1st plant need help!!

LANERBLAZE

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that might have been me but now seeing the plant in question i dont think your underwatering, nutes is what it probably needs... how old is that, its doing better than mine... although mine is about poised to turn into a giant bush since it now has main cola plus 8 branches:weed:

and id say over-watering, however there is a fine line between underwatering and killing it, some people dry them right out to stimulate root production as the plant searches for its next meal, but that can stress it out too if done wrong. however if you over water repeatedly the roots wont develop properly and you wont get the plant you could have, or an extreme again would be death.

you will know if you over water, just always pay attention to what your plant is telling you.. if you have been watering alot and the leaves are droopy and listless then your probably overwatering.
oh k, thanks you very much man,


i went snowboarding yesterday so i wasnt able to look at my plants so when i woke up this morning i ran to look at them

there day 4 into flower is this what im looking for!?!?!

pic two is a little faint but I circled where on both.. lol
 

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BquamB

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Hey S7even, lets hope she turns out to be a female afterall, Im just headin home now from a crazy night, Ill let you kknow if their are any signs of seeds on my door =P probably soon anywyas.

Congratz also on the new fem plant man, good job on your grow, make sure to keep posted!
 

Joker209

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Congratz on the female and to s7even the plant is looking beautiful and is really filling out nicely. Are you planning on topping or lst'ing her? If you don't know what either of those are just let me know and I will help where I can :D
 

LANERBLAZE

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Its a girl! Congratulations! Plus rep!

Thanks budd!


now... lol
I have the 2 plants side by side, i now know one is a definate female lol, i cant tell about the second one yet but what shud i do about the 2nd plant?

specially if it a guy...
i dont want him messin up my virgin girl if he hasnt alreadyy....
whens the earliest they can pollinate?
 

s7even

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Thanks budd!


now... lol
I have the 2 plants side by side, i now know one is a definate female lol, i cant tell about the second one yet but what shud i do about the 2nd plant?

specially if it a guy...
i dont want him messin up my virgin girl if he hasnt alreadyy....
whens the earliest they can pollinate?
I know that it can pollinate it pretty much as soon as its formed its balls, but im not exactly shur,If you have room to put something in your current grow room now to separate the two of them in that grow room, like a wall of some sort. Or make another one for them to be compleatly seperate.
 

LANERBLAZE

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I know that it can pollinate it pretty much as soon as its formed its balls, but im not exactly shur,If you have room to put something in your current grow room now to separate the two of them in that grow room, like a wall of some sort. Or make another one for them to be compleatly seperate.

could a peice of card board work?? will it tranfer any heat?
 

BquamB

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If you have airflow, a barricade will do squat, it's pollen... It's designed to find its way with the least amount of effort possible. If their is airflow then it with become pollinated.

I hope ts a girl for your safe, nothing you put between the will lessen the chance lol.
 

BquamB

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Little Tidbit for Anybody reading this doing their first grow as welll and want as many Females as possible -- ALL CREDIT TO www.BCSEEDS.com

How to Produce More females from seed

The most important thing about cannabis is it’s natural healing powers. You should always use organic soil as your medium. Why would you take something good and containments it with chemicals? This just makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

Is it more profitable to use hydro instead of soil? No it is not at all. You have to look at the big picture here. Inhaling chemically produced plants will increase your medical heath bills in the future, so if it takes an extra week to finish your buds in a soil medium the added electricity costs for that extra week will be less than your medical bills and overall health in the future. Even more important than future medical bills, is the way you will feel on a daily basis, living chemically free, with more energy, more productivity and just the general feeling of being healthy. That in it self is priceless. So if it costs you an extra $5 per quarter in the short run, it’s money spent wisely. Buyer’s should be demanding only organic, and suppliers will have to change to meet demand. It’s simple economics.

With that said, lets move on to what you’re really interested in, how to get more females to grow from that 10 pack of seeds you purchased. What you need to know about cannabis is that the experience of the grower has so much to do with their female:male ratios when growing from seeds. You can give 5 people the same 10 seeds, and they will all have different results. Some growers will have 30% females, 70% females, 50% females and others 100% females. The sex is not exactly predetermined before the grower gets the seeds. It’s all about a few tips and tricks and most important of all, reducing stress on the plants, specifically right before the calyx’s begin to form.

Think about growing and controlling marijuana’s stress levels like that of a person with Diabetes. The less his or her blood sugar levels fluctuate, the less stress the diabetic will suffer.

If you over water or over dry your plants soil, it will cause stress, just like if your diabetics friends eats the wrong foods with too much sugar, or injects too much insulin, his body will not be stress free with all the fluctuations. They now have something called an insulin pump, that injects the proper amount of insulin 24 hours a day to keep sugar levels more stabilized throughout the day, instead of three injections per day which would have more fluctuations of the diabetics sugar levels and physical stress.

So the idea of good growing, it to try to be the insulin pump, making sure your plants:
1. Room temperature does not fluctuate too much
2. Room humidity levels do not fluctuate too much
3. Soil moisture levels to not become over watered or overly dry.
4. You keep the nutrients feeding regulated, not spiking or depleting the amounts of nutrients throughout each day. An equal ratio N,K and P will have reasonable results obtaining female plants. Remember the Diabetic pump theory,
5. You keep your light schedule exact, and never allow light pollution (never allow, even for a second, any amount of light to contact your plants during it’s dark cycle)
6. Never use 24 hours of light for vegetation, 18 on / 6 off is suitable, but not optimal. Read below for more advanced techniques.

If you maintain all of the above recommendations, you should have 60-70% females. If you want to achieve 70-100% female plants from seeds, read some more advanced tips:

Use more Nitrogen; you get more females when you have a bit more Nitrogen and less Potassium. If your Potassium levels are higher, you will get more male plants. A bit more Nitrogen is better for the vegetation cycle anyways.

Make sure your humidity levels are high right from seed with a humidity dome. If our humidity levels are low, you will get more males. Also prevent your soil from drying, this will create more males.

Temperature does have a bit to do with the strain background. Unless your growing an exotic Thailand Sativa strain that loves the heat around 85 degrees, try to keep the temperatures lower. High heat creates stress on the majority of strains people grow, and make more males. Keep your room temperature as close to 70 degrees Fahrenheit as possible, and make sure it does not drop by more than 5 degrees when the lights are off, or you will create more males. Keeping the relative humidity of the room at 70% is optimal for females to form. Higher humidity’s over 80 and under 60 will create more males.

Do not top your plants or take clones before sex is shown, this will add stress and create more males.

Use a Metal Halide (MH) during vegetation and a High Pressure Sodium Bulb (HPS) for flowering. This will create more females.

Before you change the light cycle from it’s vegetation to it’s flowering, be sure your plants are stress free. If you recently overfertilized, or treated the soil for mold or plant for pests, wait a few days for the plants to overcome that stress, then go into the flowering cycle, even if it throws your schedule off by a few days, it’s well worth it as you may get 20% more females simply by waiting the extra 3 days for them to recover from the stress.

It’s also best to vegetate under 14.5 hours of light for optimal female ratios. If this cannot be done, then use 16. And if you’re still in too much of a hurry, use 18, but never 24 hours of light or you will have too many males. You get more females using 14.5 hour of light during the vegetation cycle, slightly less using 16, slightly less at 18, but your chances dramatically decrease if you use 24 hour light. You could end up with 70% males, or 100% male plant, that means NO FEMALES AT ALL. It’s not worth the risk, especially if you’re growing higher end genetics.
 

LANERBLAZE

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mann i hope shes safe lol
i dont really have a fan in there.. so air movement is like a minumum.. but they seem to be ok lol
if i dont see hairs on the other one within the next couple days i almost wanna chop it or give it to a frien,
just dont wanna her get prego.
 

Joker209

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mann i hope shes safe lol
i dont really have a fan in there.. so air movement is like a minumum.. but they seem to be ok lol
if i dont see hairs on the other one within the next couple days i almost wanna chop it or give it to a frien,
just dont wanna her get prego.
If you have a separate area you can keep the male in veg (if you want to use it) and then flower when you're ready. He wont put off pollen while hes in veg. The ONLY way to assure no seeds is to veg / flower him in a separate area / room (where the 2 are not combined) and if you go into check the plants go to the females first or change your clothes and take a shower between male room and female room. As far as best way for female seeds, I used to breed on a much higher level than most new growers so please understand that this is the absolute best way to get female seeds! I have used this for years and only got 1 male in the very beginning of using it. I don't remember the name of the stuff but go to a nursery and ask if they have any artificial pollen for indoor plants / flowers and they should be able to tell you where to look. I used to pay $100usd for a 2oz vial but be careful cuz it doesn't last very long and becomes very weak after so many hours in the sun / light. Hope this helps.

Almost forgot... This book will cover a lot of artificial pollination of plants. I picked it up a while back when I started breeding. Granted it's very expensive for a book but this will help a lot of people understand more about botany.
http://www.amazon.com/Cognitive-Ecology-Pollination-Behaviour-Evolution/dp/0521018404

You can stress your plants to hermie them for seeds but you get feminized or hermie seeds this way.

These links may or may not help. I haven't read them yet but here they are.
http://www.greenmanspage.com/guides/breeding.html
http://www.cannabis-seed-banks.com/cannabis-breeding.html
 

LANERBLAZE

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is there THC in hermie plants still?

and If I clone my girl...
will they be female clones unless i stress them to the tits?
 

Joker209

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is there THC in hermie plants still?

and If I clone my girl...
will they be female clones unless i stress them to the tits?
Yes but VERY LITTLE on the trichs. As far as cloning. If you clone a female you get a female and the clone will not know it isn't the original plant and will grow exactly the same. If you stress them (lights are the biggest) then yes they will hermie on ya.

Here's a good link I just found and have started reading. Pretty kul reading so far.
http://www.cannabisculture.com/v2/articles/2788.html
 

BquamB

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Hey Joker, Nice post and a good read. Currently downloading the book. I hated plants and gardening but this little plant of Ours has changed my views completely.

Probably not the right place to ask: Do you think a Hydroponics/ small specialty growing place would want a complete beginner to train and Hire? I'm gonna give my hometown a runaround tomorrow and apply everywhere see if I can learn from the best or someone more educated than myself.
 
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