The Cheese, The Whole Cheese and Nothing but the Cheese
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Jester88
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your answer is pretty damn close bro. but no to be honest it will not guaranteed be better than any bought bean. breeders are always using the best genetics and utilize propper breeding regimes to get the best results possible. at least id hope they are.
they will grow fast, have really noticeable features ie, shape and veins in the leaves things like that..... basically they just look more vigorous overall... the reason for this is because its a new cross they have completely different genetics and grow out to be a happy little boy or girl.
f2 varies. though genertally the beans from this batch will be more uniform and show more of the traits you/the breeder were looking for. esecially if the result of a backcross to one of the parents... by the f5 generation your plants should all be fairly uniform and if all goes well you will have a good ibl or true breeding strain on your hands...
now IBL is in bred line these plants will be uniform but at a price the hybrid vigour we were just talking about will not be so noticable unless of cours your use rrs over two related crops thus allowing you to breed for similar results over two similar crops and crossing beetween them thus allowing you to create hybrid vigour in your ibl sttrain.. its called in breeding depression... would you like to have sex with your sister, mother or auntie, uncle, brother or yeah you get the point lol.
true breeding strain is a lot easier that is it only has to be true breeding for whatever you or the breeder are after say constant purple, big, resinouse buds are the goal. then all you have to do is breed for them traits (the methods vary but usually some back crossing and things of the sort are done though not always ie: the just fucking around method) once stable there are test grows and breeds to make sure them traits do in fact carry through and continue doing so in subsequent generations they will have an ibl on there hands. the plants dont have to be uniform in fact they only really have to breed true for the traits expected....
landrace strains may be totally unifrm or completely unpredictable (usually pretty uniform though) but to be a landrace strain the strain in question must be grown in a countries environment for a number of generations or that is untill the strain has become used to the countries environment etc. generally just the best male taken and bred with the female. ive read different things reguarding the actual basis behind a landrace strain but im fairly certain that a strain must be growing in that environment for ten years. though i dont know how this applies to places like where i live that i can grow over 4 times a year... though only 4 propper breeding times.. my question is this... most of these theries come from places where growuing once a year outdoors is possible or perhaps twice.. now does that mean i could do it that much faster or not and if the answer is yes then my otega should have been landrace long ago
anyhoo that was a really shitty explanation sorry guys lol but im in a hurry atm just thought id check out westies thread quikly hehe)
umm im here bro.. sorry if i missed too much but i went back like 5 or 6 pages.
yeah ive been busy lately court comming up and all. glad to see you guys miss me lol. j.jhe'll turn up...always does
you should get more than that i thinks. youll be surprised at how many beans you can get i reckon
Don Gin and Ton
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informative as ever jester! id love to have the climate for a landrace lol id settle for the climate to grow outdoors every year.
oscaroscar
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Thanks jester that was very imformative. You certianly know your onions mateyour answer is pretty damn close bro. but no to be honest it will not guaranteed be better than any bought bean. breeders are always using the best genetics and utilize propper breeding regimes to get the best results possible. at least id hope they are.
they will grow fast, have really noticeable features ie, shape and veins in the leaves things like that..... basically they just look more vigorous overall... the reason for this is because its a new cross they have completely different genetics and grow out to be a happy little boy or girl.
f2 varies. though genertally the beans from this batch will be more uniform and show more of the traits you/the breeder were looking for. esecially if the result of a backcross to one of the parents... by the f5 generation your plants should all be fairly uniform and if all goes well you will have a good ibl or true breeding strain on your hands...
now IBL is in bred line these plants will be uniform but at a price the hybrid vigour we were just talking about will not be so noticable unless of cours your use rrs over two related crops thus allowing you to breed for similar results over two similar crops and crossing beetween them thus allowing you to create hybrid vigour in your ibl sttrain.. its called in breeding depression... would you like to have sex with your sister, mother or auntie, uncle, brother or yeah you get the point lol.
true breeding strain is a lot easier that is it only has to be true breeding for whatever you or the breeder are after say constant purple, big, resinouse buds are the goal. then all you have to do is breed for them traits (the methods vary but usually some back crossing and things of the sort are done though not always ie: the just fucking around method) once stable there are test grows and breeds to make sure them traits do in fact carry through and continue doing so in subsequent generations they will have an ibl on there hands. the plants dont have to be uniform in fact they only really have to breed true for the traits expected....
landrace strains may be totally unifrm or completely unpredictable (usually pretty uniform though) but to be a landrace strain the strain in question must be grown in a countries environment for a number of generations or that is untill the strain has become used to the countries environment etc. generally just the best male taken and bred with the female. ive read different things reguarding the actual basis behind a landrace strain but im fairly certain that a strain must be growing in that environment for ten years. though i dont know how this applies to places like where i live that i can grow over 4 times a year... though only 4 propper breeding times.. my question is this... most of these theries come from places where growuing once a year outdoors is possible or perhaps twice.. now does that mean i could do it that much faster or not and if the answer is yes then my otega should have been landrace long ago
anyhoo that was a really shitty explanation sorry guys lol but im in a hurry atm just thought id check out westies thread quikly hehe)
umm im here bro.. sorry if i missed too much but i went back like 5 or 6 pages.
yeah ive been busy lately court comming up and all. glad to see you guys miss me lol. j.j
you should get more than that i thinks. youll be surprised at how many beans you can get i reckon
mr west
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Strains? Well as u might think im gfrowing cheese and psycho, im also growing querkle and deep purple and a jack the ripper. IN veg I have some headbands some la cheese seedlings and a wembley. Thats all at the min lol
oscaroscar
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I just tried repping you but it said i had to spread it around so i repped a load of strangers and now it says i can't rep anyone coz i've repped too many peeps ffs, i'll rep you when i'm allowedyour answer is pretty damn close bro. but no to be honest it will not guaranteed be better than any bought bean. breeders are always using the best genetics and utilize propper breeding regimes to get the best results possible. at least id hope they are.
they will grow fast, have really noticeable features ie, shape and veins in the leaves things like that..... basically they just look more vigorous overall... the reason for this is because its a new cross they have completely different genetics and grow out to be a happy little boy or girl.
f2 varies. though genertally the beans from this batch will be more uniform and show more of the traits you/the breeder were looking for. esecially if the result of a backcross to one of the parents... by the f5 generation your plants should all be fairly uniform and if all goes well you will have a good ibl or true breeding strain on your hands...
now IBL is in bred line these plants will be uniform but at a price the hybrid vigour we were just talking about will not be so noticable unless of cours your use rrs over two related crops thus allowing you to breed for similar results over two similar crops and crossing beetween them thus allowing you to create hybrid vigour in your ibl sttrain.. its called in breeding depression... would you like to have sex with your sister, mother or auntie, uncle, brother or yeah you get the point lol.
true breeding strain is a lot easier that is it only has to be true breeding for whatever you or the breeder are after say constant purple, big, resinouse buds are the goal. then all you have to do is breed for them traits (the methods vary but usually some back crossing and things of the sort are done though not always ie: the just fucking around method) once stable there are test grows and breeds to make sure them traits do in fact carry through and continue doing so in subsequent generations they will have an ibl on there hands. the plants dont have to be uniform in fact they only really have to breed true for the traits expected....
landrace strains may be totally unifrm or completely unpredictable (usually pretty uniform though) but to be a landrace strain the strain in question must be grown in a countries environment for a number of generations or that is untill the strain has become used to the countries environment etc. generally just the best male taken and bred with the female. ive read different things reguarding the actual basis behind a landrace strain but im fairly certain that a strain must be growing in that environment for ten years. though i dont know how this applies to places like where i live that i can grow over 4 times a year... though only 4 propper breeding times.. my question is this... most of these theries come from places where growuing once a year outdoors is possible or perhaps twice.. now does that mean i could do it that much faster or not and if the answer is yes then my otega should have been landrace long ago
anyhoo that was a really shitty explanation sorry guys lol but im in a hurry atm just thought id check out westies thread quikly hehe)
umm im here bro.. sorry if i missed too much but i went back like 5 or 6 pages.
yeah ive been busy lately court comming up and all. glad to see you guys miss me lol. j.j
you should get more than that i thinks. youll be surprised at how many beans you can get i reckon
Don Gin and Ton
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and that is all!!!
hahah nice selection box westy some top draw genetics!!
wonder how close the LA will be to the real real?!?
mr west
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and that is all!!!
hahah nice selection box westy some top draw genetics!!
wonder how close the LA will be to the real real?!?
if its anything like the pic ill be well chuffed. Im gonna give 4 of em to my mate laters today just waiting on the last wembley to crack but its dragging its feet might havve to conplain to the seed bank lol
Don Gin and Ton
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hahahah get on the blower n give them what for westy!! were they fems or regs i forget?
Jester88
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hehe happens to me quite often. (ie: im still trying to be able to rep westyt for beating the pm dammitI just tried repping you but it said i had to spread it around so i repped a load of strangers and now it says i can't rep anyone coz i've repped too many peeps ffs, i'll rep you when i'm allowed
. anyways the fact that the info was appreciated was more than enough.. ive had a few painkillers tday so im more just glad you guys could make out what the fuck i was saying. i knew what i was on about though lmfao
rasclot
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the last joint aint a good sign mate i dread that moment lolall fems for this run lol
u cracvk me up jester mate >>>>>>>the last joint out of my stash
quick question for ya how much is ur electricity bill n wot u runin in the grow department?
i think ive got rid of my pm aswell
i pulled the leaves off that were infected put the heating on in the bedroom at night wen the lights are off n put a tower fan on oscilating at full speed n its been 2 days n still no sign of pm lets hope thats done the trick my humidity was 60%-75% before its now below 50% at night no wonder a had mould problems
Jester88
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well share it then.. puff..puff..puff. passall fems for this run lol
u cracvk me up jester mate >>>>>>>
hehe i left ya half bro. thanks for that.
actually youve inspired me to go have a session hehe, ill have one for you bro. ya never know if we try real hard i may be able to telekinetically pass the stoned to you hehe
mr west
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bumpin for my homies
I think they are getting over the repot.
the freaky head band lol and the jack the ripper streching for light lol
Don Gin and Ton
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ta westy lad! really they need to be in flower ASAP unless your raising your ceiling!!!