smokingrubber
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Cleaned the reservior last night. This morning I dosed it with the GH Ripen recipe and turned the light cycle back to 8on/16off. Day 49 (if Im supposed to count from 12/12).
4x4 Tent - Blue Hash and A-Train
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smokingrubber
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No I haven't actually. I read through a grow guide written by the guy from AN and that's what he said to do. I guess it slows new growth and prompts the rest to finish. Makes sense to me, so we'll see how it goes 
laserbrn
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C'mon...stop playin' around. Leave it on 12/12, what possible good do you think it does to cut back on 4 hours of light per day?No I haven't actually. I read through a grow guide written by the guy from AN and that's what he said to do. I guess it slows new growth and prompts the rest to finish. Makes sense to me, so we'll see how it goes
smokingrubber
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I don't really know. A blurb I found on Attitude suggests that you leave the lights off for the last 2 WEEKS! I was like, no fuggn way. I guess it tells the plants that winter is here and we ain't got time for NO new growth. Finish up what we're holding and get paid.
I've heard it more than once. And it makes sense mostly. It won't kill em imo.
I've heard it more than once. And it makes sense mostly. It won't kill em imo.
laserbrn
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I know it won't kill'em, but giving up that much light (energy) for two weeks isn't beneficial. I urge you to evaluate whether it's best to make decisions on what you are going to do (especially things that are outside the norms) in terms of nutrients, light schedules and general practices before rushing to be so decisive.
See how much documentation you can find that supports continuing with a 12/12 light schedule and compare that with the documentation you can find that supports the shortened light period theory. I mean, really pile them up next to each other in your mind, why do you feel fascinated with those tiny piles when there is so much information out there that is TRYING to lead you in the right direction?
Why do you feel this need to think "outside the box" when don't yet know what's inside? Find out what's in the box before you work on the problem of how to get out of it.
Good luck to you either way, but you're right, it certainly won't be a cause for them to die.
smokingrubber
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I will definately do more research. From what I've gathered so far though, some experienced growers do it and some don't. No one has warned that it will do anything bad, but I will research it more. Thank you.
PS. Thinking outside the box is super easy when you don't know what's considered IN the box and what's OUT. If it makes sense in smoke-filled room .... well you been there a time or two I bet
PS. Thinking outside the box is super easy when you don't know what's considered IN the box and what's OUT. If it makes sense in smoke-filled room .... well you been there a time or two I bet
smokingrubber
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They're starting to fall over pretty bad. Specially the lemon skunk! (lemme tell you, that bitch smells so nice I don't give a FU<K what I gotta do to prop her ass up!) I'm attaching poles to the pots so I can string up a few heavies. Oh the problems we deal with
I'm looking at them and they honestly don't look like they're starting the 7th week. I flipped to 12/12 on Jan 1. Someone else mentioned that you should start counting from the day you see sex. Looking back at this journal, that was Jan 10th. So based on that date, I'm at week 5½. I will get pics up this weekend, you'll agree I've got a couple more weeks to go.
I adjusted the light schedule this morning, but I switched them back to 12/12 just now. Too late for today's lights cuz I pushed back this morning's start time back 4 hours. Oh well. Hopefully one day won't cause too much shock.
I'm looking at them and they honestly don't look like they're starting the 7th week. I flipped to 12/12 on Jan 1. Someone else mentioned that you should start counting from the day you see sex. Looking back at this journal, that was Jan 10th. So based on that date, I'm at week 5½. I will get pics up this weekend, you'll agree I've got a couple more weeks to go.
I adjusted the light schedule this morning, but I switched them back to 12/12 just now. Too late for today's lights cuz I pushed back this morning's start time back 4 hours. Oh well. Hopefully one day won't cause too much shock.
smokingrubber
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I didn't want to turn the lights off. They're only getting 8hrs of light today. Pre-Porn imo.
cannondale5
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I have been following since the begining.... I have a few lemon skunk from attitude a week behind yours and I will agree, those ladies smell amazing! It's been great following your grow and I plan on purchasing a tent for the next grow!
friendlyfarmer
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Light breaks down THC. This is the same reason that it is best to harvest early in the morning if you aren't going to give them a dark period. Just that little bit extra. I don't know if it is worth it if you aren't trying to win a cup though.
laserbrn
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You guys are selling crazy. Go ahead and cut back on 4 hours of light during the last 2 weeks, hell why not even run 1/2 the wattage on your lights? Cut back to a 400w HPS instead of thd 1000, I'm sure they'd grow bigger and more resinous like that. Running with 24-48 or even 36 hours of darkness at the end is one thing, running your last 2 weeks (or claimed to be two weeks, who really knows if the plants will be done exactly 2 weeks in advance?) with a reduced light period is flat out silly. There's significant growth and swelling during the final weeks and that can't be done without energy, more energy, more growth.
The one fact that I know that can be quantified is that more light = more bud. No magic solution in a bottle, no home made tricks or magic enzymes or hormone this or any of that shit gives you bigger yields. More LIGHT gives you bigger yields and tighter, denser nugs with more potency.
To each their own, but I'd bet the extra 56 hours of light you are going to rob would increase quality and quantity far more than this theory can claim.
morrisgreenberg
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hey Smoke, i just wanted to chime in and say they look excellent, you should pick up a microscope from radio shack, its a 60-100x for like $20. also as regards to your lighting sched, i wouldnt go that low on hours bro, lsrbrn is right, the plant still needs her energy and 12hours is the maximum hours of light before she tries to revert back. for more resin try to go 24-36 hours of darkness before you chop. also if a breeder tells you the strain needs 8 weeks, you need to go atleast 9! dont listen to them, fast finishing strains sell and its a marketing ploy. IME every 8weeker was taking till 10 weeks and still not much amber trichs, one week flush is more than enough IMO, just to help you harvest at the right time, its much easier to look at the trichs and say "i can certainly cut 7 days from now so i will start flush today" as opposed to giving your plants not much wiggle room=2weeks with no nutes on plants that arent ready sucks bro
morrisgreenberg
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another tidbit on the flush period, i like to use sweetners like b'cares sweet or floranectar, some flush with it swearing it adds flavor, i have never noticed a sweeter taste, but i did notice better end product, my theory on this is sweets are used for added energy, these added carbs are helping a dying plant live while not adding nutrients, so your plant will still be able to matabolize any minerals stockpiled in her leaves whilst giving an energy boost to help her focus on resin/essential oil production...just my little theory
smokingrubber
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Glad to have you along for the ride. I have two Lemon Skunk babies going for my next round too. She's not gonna win the high-yield award, but I involentarilly blow my wad every time I smell her
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I'm definately going to be harvesting first thing in the morning. I was reading that in High Times this morning on the throne. tmi?
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No need to get upset. I think they've got about 3 weeks to finish. I'm back on 12/12 for another week at least. I may cut the light back by 2 hours, but I am going to do more research between now and then. I've got a good amount of popcorn bud in the lower branches. I don't mind that it's there, but I want it to stop growing new bud and just freakin finish.
Everything is falling over lately because I turned up the fans and added two box fans underneath. It's a lot to deal with. I love the variety of smells and sights, but 5 strains at once is challenging for a noob like me. I'm learning a lot, but it's still feels kinda uncharted.
morrisgreenberg
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tomato cages!, unlike a trellis or net, they allow you to move your pots around and you can do some sick training
smokingrubber
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I have two of them. I got the 420 Scope (60-100x) advertised in High Times, and I gotta say it's blurry as fuk. So yesterday I bought a 30x while I was at the Hydro shop ... buying FloraNectar I like the 30x a lot better!
I'm leaning toward the "sight of sex" as the day you start counting. That would explain why you are adding an extra week to the breeders date. I will guage the finish by the scope, and by eye. I know what done bud looks like, I've just never grown these strains before, so it's a little more of a guess.
I'm starting to add FloraNectar to the res for the final few weeks. I am going to flush the last 4 days with FloraKleen & light FloraNectar. No light for the last 36 hrs.
cazador
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smokingrubber
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I bought large binder clips, drilled a hole in them, ran green bamboo poles through the hole, and clipped it to the outside of the pots. Working great! I need more clips and poles though, I only have 12.
laserbrn
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Haha, I'm not upset, I was laughing when I wrote that. I think this kind of stuff is funny. You definitely don't want them to "just finish". At this point they are growing weight more than you think. They are turning into lead weights on those sticks and that's what you want. They are hardening, swelling and giving you more and more ganja everyday FINALLY! All the hard work, all the money invested and finally you are producing ACTUAL produce everyday! Harvesting early means you waited until the plant got to the point of producing at a ridiculous rate like an 1/4 - 1/2 oz per day and you want to just cut it down....arrrrrghhh...don't do that. Everyday that it doesn't finish is a blessing.
I like to come in and check my trichs and think "don't be done yet, you got more in ya c'mon" and it helps alot.
Patience is very, very difficult to have, but if you are looking for the gimmick's to improve yield and potency they are:
-Don't chop early
-Increase light as much as possible
-Dry and cure slowly and properly
There are a lot more, but these are ALWAYS fucked up on first grows. You want to think outside the box? Try NOT making the same mistakes noobs always make.