12k - Water and Air cooled (marine water cooled A/C units), Sealed room, C02, Lumatek

uptosumpn

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JESUS! jus read all 9 pgs.. jus amazing bro....I am planning on running a simular set-up next year,(when i make sum money this year, to set it up at an alternate location) not that big of course, but just 4 x 1000hps, lumintek ballasts, four IB, max fans, cool sun XL reflectors, thermal-shield, hood shields, dehumidifier, 75gal reso. ect.....ect but in 2 of those 4' x 8' x 8" GL GROW TENTS...jus need to make a final decsion on what HP chiller?? maybe the one you posted?? cause those damm Chillkings are too damm much! looking to get 8-10 lbs per cycle...doin a perpetual/stagger grow with this set-up! def. subscribed ++ rep to ya! and will look for guidence and info from your thread!!!
 

watercooled@

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JESUS! jus read all 9 pgs.. jus amazing bro....I am planning on running a simular set-up next year,(when i make sum money this year, to set it up at an alternate location) not that big of course, but just 4 x 1000hps, lumintek ballasts, four IB, max fans, cool sun XL reflectors, thermal-shield, hood shields, dehumidifier, 75gal reso. ect.....ect but in 2 of those 4' x 8' x 8" GL GROW TENTS...jus need to make a final decsion on what HP chiller?? maybe the one you posted?? cause those damm Chillkings are too damm much! looking to get 8-10 lbs per cycle...doin a perpetual/stagger grow with this set-up! def. subscribed ++ rep to ya! and will look for guidence and info from your thread!!!
Let us know what you end up going with and how it works!
 

Mr.Bob Saget

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So the one thing that I have been thinking about an kind of bothers me about your setup is how you had a new well dug, pump installed, and then you are just going to pump the water out to waste, just to cool the lights.. how come, if you are able to do all of this (expense and stealth), you don't just get a very large reservoir to hold the water and let ambient air cool the reservoir/tank?

Seems like you are being kind of wastfull....
 

watercooled@

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So the one thing that I have been thinking about an kind of bothers me about your setup is how you had a new well dug, pump installed, and then you are just going to pump the water out to waste, just to cool the lights..
how come, if you are able to do all of this (expense and stealth), you don't just get a very large reservoir to hold the water and let ambient air cool the reservoir/tank?
We had a 3HP chiller and 300 gallon rez running during the first trials. worked well, but also used electricity on the chiller and wasn't as *stealth* since the chiller needs to be outside.

Seems like you are being kind of wastfull....
Not wasteful since the water is not actually going to waste. It is being returned to the same place I got it from (well 50 ft away) This is less wasteful as running a chiller which would use more electricity.
 

Bob Smith

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We had a 3HP chiller and 300 gallon rez running during the first trials. worked well, but also used electricity on the chiller and wasn't as *stealth* since the chiller needs to be outside.



Not wasteful since the water is not actually going to waste. It is being returned to the same place I got it from (well 50 ft away) This is less wasteful as running a chiller which would use more electricity.
Lol.........I was also wondeirng how taking water from the earth and warming it up a bit and putting it back in the earth was being wasteful.

It's like the guy who tried to chew me out for wasting a smidgeon of CO2 from my generator.........some people just take things a LITTLE too far.

Looking good, WC - BTW, what's the timeline for your vert setup? I'm gonna start construction within a coupla weeks, methinks.....
 

Bob Smith

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^ Thanks... Cool tubes have been ordered!!! Let the construction begin on the vert!
I thought you were just hanging bare bulbs in a stadium format?

I need to get over to VG and see what you've decided.

But are you gonna DIY your vertical cooltubes? I'm too lazy and un-handy for that kinda ish, so I'm just gonna order a few "vertitubes" from Octagon Hydro and call it a day. Gonna be like $600 for the whole tube setup, but I'll pay for the piece of mind.
 

PublixStuff

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This room should yield a min of 24#'s and hoping for 30-33. Anything in between would be good.

That is for Top Shelf medicine.
Wow, am I jealous.
the only thing stopping me from doing something like this is electricity. I don't know how you/to dodge it... or if it's anything to even worry about (probably is).

Doing my first 2,000 watt grow, and am sketched w/ the electric company.
 

seasmoke

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Nice job. What I don't understand is how are you going to pump water from one well to the other without overflowing the return well...I can see drawing and returning to the same well, I do that all the time.
 

FatSalad

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Great set up. I will watch for sure. You have given me so many ideas about cooling my lights. Thank you.
 

buggin69

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Nice job. What I don't understand is how are you going to pump water from one well to the other without overflowing the return well...I can see drawing and returning to the same well, I do that all the time.

that's exactly what he's doing
 

watercooled@

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I'm not sure why you think returning to a different well would overflow it. Fluid dynamics don't work like that. The water table is not going to rise because I'm returning water to it.

Think of it this way... a large bucket, half full of water. put a pump in it and flow it through your equipment. Now return the water to the bucket. Is it going to over flow? Just exchange the bucket with mother earth in this case and wua la, you have this setup.

:-)
 

mochadog70

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Very nice. +rep for sure. Did you consider running Sunshine #4 as a grow medium? I hear it is alot like soil growing due to the fact it retains moisture like soil. But on the same hand it is like hydroponics since sunshine #4 has no nutrients so you are able to control the exact NPK ratios for each phase of growth. There are also enzyme products on the market Sensizym for example, when used regularly in Sunshine #4 enables you to re use your grow medium because the enzymes turn dead root matter into usable nutrients for your next crop. That means no more finding somewhere to ditch a shitload of dead soil after every cycle. Also the economical aspect is certainly appealing, a bale of sunshine goes a long way dependent upon your container size. Check out urbangrower on youtube. He has a video on there called "ph perfect", or something like that with an awesome grow room. Looks alot like how you got your setup going. they are using Sunshine #4 in 20 gallon rubbermaid trashcans. Monster plants!
Good Luck!:bigjoint:
Do you ever know anyone that has done that with Sunshine #4 about reusing it? It's a huge hassle bring in tons of bails all the time. Then taking it out.
 

mochadog70

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Time to give back, after lurking for some time and adding a new name recently, here it is...

P.S. Room is not finished and I will update as it progresses.

Ask away:
Very Clean Setup!! Here's a couple of questions:

Size of trailer, spacing on lights, with having 24 plants you getting 25#s?? How long you veggin for?
 

GanjaAL

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Very Clean Setup!! Here's a couple of questions:

Size of trailer, spacing on lights, with having 24 plants you getting 25#s?? How long you veggin for?
He never said 24 plants... he said a min of 24 lbs.... with the hopes of 33 being the highest.
 

watercooled@

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What is your estimated/goal YIELD?
Answered below:

He never said 24 plants... he said a min of 24 lbs.... with the hopes of 33 being the highest.
^ What he said.

Very Clean Setup!! Here's a couple of questions:
Thanks!

Let's take future trailer question's to it's thread found here I'll answer these here for you.

Size of trailer,
47 feet.

spacing on lights,
6.5 ft from each other, ~ 3'4" from the plants


with having 24 plants you getting 25#s??
The real answer is strain!
A slightly more complex answer is 24 plants can yield my customers 45-50 lbs.
And oh boy I can go for hours... of course strain to grow is not only dependent on what the patients need, but what the dispensaries want and what facilities are available to grow in.

How long you veggin for?
Up to a month

He never said 24 plants... he said a min of 24 lbs.... with the hopes of 33 being the highest.
I'll quote him again since he got it right :-)

How many plants you think are in this room:


How Long do you think they vegged for:


I'll give you a clue... it vegged two weeks more then this one... they've both been flowering for the same time and they both are top shelf...


Let me know if you want more info.
 

mochadog70

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24, but with the Supreme Court ruling giving us "no limit" I may do a SCROG. Most likely 24 on the first run.

TY. A theory of mine says the airflow in the room will ride better this way. There should be a slight up draft in that part of the room as my carbon filters (mounted on the roof) pick up the air and push them through the IB's (IceBoxes). At the end of the run the air should be lower.

First run will be soil... might add a 1 or two plan Aero. Second run in this room will most likely be at least 1/2 in custom Aero using 8 or 10" PVC tubes.
This is where I got you using the 24 plants from. I not sure how you make you replies so clean, but I have to go to each to reply...sorry
Here's my real question I have white rhino and trainwreck that I veg for 8 weeks and then flip 50 of them in 3 gal pots with Sunshine #4 w/ 6 - 1k Hps Agro Sun bulbs and the space is 14x10. The most I have pulled is a little over 9lb. I have learned on my own but have had temp, and bug problems that now I have worked out. Would Co2 be worth the money if used natural gas burner and what burner would be the best. I use real A/C for cooling so that is not a problem now. Any feedback would be great.. You can PM it to me if you want.
 
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