Question about Mycorrhizae Inoculant... (+rep)

Subtlechaos

Subtlechaos

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Hey RIUers! I've heard so much about utilizing beneficial mycorrhizal fungus. I've done what little research I can find about it, and still don't fully understand what it does for the plants.

My main reason for posting this, is to get a better understanding of exactly what it does for the plants. I mean, I've read the articles and such, but still dont really understand WHAT I'm doing to my plants. Most of the articles I found have alot of big words.:dunce:

If specifics of where I will apply it are necessary... I have 4 feminized ladies of different genetics that just got flipped to 12/12. Their medium is FoxFarm Ocean Forest, and 33% Jiffy soil. I then mixed in 15-20 lbs of Llama manure, and a good amount of fruit bat guano. I added some perlite and Sphagnum Peat Moss, as well.

I let my soil compost for a month and a half with bonemeal and bloodmeal being added every once in a while to keep it hot. If you have any more questions about the grow, refer to the link in my sig...

I've just made my order for THIS, and dont want to use it blindly. So I guess my more specific questions are...

*How do I know if treatment is necessary?

*Is this something I will apply regularly?

*In more basic terms, what exactly does it do for my plant?

I'm sorry if I seem like a noob, too worried about his plants. I just want to know what I'm doing, before I do it. Ya' know?

Thanx in advance for all help.

:peace:
 
kronic1989

kronic1989

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I dont know much about it. Ive read it wards off bugs, infections and diseases from the plant, But nothing more in depth than that. I know promix bh uses it, and thats what I use. The shit works great for me, so it dont hurt none!
 
potpimp

potpimp

Sector 5 Moderator
It's another snake oil sales pitch. Mycorrzial bacteria is a naturally occurring bacteria found in soil. You can add to it but what happens is that the dominant bacteria will overwhelm (and eat) the MC.
 
bobsgreen

bobsgreen

Active Member
it builds a web/network around your roots and they can mine for nutrients from the soil better...best of started younger..i plan on stopping a week or two before harvest
 
ElectricPineapple

ElectricPineapple

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nah its not a snake oil. these are legit. just type it in google and look at images. at my university we have actually done research about it. it helps tremendously. the Mycorrhizae have a symbiotic relationship with the roots the increase nutrient uptake and efficiency. it also will greatly increase speed of grow, the mass f the rootball, and over all health of the plant. also shorter recovery time for transplant. FF light warrior has these good endo and ecto bacteria and the Myco in it. hence why it costs more than of. look at Myocapply Soluble Maxx. there are several others. Uncle Ben has a thread about it, this is the thread if you would like to read it. he goes alot more in depth into how everything works. but definitely use them. you wont be sorry.
 
potpimp

potpimp

Sector 5 Moderator
ElectricPineapple said:
nah its not a snake oil. these are legit. just type it in google and look at images. at my university we have actually done research about it. it helps tremendously. the Mycorrhizae have a symbiotic relationship with the roots the increase nutrient uptake and efficiency. it also will greatly increase speed of grow, the mass f the rootball, and over all health of the plant. also shorter recovery time for transplant. FF light warrior has these good endo and ecto bacteria and the Myco in it. hence why it costs more than of. look at Myocapply Soluble Maxx. there are several others. Uncle Ben has a thread about it, this is the thread if you would like to read it. he goes alot more in depth into how everything works. but definitely use them. you wont be sorry.
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Thanks for the link on Uncle Ben; he is my guru. Here is his bottom line on the thread you linked to:
"Just a few comments - the endo/ecto hyphae can not be seen by the naked eye. If you're using a rich organic mix that has compost or a manure product in it, the native microbes in your mix will "eat them suckas"..... stuff you put in, too much of a good thing is many times not only expensive and is big waste, but if it makes you feel good, then go for it. Remember, plants grow well under conditions that they are getting the right salts in the right ratio, essential nutrients. There are some beneficial nutrients that might enhance disease resistance and such.......

Bacteria are found in abundance in the soils of grass fields, prairie plains..... fungi amongst trees, forests. BTW, if you're using a decent compost, you don't need any of this stuff, not that it necessarily improves plant anyway. Adding peat moss and compost or castings to your potting soil and you're good to go regarding your desire for humates, microbes, etc. This fungi is found naturally in soils unless they are sterilized with something like heat or Vapam.

I had a Dr. of Horticulture tell me I was wasting my time and money adding myco products to my soil. In fact, he said I could actually be doing harm to the ones already present. Had another expert say that when you add some of these microbial/myco products, the native ones "just eat 'em."


Have fun,
UB
 
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indoorman

Member
Some good advice on microbes. I use microbes and have for about three years. I have taken it a step further I'm using QUANTUM GROWTH distributed by Douglas Speed an Associates out of Ponte Vedra Bch. FL. They are the only living photosyntheic bacteria on the market today and have the :eyesmoke:ability to fix nitrogen. I have cut fertilizer in half and use no fungicides or pesticides. The microbes create the sugar or nutrients the plant needs ten times faster than the plant can itself. For soil growers they also host all the organisms around the root zone so they are not taking needed nutrients from the plant. And as far as beening eating by other organisms they out populate the others and gauses law takes over the dominate organism will prevail and drive out the others. This is the future of growing if wasn't you would see the big chemical companies hoping on the band wagon. Try it on your clones or propergated plants you'll be amazed. Got some microbes to put out and some tending to the garden. happy growing Indoorman;-)
 
ElectricPineapple

ElectricPineapple

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no. because many of the soils that you buy are bagged are sterilized. thus kiiling all bacteria and fungi good and bad. now if the soil company put any of them back like ff light warrior and the soil you are using then maybe you did. but most bagged soils you buy dont have them. if you went and dug up your own soil and made it your self then yes you wouldnt need any. definitely put some in there. it will help. when you put them in water with water that has 1 tbs per gallon of mollases. this will help them the bacteria colonize and GROW. should only take a few days. but dont put any hydrogen peroxide treated water in there. it can kill bacteria. even the good ones. and if you have these microbeasties then you will never have to worry about root rot. theyll take care of that job for you.

pine
 
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indoorman

Member
ElectricPineapple said:
hey indoor, can you post a link to where i can obtain some info on this quantom growth. thank you

pine
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douglasspeed.com is their web site and their out of Ponte Vedra Bch. Fl. good outfit and service. phone number for technical service and ordering is 1-866-680-2565 I hope this will get there pine have a great day happy growing:eyesmoke:
 
ElectricPineapple

ElectricPineapple

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oh and you dont have to reapply them once they are in the soil. they will reproduce and colonize soil. just water with mwater and molasses once a week for them. and just flush when your ready to harvest. no need to stop or try to kill the fungi. we eat fruits and veggies that are grown with this bacteria and fungi everyday.
 
Uncle Ben

Uncle Ben

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ElectricPineapple said:
no. because many of the soils that you buy are bagged are sterilized. thus kiiling all bacteria and fungi good and bad.
pine
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Who might that be and how? Most composted soils that are bagged for public consumption are heated to 170F via natural composting action which kills weeds and such but preserves "good" microbes. I don't know if it is cost efficient for manufacturers who produce potting soil by the ton to steam inject their mixes.

Just saying.....
 
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