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GypsyBush
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DG!!!knew you had that green blood in you
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what up Bro!!!!
Good to see you around these parts...
So... do tell me.... how is ebb/flow working for you? and what's NEXT??
I am considering (seriously
) ... building a Vert...
Heath Robinson style.... flooded tubes (dwc/nft)
He got 2.1 g/w out of that thing on his first run... on a single 600...
And it's sort right up my ally...
86 lollies to a 600...What are your thoughts?
https://www.rollitup.org/hydroponics-aeroponics/149998-heaths-flooded-tube-vertical.html
His pics are awesome too....
https://www.rollitup.org/members/heath-robinson-34876-albums.html
lava is next for me.
as far as vert goes... the journals i have followed left me with the impression that vert. is more trouble than it is worth ... unless ur talking growing trees vertically with like one bulb per tree (surrounding the plant with lights rather than surrounding the light with plants).
not that i doubt the setup is highly effective. that frigg'in beehive thing is deffinitely catching all the light... and if ur willing to go big BIG on plant numbers ... at 86 per... while running several of those hives... more power to you. Your location is probably one of the most secure "in the nation". So, have at it. Anyone else and i'd try to talk them down... down to staying below 99 plants / clones total. I still flinch when i read people say that they are planning to grow 100 ... or 200 ... or 400 ... or 1000+ plants... when the legal cutoffs are 99, 199, 399, 999, etc. At least they used to be. No reason to piss off Uncle Sam, in my opinion.
The last page (currently) on my journal, page 88, represents the vert/horizontal dillema pictorially, from my perspective. Most vert growers spend too much time training and tying and vegging their plants into the proper configuration... when that time could have been used for more flowering in a flat setup. The same argument you use for flowering straight from clone. But the beehive setup uses plant numbers to overcome the necessity of vertical veg. time, so i really can't argue against it.
I'm along for the ride no matter how bumpy it gets
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as far as vert goes... the journals i have followed left me with the impression that vert. is more trouble than it is worth ... unless ur talking growing trees vertically with like one bulb per tree (surrounding the plant with lights rather than surrounding the light with plants).
not that i doubt the setup is highly effective. that frigg'in beehive thing is deffinitely catching all the light... and if ur willing to go big BIG on plant numbers ... at 86 per... while running several of those hives... more power to you. Your location is probably one of the most secure "in the nation". So, have at it. Anyone else and i'd try to talk them down... down to staying below 99 plants / clones total. I still flinch when i read people say that they are planning to grow 100 ... or 200 ... or 400 ... or 1000+ plants... when the legal cutoffs are 99, 199, 399, 999, etc. At least they used to be. No reason to piss off Uncle Sam, in my opinion.
The last page (currently) on my journal, page 88, represents the vert/horizontal dillema pictorially, from my perspective. Most vert growers spend too much time training and tying and vegging their plants into the proper configuration... when that time could have been used for more flowering in a flat setup. The same argument you use for flowering straight from clone. But the beehive setup uses plant numbers to overcome the necessity of vertical veg. time, so i really can't argue against it.
I'm along for the ride no matter how bumpy it gets
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.moonchild
Active Member
Your grow op is outrageous dudelava is next for me.
as far as vert goes... the journals i have followed left me with the impression that vert. is more trouble than it is worth ... unless ur talking growing trees vertically with like one bulb per tree (surrounding the plant with lights rather than surrounding the light with plants).
not that i doubt the setup is highly effective. that frigg'in beehive thing is deffinitely catching all the light... and if ur willing to go big BIG on plant numbers ... at 86 per... while running several of those hives... more power to you. Your location is probably one of the most secure "in the nation". So, have at it. Anyone else and i'd try to talk them down... down to staying below 99 plants / clones total. I still flinch when i read people say that they are planning to grow 100 ... or 200 ... or 400 ... or 1000+ plants... when the legal cutoffs are 99, 199, 399, 999, etc. At least they used to be. No reason to piss off Uncle Sam, in my opinion.
The last page (currently) on my journal, page 88, represents the vert/horizontal dillema pictorially, from my perspective. Most vert growers spend too much time training and tying and vegging their plants into the proper configuration... when that time could have been used for more flowering in a flat setup. The same argument you use for flowering straight from clone. But the beehive setup uses plant numbers to overcome the necessity of vertical veg. time, so i really can't argue against it.
I'm along for the ride no matter how bumpy it gets
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GypsyBush
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I hear you DG...
But with 2 hives I would have LESS plants and less lights doing the same job...
86 +86 = 172 = 1200w
Right now I do 48 x 4 = 192 = 2400w
GypsyBush
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Howcome...?
Any specific reasons?
No hydroton eh?!?!
Have you considered transforming your "flood bays" into a huge re-circ DWC...??? some plywood with wholes for net pots... just a thought... no medium... and with a large res, DWC becomes a little more feasible, as the temps and levels remain more constant....
Lava is the poor man's hydroton. I've followed a couple different threads now comparing the two... and lava never seems to come out on bottom - they are just slightly different.
I bought all the 27 gallon totes needed to switch to a recirc. DWC ... but have recieved a whole lot of advice to skip on it (mostly due to the root problem possibilities) and to give ebb 'n flow another go with a different media. I will be adding drip, however. So it'll still be a combo system this time around - along with the media change.
Since when are you stingy on the ju-ju (electric) ? I know you love hauling all that diesel, builds muscle
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I bought all the 27 gallon totes needed to switch to a recirc. DWC ... but have recieved a whole lot of advice to skip on it (mostly due to the root problem possibilities) and to give ebb 'n flow another go with a different media. I will be adding drip, however. So it'll still be a combo system this time around - along with the media change.
Since when are you stingy on the ju-ju (electric) ? I know you love hauling all that diesel, builds muscle
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GypsyBush
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Gotcha!
I can see no reason why they would be different...
Now.. when I said DWC, I meant right on the flood bays you have...
Just keep them always flooded, and recirculating...
DWC has root probs if you have warm water... or in small res...
I am not trying to convince you or anything...lol... just saying it would be a neat experiment and would require very little change.. just a sheet of plywood with holes fir the net pots...
Am I making any sense?
I can see no reason why they would be different...
Now.. when I said DWC, I meant right on the flood bays you have...
Just keep them always flooded, and recirculating...
DWC has root probs if you have warm water... or in small res...
I am not trying to convince you or anything...lol... just saying it would be a neat experiment and would require very little change.. just a sheet of plywood with holes fir the net pots...
Am I making any sense?
ReelFiles
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Sweet pics brother, got the original size of this one? I would love that for my desktop wallpaper.So here are a few more shots of everything before I erase them all again...lol...
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GypsyBush
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It will not let me post full size here... sorry...
GypsyBush
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So I thought I'd keep you guys updated...
I flipped the room to 12/12.. and got a mom station set up again...
Here we see some of the seedlings.... still to show sex...
Then the tray with the clones...
The new mom station...with 5 know females and 4 unknown seedlings... to include the Jamaican Queen... (it's just bagseed that came from the hills of Jamaica)
Here are the 2 BC White Widows that hve been harvested and re-veged...
The Jamaican Queen, still to show sex....
Another one of the seedlings... just bagseed...
and some stress signs showing on the clones I got... no idea what it is... but it is not showing on the new growth, so it's working itself out...
I flipped the room to 12/12.. and got a mom station set up again...
Here we see some of the seedlings.... still to show sex...
Then the tray with the clones...
The new mom station...with 5 know females and 4 unknown seedlings... to include the Jamaican Queen... (it's just bagseed that came from the hills of Jamaica)
Here are the 2 BC White Widows that hve been harvested and re-veged...
The Jamaican Queen, still to show sex....
Another one of the seedlings... just bagseed...
and some stress signs showing on the clones I got... no idea what it is... but it is not showing on the new growth, so it's working itself out...
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GypsyBush
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About time too!!!!
Oh shush!
It's the same shit I've had for years now...
I just set it up again...
But I have a distinct "feeling" that this one is a male...
What's that?I'm gonna start keeping my mothers in hydrofarm buckets
Oh.. and Fatman says you need a 150 horsepower diesel powered water pump or your grow is just a sad little shit...
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ReelFiles
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Oh I know, figured you could upload it to imageshack or something.It will not let me post full size here... sorry...
GypsyBush
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Man.. I am so paranoid... sorry...
I just don't trust any of the pic places... I barely trust this place...
I am really sorry...
NewGrowth
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About time too!!!!
Oh shush!
It's the same shit I've had for years now...
I just set it up again...
But I have a distinct "feeling" that this one is a male...
What's that?
Oh.. and Fatman says you need a 150 horsepower diesel powered water pump or your grow is just a sad little shit...
That is a hydrofarm bucket
Yah I unsubscribed to that thread, and he took the time to PM me with insults. I just reported him for it
Shackleford.R
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So that is a DWC with a top feed??? looks nifty
Can you do away with the "leak source"..??? I assume that is a level "meter"...?
That's what I used in my last grow!! I should warn you, if you plan to keep a mother i would get a control res for the unit. The unit itself only holds about 2 gallons, just for the sake of maintenance i would recommend something in the range of 10 gallons, just to make mothering less of a chore.
That is a hydrofarm bucket
Yah I unsubscribed to that thread, and he took the time to PM me with insults. I just reported him for it
oh and also "mod" the brown hydroton tub by drilling a few extra, slightly larger holes holes to allow more roots to extend into the reservoir. also adding an air stone to the reservoir never hurts.
Shack
Mr. P. Kush
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I use the waterfarm 8 pack for my moms it works well easy pretty much just let it go.
This is my two moms i let them grow so i could take 200 cuttings hydrofarm bucket works well
This is my two moms i let them grow so i could take 200 cuttings hydrofarm bucket works well