World needs more LSD (clean)

[beardo]

i keep seeing these threads and think the LSD scene has gotten smaller and i keep hearing about RCs or imitation acid? i dont know much about rcs read up a little. i think our 'acid' was real in the 90"s or whatever it was it was good. i used to induldge heavily. i dont hear about it being around often anymore but im older not really looking and way out of the loop. i wonder if its not as prevelant because these rc"s are cheaper or easier to make or if because all of the real lsd chemists are to old or dead...seems weird its not around and i think the prices sound around the same when if someone made it and wanted to get money they could easily just go with very strong hits...500mic..? and get 10 or 20 or 25$ a hit i would guess. you will all say no but if its the only acid and you want to trip it would be worth it especially good clean strong lsd25. but i think its rarely around price is still from 150 - 500 a sheet and 5$ a hit with some people paying 10. I just dont think their are chemists intrested in making it

 

[Psychedelics and Chronic]

It's what I like. It's not any raining blood shit. It's more george thorogood? I don't know it's impossible to relate except for "quasi-rock."

I do listen to some heavy shit on acid and put the lights really low. I really love getting into a mood. It's not a bad trip but it's just a little unsettling... I love it.

I fully understand. Sometimes the dark trips can really make you trip 10x harder. Throw a little paranoia in there. Me and friends used to try and scare ourselves or eachother with mind tricks and it always made it fun. You can tell though when someone is not accepting it and getting scared as hell. Then we'd stop.
I've always wanted to go see Dethklok on acid, I love that music, and it is just soooo heavy while tripping. Kinda like a heavier less psychedelic Tool. Tool at bonnaroo was a fucking insane experience.
Getting into a mood is all you need to do. You can make whatever mood you want and it'll increase the fuck outta it.

 

[shepj]

I am surprised big pharma has not figured out a way to get this stuff legalized. Its not like pot where any one can grow it, it actually requires skills to make. There are plenty of medical applications for psychedelics, the sad part is that the feds refuse to let major testing take place.

Testing takes place all the time (currently there are 1 or 2 universities studying the effects) along with associations such as MAPS that do psychedelic research.

The bolded part is the "problem". Psychedelics have many cures, modern pharmaceuticals (generally) only treat symptoms.. cures take away money from big pharmaceutical companies.

 

[donthatetaylor]

i keep seeing these threads and think the LSD scene has gotten smaller and i keep hearing about RCs or imitation acid? i dont know much about rcs read up a little. i think our 'acid' was real in the 90"s or whatever it was it was good. i used to induldge heavily. i dont hear about it being around often anymore but im older not really looking and way out of the loop. i wonder if its not as prevelant because these rc"s are cheaper or easier to make or if because all of the real lsd chemists are to old or dead...seems weird its not around and i think the prices sound around the same when if someone made it and wanted to get money they could easily just go with very strong hits...500mic..? and get 10 or 20 or 25$ a hit i would guess. you will all say no but if its the only acid and you want to trip it would be worth it especially good clean strong lsd25. but i think its rarely around price is still from 150 - 500 a sheet and 5$ a hit with some people paying 10. I just dont think their are chemists intrested in making it

you don't see it like you did in the 90's because some rediculious portion of the worlds acid was all coming from one source and they got shut down. some group called brotherly love or something. i don't quite remember all the info (kinda fucked up) but there are some cool books on it.

 

[shepj]

you don't see it like you did in the 90's because some rediculious portion of the worlds acid was all coming from one source and they got shut down.

Pickard and Apperson LSD bust (year: 2000).

"All of the laboratories are alleged to have produced a kilogram of LSD approximately every 5 weeks"

 

[beardo]

Pickard and Apperson LSD bust (year: 2000).

"All of the laboratories are alleged to have produced a kilogram of LSD approximately every 5 weeks"

thanks for info on 90"s guys id allways wondered who turned us on....we were eating lots of acid back then i bet it was from these people im going to try to read more on them

 

[beardo]

Pickard and Apperson LSD bust (year: 2000).

"All of the laboratories are alleged to have produced a kilogram of LSD approximately every 5 weeks"

thanks for info on 90"s guys id allways wondered who turned us on....we were eating lots of acid back then i bet it was from these people im going to try to read more on them.. pickard apperson....and brotherly love

 

[hypernovax]

yep, never got the oppurtunity to try it

all drugs should be legalized IMO

 

[shepj]

yep, never got the oppurtunity to try it

Life is not over.

all drugs should be legalized IMO

Why?

 

[donthatetaylor]

thanks shepj for finishing that for me.

 

[shepj]

sure thing broski

 

[hypernovax]

Why?

only way to stop the cartels/violence in mexico IMO

 

[shepj]

only way to stop the cartels/violence in mexico IMO

They already decriminilized drug posession (on a personal level) and Norteños and Sureños are still as crazy as ever.

Granted I think legalization of marijuana would drive them down a lot!

 

[hypernovax]

They already decriminilized drug posession (on a personal level) and Norteños and Sureños are still as crazy as ever.

Granted I think legalization of marijuana would drive them down a lot!

I meant over in the US, lol
But yea its a joke that marijuana is still illegal here

 

[shepj]

I meant over in the US, lol
But yea its a joke that marijuana is still illegal here

Do you think that would create more substance abuse problems here? Or due to legalization do you think the rates would drop?

Yeah.. it is silly.

 

[ford442]

i have started to think that maybe all this chatter about fake acid is another rumor started by the DEA to make us mistrust acid and each other.. i have seen no proof of anyone being sold research chems as acid ever - i believe that it probably has happened, but nowhere on the scale that everyone online needs to be worried about it..

also - i noticed the other night that LSD had a 50% rate of success getting people off of alcohol when it was legal - AA only gets 10% and who stands to lose from an alcoholism cure?

 

[hypernovax]

Do you think that would create more substance abuse problems here? Or due to legalization do you think the rates would drop?

Yeah.. it is silly.

That could be a problem, but if it were regulated there would obviously be laws for it like there are for drinking, you wouldn't have to worry about impurities in it

Initially I think the rate would go up slightly then probably level off to the way it was before, obviously if someone wants to do it theyre going to find it either way eventually

 

[shepj]

i have seen no proof of anyone being sold research chems as acid ever - i believe that it probably has happened, but nowhere on the scale that everyone online needs to be worried about it..

Have you ever used an Ehrlich's Modified Reagent test kit on your "LSD"? There are TONS of vials and blotter that are RC's. Hell some people have been doing substituted amphetamines their whole entire life and think it is LSD! Acid is hard to come by, and really expensive in comparison to any of the DOx's.

That could be a problem, but if it were regulated there would obviously be laws for it like there are for drinking, you wouldn't have to worry about impurities in it

Agreed. I am not really for recreational substance use anymore, but I do think that if you're going to do it, atleast be safe.. and regulation is pure & safe (or atleast safer).

Initially I think the rate would go up slightly then probably level off to the way it was before, obviously if someone wants to do it theyre going to find it either way eventually

I agree. Back to the first point, better regulated and pure if they are going to do it anyway, I guess it is the first step in harm prevention.

 

[ford442]

i have never needed a test because i know that all the doses i have eaten were LSD (maybe 150 tabs) - and all of my friends say the same - the feeling is the same and lasts the normal 12 hours.. also - often i was sold well known tabs - purple/yellow microdot, black pyramid gels, yellow sunshine, pink elephant - all things other people were taking and reporting that they were indeed LSD..

i haven't had any acid since 2001.. but, i hear from my friends that LSD is LSD around here - perhaps it happens mostly in big cities where trust is not a factor? in my town if someone did that they would be branded a dick head and no one would buy from them again.. even back in 1995 we carefully gauged our trips in case we had been sold something else - the result was always that the acid was clean and anything abnormal was our imagination at work..

 

[ford442]

now wait - you are saying that this is because dealers are even tricked into believing their supply is LSD so they tell people its acid?.. hmm... that is a different scenario than what have been considering.. all of my connections have been smart, educated enough individuals to know for certain if they had in their possession something besides LSD..

i have been thinking that people simply get RCs to lay blotter cheaper than real LSD then sell the tabs themselves.. not fake a series of vials.. that is pretty sinister...