. If feeding normal chemical nutrients stop feeding about 1-2 weeks before harvest and just feed plain water up until harvest.
 
Jay_normous

Jay_normous

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irishweedsmoker said:
hi
im in ireland aswell and plannin on a outdoor grow when is best time to plant seed.
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seed at home and then transplant outdoors once the last frost has gone... normally around second week of April..

You'll wanna be looking at plots for your grow and getting the soil ready for your plants..I.e. Turning over top soil and mix with slow release ferts or organic ferts..

Found a good few spots today on just a short walk...

Hoping this thread will pick up as this is the time to start the whole process.. unless auto flowering..
 
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sucky#

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Hi all,am hoping to do a grow in a park land in the west this year!it will be my first time and i think i have a good spot found.going down during the week to get the ground ready...tips?im thinking of load of cow shit and compost for a start.I was thinking of top 44 or purple power?and if i plant these 'auto flowering plants' when will they be ready?also thinking of germ them inside and planting them outside then......??????
 
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sucky#

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well......bought some purple power seeds and am getting the site ready.anyone ever grow purple power in ireland??how'd ya get on then?? whats the story with this vermiculite??good stuff?bad stuff?its just i bought a bag of it and am wondering weather to mix it through my compost or not??thanks dudes:)
 
Jay_normous

Jay_normous

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sucky# said:
well......bought some purple power seeds and am getting the site ready.anyone ever grow purple power in ireland??how'd ya get on then?? whats the story with this vermiculite??good stuff?bad stuff?its just i bought a bag of it and am wondering weather to mix it through my compost or not??thanks dudes:)
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Vermiculite is fine but Perlite is better..

Vermiculite is for more seedlings and cloning, does the same job as perlite but not as good.. I'd defo use it mate.. Anything that can retain water is good..
 
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sucky#

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thanks for that....i'll defo get some more perlite as i'll need it cause i'm planting in fish boxes so they wont be getting any water naturally....been getting the site ready now for the past few nights now,though work bringing fish boxes,gravel for drainage,compost and horse manure.over a half mile away from where i can park and down through a swampy forest!fingers crossed no one finds it!:s..........how often shuold i be watering these plants now when they start to grow??there will be a nice bit of perlite mixed in through the compost also...???
 
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sucky#

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ok back again!....put 10 seeds in a lunch box,wet tissue,airing cuboard......after 2 days 4 had sprouted and put them in pots on the window sill and after another 2 days another 2 had sprouted and done the same with them,after 4 days i think i moved them to their outdoor site in a little greenhouse.went down to them this morning to plant another seed that had sprouted and check them for water,their first water in 3 days and they seem fine,plenty of perlite mixed in with the compost.did anyone ever water their plants at night time or would this be ok......any info for me??thanks....smoke on.....
 
rocksteady6

rocksteady6

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Just to clear something up that was mentioned earlier which i believe is incorrect. Perlite and vermiculite are not the same thing. Not even close. Perlite will allow water to run through it much, much quicker than vermiculite. Just google water retention and both of them and you will see. Vermiculite retains water well and perlite is great for airation. For a very wet climate i would say use some perlite. Vermiculite is good if you forget to water or rain doesnt happen often. Pretty sure you got shit advice before.
 
Jay_normous

Jay_normous

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rocksteady6 said:
Just to clear something up that was mentioned earlier which i believe is incorrect. Perlite and vermiculite are not the same thing. Not even close. Perlite will allow water to run through it much, much quicker than vermiculite. Just google water retention and both of them and you will see. Vermiculite retains water well and perlite is great for airation. For a very wet climate i would say use some perlite. Vermiculite is good if you forget to water or rain doesnt happen often. Pretty sure you got shit advice before.
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Both retain water, so how are they different...????
 
rocksteady6

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Jay_normous said:
Both retain water, so how are they different...????
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Almost anything retains water to a certain extent. Perlite vastly improves airation and water runs through it and it also dries far quicker than vermiculite. For starting seeds perlite is great, as long as you water enough. Perlite, after the heating process, has a huge surface area meaning that the water also evapourates of its surface very quickly where as vermiculite is like a sponge and aborbs it. Here is a direct quote from an experiment done by people smarter than me

"Anno and Agar determined the ability to absorb water of both Perlite and Vermiculite. Agar soaked each 1 cup of medium grade perlite and vermiculite in water for 5 minutes, then drained for 5 minutes. They weighed both of the materials before and after the process.

It turns out that perlite absorbs 1.14 times its weight in water, whereas vermiculite absorbs 3.54 times its weight in water.

This means that vermiculite absorbs ~3 times as much water per weight as perlite.
Taking volume as basis, vermiculite absorbs ~2.2 times as much water per volume as perlite.

So do you agree now they are not anywhere near the same thing?
 
Jay_normous

Jay_normous

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rocksteady6 said:
Almost anything retains water to a certain extent. Perlite vastly improves airation and water runs through it and it also dries far quicker than vermiculite. For starting seeds perlite is great, as long as you water enough. Perlite, after the heating process, has a huge surface area meaning that the water also evapourates of its surface very quickly where as vermiculite is like a sponge and aborbs it. Here is a direct quote from an experiment done by people smarter than me

"Anno and Agar determined the ability to absorb water of both Perlite and Vermiculite. Agar soaked each 1 cup of medium grade perlite and vermiculite in water for 5 minutes, then drained for 5 minutes. They weighed both of the materials before and after the process.

It turns out that perlite absorbs 1.14 times its weight in water, whereas vermiculite absorbs 3.54 times its weight in water.

This means that vermiculite absorbs ~3 times as much water per weight as perlite.
Taking volume as basis, vermiculite absorbs ~2.2 times as much water per volume as perlite.

So do you agree now they are not anywhere near the same thing?
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But them both still retaining water not the same???
I was simply anwsering a question without going in to all the point decimel stuff..
 
Jay_normous

Jay_normous

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O.k. So anyone started their out door grow...?

I've not, I haven't even prepered a patch anywhere..

I was kindda hoping of just planting them randomly..
 
Jay_normous

Jay_normous

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ELGRINGO said:
Ive a Nirvana shortrider growing atm, im usein a fish tank also its quality as it acts like a mini green house cheak this man i hope to harvest thi mofo in a month. Im thinkin of starting some purple power or Hollands hope as these are good in irish climates skunk red hair is also good and mould resistant, its ready in october. heres my SR :
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Cool idea with the fish tank.. Thumbs up man...
 
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