Texas Man Gets 35 Years For Pot Possession

Cpl. CornB33F

Active Member
Your right, Republicans ALL hate drug users and want to send them to the electric chair. You will notice that all the officers who made the arrest had Republican affiliation, the prosecutor was republican and the judge and jury were also all republican. Ask any republican from Texas about drugs and they will call the police on yer azz in a New York minute. The entire makeup of everyone in Texas government is republican, they hang Democrats in that state just for being Democrats. Pot smokers are democrats.
Wow how ignorant are you? Its not a party issue. I don't see any democrats really fighting over the issue. Ron Paul is a republican and he think the gov. doesn't have the right to decide which substances may be possessed or consumed by citizens. All the party's are the same and they both need to be ELIMINATED PERMANENTLY! THATS THE ONLY WAY WE AS A COUNTRY WILL GROW:leaf:
 

CrackerJax

New Member
The guy is a habitual felon....that's why.

Not everyone has enough IQ to walk around free. He is an example.

It's not right or left. It's dumb vs. smart (behavior). Uhhh, he be dumb.
 

dew-b

Well-Known Member
I was reading this and it shows how fucked Americas (TX) laws really are...

By Dayna Worchel, Tyler Morning Telegraph - Tuesday, March 9 2010
TAGS: HEADLINE NEWS COURT LAWS POSSESSION PRISON TEXAS USA
Henry Walter Wooten has been sentenced to 35 years in prison for possession of 4.6 ounces of marijuana.
A Smith County jury found a Tyler man guilty on Thursday of possession of less than five pounds but more than four ounces of marijuana in a drug-free zone.

The jury in the 7th District Court with Judge Kerry Russell presiding then sentenced Henry Walter Wooten, 54, to 35 years confinement in prison. He was not assessed a fine.

Wooten, who had pleaded not guilty to the current charge, had been found guilty of two felonies in Smith County, one in 1987 and one in 1989. He pleaded true to both of those on Thursday before he was sentenced. His 35-year sentence will run consecutively to any other sentences that may be unexpired from his prior felonies, Judge Russell said in court.

The defendant had been accused of possessing marijuana within 1,000 feet of the Ebenezer Day Care Center in Tyler in October 2008.

Tyler police officers were alerted to Wooten's location because of the smell of the marijuana. Tapes played in court showed Wooten removing a number of individual plastic bags loaded with the drug from his pockets. Officers also found a larger bag of marijuana in Wooten's car the same day.

Wooten, who had remained incarcerated since he was arrested for the offense in 2008, had decided he wanted a private laboratory in Tyler to test the marijuana he was accused of possessing when he was arrested. Smith County Assistant District Attorney Richard Vance said Wooten did have a right to ask for such testing.

Both the results from the tests conducted by T.H.E. Lab in Tyler in January, and the tests conducted by the Department of Public Safety Laboratory soon after Wooten's arrest were very similar in results.

Trey Cloud, DPS forensic chemist, testified that the weight of the marijuana seized from Wooten when he was arrested was 4.6 ounces, and the packaging alone weighed 1.06 ounces. He also testified that the drug seized from Wooten was indeed marijuana.

Tom Thompson, from the private laboratory, who testified on Wednesday, said his analysis showed the packaging alone weighed 1.059 ounces.

Cloud testified that the weight of the marijuana, which was analyzed closer to the time of the offense, in this case, in December 2008, was more accurate. The testing done by the private lab was performed on Jan. 29, 2010.

In his closing arguments to the jury, Vance told them they set the standard for the community.

"Every decision made by a jury sets a precedent," he said.

He appealed to the jury to use their common sense and to look at the evidence.

"Wooten pulled bag after bag from his pockets like one of those clowns you see -- and in the driver's seat of his car was a big bag and digital scales," Vance said.

Defense attorney O.W. Lloyd told the jury in his closing arguments he was not there to yell at them and put the pressure on them about precedents. "You don't have to be a chemist -- you believe what you believe."

Vance had asked for the jury to give Wooten a sentence of 99 years. Leslie McLean served as co-counsel with Vance.

- Article from the Tyler Morning Telegraph on March 5, 2010.
they were probly hard on him for being with in 1000 feet of a day care.
 

FlyLikeAnEagle

Well-Known Member
The guy is a habitual felon....that's why.

Not everyone has enough IQ to walk around free. He is an example.

It's not right or left. It's dumb vs. smart (behavior). Uhhh, he be dumb.

So you're advocating a 35 year sentence for 4 ounces? I dont give a fuck if he just got out of prison for murder. Do you even smoke weed?
 

CrackerJax

New Member
Criminal records tend to pile up. he didn't get 35 years for just having that weed. Believe me, there is more behind this story. Each felony you pick up will be dealt with harsher than the last, even if it is the exact same crime.

He's a three time loser..... which means the state considers him to be a habitual criminal.

Judges & lawmakers know darn well, although they may not admit it publicly, that for every crime you are accused of, you have probably committed many more. By the time you stand in court on a third Felon charge.... there won't be any leniency. This fellow SURELY knew that...and yet...he continues.

I'm not advocating anything, but unless this fellow is brain dead...he knew one more felony and he was gone. Dumb....
 

FlyLikeAnEagle

Well-Known Member
Criminal records tend to pile up. he didn't get 35 years for just having that weed. Believe me, there is more behind this story. Each felony you pick up will be dealt with harsher than the last, even if it is the exact same crime.

He's a three time loser..... which means the state considers him to be a habitual criminal.

Judges & lawmakers know darn well, although they may not admit it publicly, that for every crime you are accused of, you have probably committed many more. By the time you stand in court on a third Felon charge.... there won't be any leniency. This fellow SURELY knew that...and yet...he continues.

I'm not advocating anything, but unless this fellow is brain dead...he knew one more felony and he was gone. Dumb....

Wow. So do you think John Sinclair should have received a 10 year prison sentence for 2 joints? Afterall I'm sure he knew what the penalty was.
 

CrackerJax

New Member
I'm debating with a clueless idiot.
That's not debating...hate to tell you. I could say everything I posted in court and not get laughed at.


defense lawyer (you) : So do you think John Sinclair should have received a 10 year prison sentence for 2 joints? Afterall I'm sure he knew what the penalty was.

(court laughs)

Judge: Move along.... (rolls his eyes)

That's not even relevant.

I don't go by the assumption that everyone who smokes weed is a good person or the system is automatically persecuting them.

That would be YOU.....

Weed smokers are just like everyone else.... human.
 

dukeofbaja

New Member
Agree with CJ, the dude was DUMB to be in possesion of 3-4 ounces, as well as baggies and a scale, within 1,000 feet of a daycare. I was recently visiting the town I was raised in (similarly fucked up laws) and they still have 'drug free school zones'. I was scared shitless to walk around the town of my childhood with the eigth I had in my pocket. And I am legal in my home state, Oregon. But I kept discreet as fuck. We went to the lake and smoked, well away from the 'drug free school zone' and the rest of the town.

But still, no matter what his past criminal record besides two 20 year old instances of simple possesion, he was seen as non-threatening enough to be released into society. And then boom, 35 years for 100 or so grams. About 1 year in prison per eighth. Are you seriously suppoting that?
 

Rob Roy

Well-Known Member
The guy is a habitual felon....that's why.

Not everyone has enough IQ to walk around free. He is an example.

It's not right or left. It's dumb vs. smart (behavior). Uhhh, he be dumb.

Who did he hurt?

If intelligence were any part of the equation in the "war on drugs" arresting people for "victimless" crimes wouldn't happen.

He COULD be of low IQ, so what?
Irrelevant and condescending.

A real live person has his life stolen from him for harming nobody, that is WRONG.
 

blaze1camp

Well-Known Member
35 years they tried to give the man 99 years...i mean really i dont care cause the states has caught you twice before over 20 years ago...

2 to 4 oz* class A misdemeanor 1 year $4,000
Within 1,000 feet of a school or within 300 feet of specified areas misdemeanor or felony increased penalty increased penalty

here in the state of TX i understand being in in a school zone but to ask to send a man away for 99yrs and still send him away 420 months is fucking crazy...so they dont fine him a penny they now they will now make over $30,000 a yr keeping him in prison...
 

doc111

Well-Known Member
Agreed. Good post doc!
Thanks bro. :bigjoint:

So you're advocating a 35 year sentence for 4 ounces? I dont give a fuck if he just got out of prison for murder. Do you even smoke weed?
I don't think CJ is advocating anything. He simply pointed out, as did I, that he was probably given such a harsh sentence because of the habitual offender law. It's a bullshit law but I didn't see anybody who has posted here say that they agree with it. I've noticed you just like to go around picking fights with people who don't share your political views. Try reading his whole post instead of just jumping on someone because they are trying to explain the why behind this poor man's unfortunate conviction. :leaf:
 

doc111

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Who did he hurt?

If intelligence were any part of the equation in the "war on drugs" arresting people for "victimless" crimes wouldn't happen.

He COULD be of low IQ, so what?
Irrelevant and condescending.

A real live person has his life stolen from him for harming nobody, that is WRONG.
I think we can all agree that this poor man got a raw deal here. It should be mentioned that if you are doing something illegal you should be a little bit smarter. Is it fair what he got? Of course not, but he was obviously careless and got himself caught (for a third time) in a state that has very little tolerance for cannabis. Perhaps we can learn from this guy's mistake...........if you are in a non-MMJ state you have to be careful unless you want to end up getting slammed by your cellmate. Be smart. Don't be carrying around large amounts of weed and scales. Just because we all don't think it should be illegal doesn't change the fact that it is illegal. Get politically active so we can change these stupid laws. :weed:
 

NoDrama

Well-Known Member
Wow how ignorant are you? Its not a party issue. I don't see any democrats really fighting over the issue. Ron Paul is a republican and he think the gov. doesn't have the right to decide which substances may be possessed or consumed by citizens. All the party's are the same and they both need to be ELIMINATED PERMANENTLY! THATS THE ONLY WAY WE AS A COUNTRY WILL GROW:leaf:
No shit?

Perhaps reading comprehension is not your strong suit. My statement was not directed at anyone but baddog40 and his ill conceived idea that its the republicans fault. I was being facetious.

Ron Paul isn't a republican, he is a libertarian, but since this country has a 2 party system, if you want to have ANY chance at being elected you MUST belong to either dems or repubs.

The 2 party system needs to go away, we should be voting on the person, not on the party.
 

doc111

Well-Known Member
No shit?

Perhaps reading comprehension is not your strong suit. My statement was not directed at anyone but baddog40 and his ill conceived idea that its the republicans fault. I was being facetious.

Ron Paul isn't a republican, he is a libertarian, but since this country has a 2 party system, if you want to have ANY chance at being elected you MUST belong to either dems or repubs.

The 2 party system needs to go away, we should be voting on the person, not on the party.
I could tell that your post was dripping with sarcasm (which was awesome BTW). And I agree about the 2 party system. We just have to stop electing these pricks in either party. :joint:
 

NoDrama

Well-Known Member
Who did he hurt?

If intelligence were any part of the equation in the "war on drugs" arresting people for "victimless" crimes wouldn't happen.

He COULD be of low IQ, so what?
Irrelevant and condescending.

A real live person has his life stolen from him for harming nobody, that is WRONG.
I completely agree with this idea. The fact that there is no victim should be enough to either have nullification or a hung jury. Unfortunately people just don't understand that its the Jury who interprets the law, not the judge. Unfortunately they weed out all the intelligent, independent critical thinking people during jury selection and keep the feeble minded sheep mentality types to serve, the ones who think the Judge has all the power. I WANT to serve on a jury in a case like this so i can explain to them how its can't be a crime if no one was injured, no rights were encroached upon and no one was caused loss. But like I said, they make sure the Jury are easily influenced types who don't understand that it is the Jury who has the power to overturn any law just for the simple fact they deem it not in the public interest. The man was obviously selling pot, but certainly not to preschoolers, LOL they don't have enough money to purchase anything. You don't see a 3 year old, with a wad of 20's, hangin out on the street corner to get his herbal fix do you? Thats what makes no sense about selling within a certain distance of a day care. None of the kids in the daycare has 2 thin dimes to spend, let alone the cash needed to buy illicit drugs. It is a law that makes no sense other than the purpose of making the fines and punishment ever larger for the unruly citizen. Perhaps they just want to scare us all into being good little docile sheep who will roll over on command.
 

angelsbandit

Well-Known Member
"Tapes played in court showed Wooten removing a number of individual plastic bags loaded with the drug from his pockets. Officers also found a larger bag of marijuana in Wooten's car the same day."


It sure looks like he was dealing, and not just walking down the street with multiple bags of weed on him and more in the car.
I don't like seeing someone's life destroyed, but this guy brought this on himself.

People who act in an irresponsible manor harm all of those who try to stay legal, and act responsibly.
 

CrackerJax

New Member
Yes Angel, and that was a deciding factor I'm sure.

Rob doesn't seem to mind if someone is hanging out by his kids school with 4 ounces and a scale.... :roll:

As a two time loser (convictions, not accusations, big difference), that dumbarse should know better....but he didn't.

He should be dressed down, because morons like that hurt the weed cause. That I cannot abide.
 
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