1st plant need help!!

[Joker209]

If I were you I would give her 24 hours of dark before switching to flower and if you're gonna flower you need to get some "red" spectrum lights for her to get anything good on her. You can grow with veg lights but it will not flower properly. If you flower with blue light spec in the room it will slow bud development down dramatically and you wont hardly get shit off her. Good luck bro looks beautiful.

 

[s7even]

thx mang im jus holding my breath till it shows signs of something and i hope quickly too cuz i want too be able to grow these seeds as soon as i get them cant wait!

 

[s7even]

If I were you I would give her 24 hours of dark before switching to flower and if you're gonna flower you need to get some "red" spectrum lights for her to get anything good on her. You can grow with veg lights but it will not flower properly. If you flower with blue light spec in the room it will slow bud development down dramatically and you wont hardly get shit off her. Good luck bro looks beautiful.

is 2700K considered red spectrum? because I dont think so, were in a argument haha.
can you post a pic of what we need like a pic of a box or a link to something plz

 

[BquamB]

From what i interperet in this image... THESE LIGHTS are in the Orange/ Red spectrm whih is what we want.

THESE LIGHTS are what we do not want, It may look th same but is 6400K / Blue spetrum.

What we have says "Soft White" but is to me... a red spec.

 

[Joker209]

There are many many charts about kelvins as they pertain to chlorophyll activity. Here are just a select few I have chosen to show here. In these charts you will see what color spectrum (color temp / kelvin) as well as it's studied effects on chlorophyll (what helps plants grow) In flower you need a red spectrum because of the type of hormones it activated in growing. If you were to use a blue spec for flower you would get more leaf > bud ratio due to the hormonal imbalance caused by the lighting.
Here are some pictures of the charts.
http://futuregarden.com/lighting/PAR_chart.jpg
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q261/newt_album/chlorophyll.jpg
http://www.life.illinois.edu/govindjee/paper/fig5.gif
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_cwbt2D65i9k/R2LFrYW5n7I/AAAAAAAABdc/Wv2F1RzAF0k/s320/Chlorophyll.jpg

The last few are a little more difficult to understand if you don't understand a slightly more advanced botanical study chart. Hope this helps. I will look up something else for your "argument" to be settled with

From what i interperet in this image... THESE LIGHTS are in the Orange/ Red spectrm whih is what we want.

THESE LIGHTS are what we do not want, It may look th same but is 6400K / Blue spetrum.

What we have says "Soft White" but is to me... a red spec.

The 6500k are the blue and are used for veg cycles. The 2300k is the spectrum you want for flower.

There are also things on some bulbs that say "soft / cool" and some that say "warm" watt bulbs. You can find nearly any bulb in any color. Here is a link for a site for bulbs / lamps.

www.1000bulbs.com

 

[s7even]

There are many many charts about kelvins as they pertain to chlorophyll activity. Here are just a select few I have chosen to show here. In these charts you will see what color spectrum (color temp / kelvin) as well as it's studied effects on chlorophyll (what helps plants grow) In flower you need a red spectrum because of the type of hormones it activated in growing. If you were to use a blue spec for flower you would get more leaf > bud ratio due to the hormonal imbalance caused by the lighting.
Here are some pictures of the charts.
http://futuregarden.com/lighting/PAR_chart.jpg
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q261/newt_album/chlorophyll.jpg
http://www.life.illinois.edu/govindjee/paper/fig5.gif
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_cwbt2D65i9k/R2LFrYW5n7I/AAAAAAAABdc/Wv2F1RzAF0k/s320/Chlorophyll.jpg

The last few are a little more difficult to understand if you don't understand a slightly more advanced botanical study chart. Hope this helps. I will look up something else for your "argument" to be settled with



The 6500k are the blue and are used for veg cycles. The 2300k is the spectrum you want for flower.

There are also things on some bulbs that say "soft / cool" and some that say "warm" watt bulbs. You can find nearly any bulb in any color. Here is a link for a site for bulbs / lamps.

www.1000bulbs.com

well if 2300k is ideal for flowering would our 2700k be ok?

 

[Joker209]

Yes 2700k would work but it wont be able to do what a 2300k bulb could. Most plants will do what their supposed to depending on the light cycle but I'm tellin ya that the spectrum makes a huge difference. If you can get your hands on some hps then you will be doing well. Where about in the world are you located?

 

[LANERBLAZE]

im in alberta... lol

how much are HPS lights usually?

 

[GidgetGrows]

I flower with the 2700k and they work. Not sure what I think of them yet, but they work

 

[s7even]

I flower with the 2700k and they work. Not sure what I think of them yet, but they work

cool cool, good to know. just dont really feel like throwing more cash down on it right now.
What would be the cheapest set up i can get other then cfl's? for like 1 or 2 plants

 

[Joker209]

cool cool, good to know. just dont really feel like throwing more cash down on it right now.
What would be the cheapest set up i can get other then cfl's? for like 1 or 2 plants

There are T5HO fixtures you could go with but I personally can't vouch those as I have never grown with them. Cfl's are the cheapest way to grow a small scale. If you are looking to upgrade your cfl's I would recommend goin with higher watt florescents like 200 watts for veg and 200 watts for flower. I will find the bulbs for you if that's the way you want to go.

im in alberta... lol

how much are HPS lights usually?

http://discount-hydro.com/dept.php?navid=2
Sorry I forgot to post this lol. You can also go to umm...
www.hydroponics.net
www.cheaphydroponics.com
www.hydroponics.net

Alter this search however it works best for you.
http://www.google.com/products?q=400+watt+air+cooled+hps+system&hl=en&aq=f

 

[LANERBLAZE]

thanks man, right now i think im going to stay with what i got,but for my next plants i wannt see what the difference in light does


im curious,

What does molasses do for your plants?!?

and can you feed them it anytime during flowering?

 

[BquamB]

S7even and I are both from British Columbia, in a nice town.

I'll look into some lights tomorrow buddy in the 2000-2300k spectrum.

 

[Joker209]

thanks man, right now i think im going to stay with what i got,but for my next plants i wannt see what the difference in light does


im curious,

What does molasses do for your plants?!?

and can you feed them it anytime during flowering?

If used properly in soil the sugars are feed to the plant to produce bigger healthier and tastier buds. This will be the first grow I have used molasses in so we will see in a couple weeks.

 

[LANERBLAZE]

i was maybe going to try it out at least with one of the two plants if they both turn out female..
then i could tell the difference, but how do i mix it in with my water/ nutes?

 

[Joker209]

i was maybe going to try it out at least with one of the two plants if they both turn out female..
then i could tell the difference, but how do i mix it in with my water/ nutes?

Personally I have no clue haha I just mix a little into a res and water with it. (little being about 1/8th cup to a 10 gallon res) lol. I don't want bugs so I use it sparingly. I just went and got my MMJ recommendation so I'm now a legal patient Feels good not to have to stress about it now. I go to pick up my neoprene inserts to build my cloner tomorrow.

 

[LANERBLAZE]

Personally I have no clue haha I just mix a little into a res and water with it. (little being about 1/8th cup to a 10 gallon res) lol. I don't want bugs so I use it sparingly. I just went and got my MMJ recommendation so I'm now a legal patient Feels good not to have to stress about it now. I go to pick up my neoprene inserts to build my cloner tomorrow.

lol jk! that actaully wicked dude haha!
i wish i could least have one plant with nothing to worrie about!

sooo jelous haha

 

[LANERBLAZE]

are you in the states?

 

[s7even]

#BquamB Here# So S7even and I just took a few small pics. We're sort of (Mostly S7even) That it's a Female. I personally think it's just little sprouts but lets see what the audience has to say.

I think that it is just little pieces that may turn to leaves but S7even thinks it might be a Fem spore.

Here are a few pics of "her" as of tonight. Little spots mentioned are circled in red (first 4-5 pics)

Enjoy all!

EDIT: Sorry for the size of the Red circle around the concerned area. Can send as a file if want a full scale size!
THANKS!

 

[LANERBLAZE]

wow.... she sure filled out nice boys
way too goo!
++REP

id saygive her couple more days, my picture up a little it the first sightings of my hairs, i think u got stippules in ur pics