Atheism

morgentaler

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as atheists, you and i may see this as shoving religion down our throats, but take a moment to look at it from someone else's point of view. what the nonbeliever may see as an intrusion, the believer may see as merely sharing one of their most precious gifts, the joyous love of their god. on a day dedicated to love, what could be more appropriate?
And a pedophile could argue they're sharing a precious gift too...

Happy Valentine's day...
 

Woodstock.Hippie

New Member
And a pedophile could argue they're sharing a precious gift too...
Happy Valentine's day...
giving the gift that keeps on giving or was it killing?

Gods, that is.

Some are excellent God Killers with marvelous super-powers.

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What do real-world Giant Jolly Green Vampires look like today?

:hump:
:peace:
 

undertheice

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And a pedophile could argue they're sharing a precious gift too...
oh, come on now. only the most psychotic anti-religion fanatic would equate religion with such child abuse. it's comments like this that tend to marginalize the proponents of atheism and give the god fearing majority the impression that we are all a bunch of ignorant malcontents.
 

CrackerJax

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Morgan is only showing that ur logic is faulty..... just as if you received a candy bag with all sorts of satanic verses and sayings included...you would be offended. But they could throw back at you the EXACT same response YOU gave....
 
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PadawanBater

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oh, come on now. only the most psychotic anti-religion fanatic would equate religion with such child abuse. it's comments like this that tend to marginalize the proponents of atheism and give the god fearing majority the impression that we are all a bunch of ignorant malcontents.
Are you suggesting religion isn't child abuse?
 

Katatawnic

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oh, come on now. only the most psychotic anti-religion fanatic would equate religion with such child abuse. it's comments like this that tend to marginalize the proponents of atheism and give the god fearing majority the impression that we are all a bunch of ignorant malcontents.
He didn't say that the gift bag was comparable to pedophilia. He said one "reason" (excuse) makes as much sense as the other does.

Morgan is only showing that ur logic is faulty..... just as if you received a candy bag with all sorts of satanic verses and sayings included...you would be offended. But they could throw back at you the EXACT same response YOU gave....
But that would be different. :roll: "Good" vs. "evil" stigma/assumptions attached to the source, and all that jazz.
 

morgentaler

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oh, come on now. only the most psychotic anti-religion fanatic would equate religion with such child abuse. it's comments like this that tend to marginalize the proponents of atheism and give the god fearing majority the impression that we are all a bunch of ignorant malcontents.
Religion IS child abuse.

Teaching children to believe in and worship invisible monsters to control their social development is sick, and a violation of the trust a child puts in you.

If you don't understand this, then you don't understand religion.
 

undertheice

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Morgan is only showing that ur logic is faulty..... just as if you received a candy bag with all sorts of satanic verses and sayings included...you would be offended.
if the message was a positive one, i most certainly wouldn't be offended. i leave that sort of childishness to the zealots and search for the underlying intent instead of allowing my bigotry to fixate my attentions on the superficial.

Are you suggesting religion isn't child abuse?
i'm sure you could make the case that indoctrination is a form of child abuse, but very few are not guilty of that crime. i'm afraid you would find yourself indicting not only the institutionalized clone industry known as public schooling, but every parent as well. we all attempt to imprint our own values on our offspring, it is a way of insuring our immortality. though the mythos built up around scripture may be more powerful, the ethical lessons contained are no more dangerous than any other fable and many of those lessons are an integral part of surviving within society. evil may be done in the name of any belief system, that doesn't make those beliefs evil.

He didn't say that the gift bag was comparable to pedophilia. He said one "reason" (excuse) makes as much sense as the other does.
no, he was equating the harmless sharing of an ideology of love with fucking little kids. i have to ask what damage there is in such sharing. are our sensibilities so fragile that we see the simple exchange of ideas as a crime equal to rape and the destruction of a child's innocence?
 

morgentaler

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no, he was equating the harmless sharing of an ideology of love with fucking little kids. i have to ask what damage there is in such sharing. are our sensibilities so fragile that we see the simple exchange of ideas as a crime equal to rape and the destruction of a child's innocence?
Jesus is not love. Have you read the bible? All the promises of suffering for those than don't believe in him?

You drank the fucking kool-aid, but you don't need to piss it on us.
 

morgentaler

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Maybe they can explain why are states with the highest Christian presence also those with the greatest support for the death penalty.

'Thou Shalt Not Kill', except by proxy.
 

CrackerJax

New Member
Ever watch the original Star Trek....? :lol:

There was an episode about a society run by a machine hidden from view. Landrew.... the ppl didn't think for themselves....they did rituals because it was expected of them.

It was a terrific examination of religion...without saying as much. ol Roddenberry was a smart cookie...... chocolate chip i think.
 

morgentaler

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Star Trek was a ritual at my grandparents house as kids.
It was on CBC at noon, every Saturday I think.

I saw every episode by the time I was six. :) But I don't speak Klingon or dress up in the uniforms :P

Computerized religion, people lining up to be executed because the war had been sanitized to a simulation, lots of insightful stuff hidden in there with the corny stuff.

Ever watch the original Star Trek....? :lol:

There was an episode about a society run by a machine hidden from view. Landrew.... the ppl didn't think for themselves....they did rituals because it was expected of them.

It was a terrific examination of religion...without saying as much. ol Roddenberry was a smart cookie...... chocolate chip i think.
 
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