third dimension (3D) growers, what can i expect?

resinraider

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Hey guys. So I got a 3D bush goin now. I origianly ordered pandoras box but they were outta stock and sent my 3D instead(wasn't really a strain I was too interested in) anyways, its been sexed and she's growing very well, the best 1 in my veg room. Anyways, am I gonna be happy with this strain? Any tips or info u can give would be great, like taste, yeild, smell, aprox price for oz(here dank kush and deisel goes for like 240) so what could I get for properly grown 3D? cloning difficulties and tricks? Anything else u wanna include or pics would be awesome. Thnx cheers
 

Platipy

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what company you order from, i would be kind of pissed. not saying third dimension is bad, looks good from my research, but they sent you different seeds that is lame
 

subcool

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Agreed but thy sent me a bunch of free seeds cuza it. So bak to my OP? Any1 wanna give an input
What would happen if we combined the genes of three ultra potent Elite strains all with very different flavors but similar high types? This is the question I set out to answer when creating our new release “The Third Dimension”. The strain Apollo-13 has long been a favorite of mine and many other collectors, it has a very unusual taste and an amazing high. Only 500 of these seeds were ever produced and those lucky enough to grow her never let her go. I have focused a good deal of my breeding efforts in back crossing her looking for the best make up to create an Apollo like hybrid in seed form. We have out crossed her with Black Russian, Space Queen and Now a Combination of SQ and Jacks Cleaner. The second part of the make up is Space Queen a BCGA hybrid of Romulan and Cindy99 and delicious cross with a candy/mango flavor.
The final part of this potent three way is of course my famed Jacks Cleaner mom. If it sounds complicated it was and also a lot of work but thanks to the great people at Heads you will be the first to hear about the project.

Having had great success with our cross Jack the Ripper (JC X SQ) we decided to work with a male and pollinate the Apollo as we also use her to test a males attributes in a known cross. This means we have made a lot of hybrids using her and by growing out her off spring we can determine if he is a good male or not lending either potency and or a different flavor. Once the seeds were mature and removed from the buds I allow the outer husk to dry for 2 weeks and then I refrigerate them for 2 nights stimulating winter, this also removes moisture as well. I am going to try something a bit differently here and pretend I am your average Joe Stoner growing some plants and only having room to start 2 seeds. This will narrow my odds considerably getting a keeper mom but it’s the same real world choices you guys make everyday when it comes to making some head stash of quality meds. I started the seeds in Rapid rooters and transplanted once they established roots. The plants grew very well and under a 400 watt MH grew up fast, I was able to sex one of these at least a full 2 weeks earlier than the other, well that question has been answered and started just 2 seeds we have had great luck and have 2 females. They’re starting to mature enough that there taking on noticeable characteristics. I don’t see a huge difference in the two plants and at 30 days they look pretty much alike.

I am happy so far with this initial run and I can see traits from both mother and father. I mentioned one reason for this cross is to learn how dominant the JTR father we have chosen is going to be. JC parents are known to dominate crosses and Apollo-13 is or base line female since I have grown it out so many times and now also bred with her working this sibling cross will give me a good indication of how the father will react with other moms with use. The plants were transplanted into 5 gallon containers and topped to form a nice bush and when they hit 24” in height they were budded.
These are the signs I am looking for,
Early resin with fast formation of trichome heads and quick maturation of same. This will indicate a Apollo-13 dominant trait. Also I am looking for the weird funk/spice smell A-13 has to shine through and I have that as well. Now I am not testing the strain so much as running it for my own pleasure but while I am at it I will take notes on things to look for in larger generations. One day we will select either Vortex or The Third Dimension to keep as a main TGA strain but for now we can all enjoy the journey. It’s no secret I am a big fan of what Mr Soul did and I am just playing along following the path he blazed.
The shorter female I am extremely excited about having started only 2 seeds and finding an Apollo dominant female means to me anyone getting a pack has a very good chance of it as well. At day 28 she already smells like Apollo momma, heavy resin and short structure with thicker stems is dead on target I couldn’t wait to see what the second half of bud growth brings to us.


Day 35 and beyond



You never stop learning and the biggest leap forward in knowledge has been working closely with both Apollo and JC as well as the man plant Space Dude. We are learning what is locked inside the JTR male visually at first and by this point by fragrance. First off. The Apollo dominant female we call Jane is spot on the mark with A-13 looks and traits with a beefier frame and an added sweet I can’t place yet. Maybe from the Cindy but I was hoping for this exact make up in a female.


At 35 days you can see trichomes that are fully amber just like with A-13 and most are fully formed so were taking speed from the mom and the Bi-father SQ. I added support stakes after this shoot but I could have gone longer A-13 won’t stand up at all at this stage and that alone is a huge plus. I will of course stay on top of this so we can see what we have created. I am also happy to announce that unlike some of our gear this is a Sub project and you won’t see it going away of running out of stock. Just the outcross of JC x SQ and then selecting a male took over a year I don’t plan on loosing my male.


The sativa Dominant female is starting to pack on the buds though and this girl may get huge and hopefully not take forever. She stretched like crazy and I was sure at this point based on smell and resin build up, the buzz will be very speedy with high THC content with virtually no CBD’s, the taste to me is kinda metallic to go along with the spicy smell.

As the Indica reached maturity she took on very tropical smells almost like a Pina Colada or some other frozen drink containing fruits and pineapple. The resin continued to expend and she matured very rapidly. I took her at about day 50 and she was just dripping with resin and gave up 2 ounces of dried cured buds. For a plant not even 36” tall finished I am happy with the results and will keep her in my garden.
Here are my smoke notes
Toke 1#
Sampling very small micro nugs so they will be dry. Inhale is smooth and reminds me of a passion fruit drink I used to get in summer camp. Exhale is smooth and also surprisingly sweet. Instant lobe floating and I started smiling the second I exhaled.
Toke #2
Large inhale and crosses my eyes.
Excuse me one second
Subcool does the happy dance across the Room “IT TASTE GOOD! I am getting High!
Ok that’s what they call a conniption fit I believe.


Toke #3
Our bongs a simple straight glass piece with a large water bin.
I use a simple cheap V shaped 3 hit that I pack about ¾ full and I pull it through in one hit clearing the toob as well. Sticky takes about 3 hits to my one and this is not a diss to Sticky but a reference as to how large a hit I take.
I exhale a cloud


The Buzz on the Indica was soft and pleasant and I sat staring at my pc for quite awhile but I didn’t feel the need for a pot nap but ended up doing a photo shoot. I found myself smoking a lot of this strain in the following week even though I have full jars of some of my other favorites.


The sativa took a full 9 weeks to mature and as predicted the buzz was very racey and not to my liking however a good friend of mine that loves the energy head buzz of pure like sativas absolutely loves it. Even though the plant was very tall it’s total yield was only 3 ounces. I did a smoke test on this one and found the smoke to be flat as airy buds tend to be but after 3 hits I was soaring along jamming to music and smiling my ass off.
No one would complain about its potency and high but its not up to my standards on taste but variety is the spice of life!

The results of my little “plant 2 seeds” idea went very well and I pulled almost 5 ounces and some amazing bubble hash from these two plants. The Indica has been cloned and topped and is just entering bud as I type this ending. I am happy to give this one my stamp of approval!

The Third Dimension(Smoke Report)
Breeder: TGA Subcool Seeds
Strain: The Third Dimension
Lineage if known: Jc x Space Queen x Apollo
Grower: NorStar
Judge: MR. & Mrs NorStar
Type (sativa/indica ratio): 65/35 or about

EYE APPEAL

<8> Density
<9> Aroma

COMMENTS: Nice spear shaped nugs with thin stems, just the perfect density for scissor cutting. the aroma is one of my favorite as of now citusy-exotic spice-sweet tropic.


Norstar
SMOKE REPORT

<9> Potency
<9> Taste
<8> Smoothness (1 = harsh 10 = smooth)
<4> Indica Influence
<7> Sativa Influence
<1> Effect Onset (1 = immediate 10 = super creeper)
<2-3> Duration (In hours)
<2> Tolerance Buildup (1 = slow 10 = fast)
<9> Overall Satisfaction

COMMENTS: We had a nice morning spliff with our coffee, and it gave me a little sweat after the first tasty puff. My wife commented on the sweet lemony-spice on the dry toke. I notice a pronounced Cardomon,lemon-lime, with a coconut aftertaste, even little hints of curry stick to the sides of my mouth. This is some yummy shit! The joint taste good all the way to the roach, it became less citrus and more spicey-peppery, and the coconut flavor deepens with a hint of for a lack of better words Funk. This had me blasted unable to do anything of real value for about 15-20 minutes, till I leveled out to a nice upbeat, workable high. We have been smoking on this strain for a good 8 months and it still does the trick.

High Description: Up, Slight Confussion, Short Attention span, after 15-20 mins. head cleared out, good motivation,fairly focused. Re medicated two H. later still upbeat high but less confusion in the first 15 min.
Smell: Citrus,Cardomon,Sweet,Coconut
Taste: Lemon-lime,Cardomon,Coconut,pepper,curry,sweet funk
Medical Effects:anti depression
<8> Medicinal Strength

KEEPER?
<!> YES


FINAL COMMENTS: I plan on Keeping this girl for a long time she needs some staking to keep upright, but she is fast,tasty,potent,and very fun. this is one of my favorite smokes in the garden and a stand by for taking on hikes, or fartin' around the yard. I have over-induldged before and she will put you out cold, so puff lightly.
 

resinraider

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Thnx subcool for the well informative response. How old is this strain? If the trichs r amber at day 35, how will I know when it ready to chop? What characteristics should I be looking for to determine whether my plant is indica or sativia dominate? Thnx, RR
 

resinraider

Well-Known Member
Thanx subcool for well informative reply. Sounds like I'm in for a treat. This is my first TGA grow and excited to try other strains from ur line. Ur rite, this plant grows fast! How old is this strain? If the trichs turn amber at day 35, what's my best way to know when she's ready for the chop? What characteristics should I watch for so I know if my plant is indica or sativa dominate? Thnx agn, RR

*edit* sry for the double post, i was on my phone and it doesnt refresh in a timely manor so i wasnt sure if it posted or not
 

srodden1

Member
hey resinraider, i know its a bit off topic, but hows that pipe fdd gave you?
lol

had your poem printed out (hanging in my curing room).

: ]
 

resinraider

Well-Known Member
hey resinraider, i know its a bit off topic, but hows that pipe fdd gave you?
lol

had your poem printed out (hanging in my curing room).

: ]
hahah, really? u printd that out?? wow i am artist!!!! hahah, jk.. the pipes great, looks nice, seems strong and sturdy and smokes great!!! cant ask for more with a free pipe
 

S33K

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I'm currently growing 3D and Jack The Ripper along my super lemon haze and rocklock (not liking this one so far)....My JTR seems to be more indica dominant and was topped at 2' and was very bushy and now in flower (flipped dec 5 2010, so good 4-5 weeks in)....The colas are small but drenched in resin and appear to be dense. The 3D grew the same as my JTR and was also topped at 2' and was very bushy, but after the 12/12 switch showed what appears to me as sativa dominance and cone like miny colas also very resinated, but much less production compared to the JTR.

This is my first grow with these so i havent pushed them hard at all, im trying to see how they grow and what they need. Both started in roots organic soil in 1gall pots, moved to 5gall. Gave 2 veg feedings of Advanced Nutrients sensi grow A&B and B52, and during flower every other watering i gave 1/2 dose AN Sensi Bloom A&B B52 and BigBud. I have some light green leaves and yellowing going on and few lower leaves falling off every day. So next run i'll try to feed heavier in veg and give 1-2 veg feedings once i flip before going to flower nutes. I had vegd for 8-10weeks and will reduce this next grow

over all, both are looking great, and i can't wait for harvest. Oh and a real nice side note: My 3D i thought of ditching after this and getting querkle and another TGA strain as my gf has jillybean, but then in flower one day i noticed my 3D had cute buds growing from a few of the fan leaves and some had one single leave growing out of the fan leave just covered and i mean covered in resin...So i can tell you i got clones and will run her again (oh and 3D cloned very well and grew faster than all my other strains)
 

jjwalker717

Active Member
Bringing this string back from the grave lol. Im currently growing 2 3D's (both ended up female!!). I had a specific question Subcool. Did you grow the two plants under one 400 watt, or did each plant have it's own 400 watt light? Im just wondering so I can gauge my yeilds, I have a 400 over each. Im at day 37 of flowering and its looking amazing and smells sweet. Id definitely recommend this strain
 

subcool

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I grow under 1000 watt lights bro have for almost 12 years now.
Lumens dont add up so no matter how many 400 w bulbs you burn your still looking at like 60,000 lumens if memory serves me correctly and 2 400 watt bulbs are still that same intensity.

A 1000 watt bulb runs in the 140,000 lumen range and even higher using digitals.
Yield is alot more than the bulb the size of the plant entering 12/12 is the largest determining factor.

Sub
 

jjwalker717

Active Member
Hey, I got confused I thought you said you did them under 400 mh. I kept them in veg for about two months, they are both the height of me now and in 10 gallon buckets. Im approaching day 40 but all my trichomes are milky, no amber ones. And why is it specifically that you would chose a 1000 over a 600? Im am honestly very curious to hear this from an experienced grower for It has been confusing me lately. At the closest a 1000 watt can go to a plant (1o inches away), the plant is recieving 64,171 Lumens, while at the closest a 600 can be (8 inches from plant) the plants are receiving 65,890 lumens.
 

SupaM

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Sup Everyone! I'm currently running 3D as well, and would love to know how yours turned out. I'm at day 51, and I'm sure it can go another week or so. I have it under a 600w Digital, in a 7gal, and Super Soil. I have the same triangle shaped colas, but lots of them. The smell and resin production are Ridiculous! She cloned easily, with roots after about 7 days. What day did you guys take yours at? Thanks Sub, she's my first TGA too!
All the Best!
 
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