Locked up for three joints!!?

[csmoney123]

Reason I had em was that I don't smoke in my house (cigs or pot) out of courtesy to the other tenants in my building. I go to my my driveway and fire up one in the car when I'm so inclined, then go back inside and eat everything in sight usually lol. so usually ill have a bowl or joint or roach or two on me usually.

Not that I drive around obliviously stoned running down people, or even drive badly in general.

And my brake light was NOT out. they just use that as an excuse to pull you, then they say you're acting nervously for pc to search your car. And if your give em shit they'll arrest you for resisting, (I've seen this firsthand) The cops around here are notorious for their racism and general corruption, i'm more afraid of the cops around here than any criminals I may run into (i don't live in a "great" neighborhood) The people around here are by no means bad, just usually a different color than white.

On top of that, most cops have some type of inferiority complex. So now that they've got a piece of tin on their shirt, a gun, pepper-spray and 4000 of their buddies for backup they're suddenly real badasses. they talk to you like you're an uneducated piece of shit, or they lecture you like they're your goddam mother or something. this dude was a fresh rookie too, just dying to arrest anyone he can.

 

[mookie brown]

i ALWAYS smoke while driving. if it's so dangerous, then why after 20 years of doing it have i had NO ill effects. how am i impaired? shouldn't my truck be covered in dents? from backing into shit and hitting poles in parking lots? hmmmmmm

More or less driving while high your mind tends to drift a bit. Most accidents happen in a split second.

You & I & most others have been lucky to not let our mind drift & the wrong split moment. I know of a stoner who pulled out of a parking lot & instead of looking both ways he just looked at the oncoming traffic & when he pulled out a person on a bicycle on the sidewalk got clipped by the car which never did a complete stop before pulling out of the parking lot. Maybe if that driver would of looked both ways the accident could of been avoided.

Being high while driving can & does cause accidents.

 

[fdd2blk]

what about the SOBER drivers who kill people?

to try to compare pot with alcohol is pretty fucking stupid. you ever blackout on pot? how about piss yourself? vomit in your sleep? how about poisoning? alcohol will KILL you if over done. pot CAN't. that right there shows they DO NOT COMPARE.

caffeine is a drug. cold medicine is a drug. cigarettes are a drug. these all cause CHANGES in your meantal capacity.

if i have to explain then you wouldn't get it anyways. obviously.

 

[patlpp]

i ALWAYS smoke while driving. if it's so dangerous, then why after 20 years of doing it have i had NO ill effects. how am i impaired? shouldn't my truck be covered in dents? from backing into shit and hitting poles in parking lots? hmmmmmm

Well because you are Superman.

 

[fdd2blk]

More or less driving while high your mind tends to drift a bit. Most accidents happen in a split second.

You & I & most others have been lucky to not let our mind drift & the wrong split moment. I know of a stoner who pulled out of a parking lot & instead of looking both ways he just looked at the oncoming traffic & when he pulled out a person on a bicycle on the sidewalk got clipped by the car which never did a complete stop before pulling out of the parking lot. Maybe if that driver would of looked both ways the accident could of been avoided.

Being high while driving can & does cause accidents.

and that would NEVER happen sober.

 

[mookie brown]

I'm sure if you went to the Clerk Of The County Courts (Traffic & Misdemeanor) They will have 100s if not 1000s of cases for where people were high that caused an accident.

I was a Deputy Clerk for Robert E Lockwoods Office in Broward County after I graduated in the late 80s. Worked there for 4 years in Traffic & Misdemeanor. These cases do exist.

 

[fdd2blk]

Well because you are Superman.

no, it's because i have control of myself.


pretty simple.

 

[fdd2blk]

I'm sure if you went to the Clerk Of The County Courts (Traffic & Misdemeanor) They will have 100s if not 1000s of cases for where people were high that caused an accident.

I was a Deputy Clerk for Robert E Lockwoods Office in Broward County after I graduated in the late 80s. Worked there for 4 years in Traffic & Misdemeanor. These cases do exist.

i bet you MORE accidents were caused by people who WEREN'T high. therefore, by your logic, being high prevents accidents.

 

[fdd2blk]

i got pulled over by a veteran cop the other day. illegal left turn across pedestrian traffic during downtown daytime business hours. instant 300 dollar ticket. they have huge red NO LEFT TURN signs. i was focused on the people in the crosswalk, saw the cop coming at me, turned directly in front of him.

he came up behind me hit his lights. i veered right, it was a one way street so i was in the far left lane. then i veered back left. then i made a left turn and veered right again. at this time my wife starts asking me what i'm doing. she says "he's pulling you over". i take my pipe from between my legs and stick it away. and veer back to the left, head halfway down the block, and pull into a parking lot. i was looking for the safest spot for both of us to park.

we park he approaches. talks to me for a good 5 mins. then goes and does his thing. he's hella cool, and i can tell by his demeanor he is "seasoned". he comes back and talks to us another 5 mins. remember now I'M IMPAIRED TO THE POINT OF KILLING PEOPLE. he tells me my license is expired and writes me a fix-it ticket and sends me on my way. even says to keep the ticket with me in case i get pulled over again, they won't write me a second one. not that i get pulled over often. it's been 10 years. we get out of the truck and WALK away. we just happened to pull into the parking lot i was headed for. so now i walk past the cop, STILL IMPAIRED TO THE POINT OF KILLING PEOPLE. and he smiles and drives away.



cop not doing his job, or what?


you guys are lame, seriously. you sound like a bunch of 1950's housewives.

 

[dirtnap411]

i got pulled over by a veteran cop the other day. illegal left turn across pedestrian traffic during downtown daytime business hours. instant 300 dollar ticket. they have huge red NO LEFT TURN signs. i was focused on the people in the crosswalk, saw the cop coming at me, turned directly in front of him.

he came up behind me hit his lights. i veered right, it was a one way street so i was in the far left lane. then i veered back left. then i made a left turn and veered right again. at this time my wife starts asking me what i'm doing. she says "he's pulling you over". i take my pipe from between my legs and stick it away. and veer back to the left, head halfway down the block, and pull into a parking lot. i was looking for the safest spot for both of us to park.

we park he approaches. talks to me for a good 5 mins. then goes and does his thing. he's hella cool, and i can tell by his demeanor he is "seasoned". he comes back and talks to us another 5 mins. remember now I'M IMPAIRED TO THE POINT OF KILLING PEOPLE. he tells me my license is expired and writes me a fix-it ticket and sends me on my way. even says to keep the ticket with me in case i get pulled over again, they won't write me a second one. not that i get pulled over often. it's been 10 years. we get out of the truck and WALK away. we just happened to pull into the parking lot i was headed for. so now i walk past the cop, STILL IMPAIRED TO THE POINT OF KILLING PEOPLE. and he smiles and drives away.



cop not doing his job, or what?


you guys are lame, seriously. you sound like a bunch of 1950's housewives.

Honestly, due to my anxiety issues, I have to get at least that impared to leave the house.

 

[mookie brown]

i bet you MORE accidents were caused by people who WEREN'T high. therefore, by your logic, being high prevents accidents.

That's silly. The point I'm trying to get across is that people high can & daily across the USA do get into accidents because they are high.

Trying to excuse it by saying MORE accidents are caused by other means is ridiculous. Go comfort the families who lost a child or a loved one due to someone being high. Make sure you tell them, it could of been worse, the driver could of been drunk so get over your loss, it's not a big deal.

 

[patlpp]

i got pulled over by a veteran cop the other day. illegal left turn across pedestrian traffic during downtown daytime business hours. instant 300 dollar ticket. they have huge red NO LEFT TURN signs. i was focused on the people in the crosswalk, saw the cop coming at me, turned directly in front of him.

he came up behind me hit his lights. i veered right, it was a one way street so i was in the far left lane. then i veered back left. then i made a left turn and veered right again. at this time my wife starts asking me what i'm doing. she says "he's pulling you over". i take my pipe from between my legs and stick it away. and veer back to the left, head halfway down the block, and pull into a parking lot. i was looking for the safest spot for both of us to park.

we park he approaches. talks to me for a good 5 mins. then goes and does his thing. he's hella cool, and i can tell by his demeanor he is "seasoned". he comes back and talks to us another 5 mins. remember now I'M IMPAIRED TO THE POINT OF KILLING PEOPLE. he tells me my license is expired and writes me a fix-it ticket and sends me on my way. even says to keep the ticket with me in case i get pulled over again, they won't write me a second one. not that i get pulled over often. it's been 10 years. we get out of the truck and WALK away. we just happened to pull into the parking lot i was headed for. so now i walk past the cop, STILL IMPAIRED TO THE POINT OF KILLING PEOPLE. and he smiles and drives away.



cop not doing his job, or what?


you guys are lame, seriously. you sound like a bunch of 1950's housewives.

I really can't believe what I'm reading. On the one hand, you make an illegal left because you were "focused", On the other hand your wife is "WTF are you doing ? " Your sense of reality is so skewed.
Nobody ever made any correlation between alcohol and Pot in regards to its intoxicating effects. The correlation is that both impair you, one way or another. Yes, other things impair you too so why should Pot be stricken from that list as a no-no ? So far we are stupid, lame, and old fashioned. Do you have any more intelligent facts that it's ok to smoke pot and drive other than because you can Superman?

 

[fdd2blk]

That's silly. The point I'm trying to get across is that people high can & daily across the USA do get into accidents because they are high.

Trying to excuse it by saying MORE accidents are caused by other means is ridiculous. Go comfort the families who lost a child or a loved one due to someone being high. Make sure you tell them, it could of been worse, the driver could of been drunk so get over your loss, it's not a big deal.

what i am saying is SOBER people get into accidents as well so there is way you can say pot caused the accident.

why is this so hard to understand?

 

[PANGcake]

what about the SOBER drivers who kill people?

to try to compare pot with alcohol is pretty fucking stupid. you ever blackout on pot? how about piss yourself? vomit in your sleep? how about poisoning? alcohol will KILL you if over done. pot CAN't. that right there shows they DO NOT COMPARE.

caffeine is a drug. cold medicine is a drug. cigarettes are a drug. these all cause CHANGES in your meantal capacity.

if i have to explain then you wouldn't get it anyways. obviously.

it's not comparing the 2 substances, we're just saying that cannabis also changes your "perception" (maybe another word would suit better, English is not my mother toungue), and yes there are tons of bad driver who drive sober, but they're not discussed here. My standing is 0 tolerance in traffic, thats my opinion, just go to the facts of the "why" people get killed in traffic and I'm sure on 1st place is DUI's (including drugs and alcohol, I'm sure cannabis is on a low count but still)

I never vomited in my sleep, pissed myself or blacked out on pot, but I been slow in reactions, drifting, forgetting etc. That never happens to you when you smoke or it just don't "happen" to ya when you smoke and drive?

//CaL

 

[fdd2blk]

I really can't believe what I'm reading. On the one hand, you make an illegal left because you were "focused", On the other hand your wife is "WTF are you doing ? " Your sense of reality is so skewed.
Nobody ever made any correlation between alcohol and Pot in regards to its intoxicating effects. The correlation is that both impair you, one way or another. Yes, other things impair you too so why should Pot be stricken from that list as a no-no ? So far we are stupid, lame, and old fashioned. Do you have any more intelligent facts that it's ok to smoke pot and drive other than because you can Superman?

yeah, the fact that the COP saw NO IMPAIRMENT pretty much proves it.
but i'm sure you'll make yourself look smarter than the cop now.
my wife was sober and clueless.

you started with the insults. funny how you can't take them yourself.

 

[imLIFTED]

I saw this on NORML before and thought i would share with anyone who didn't read it.. link to full article is under the quote

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]A 2007 case-control study published in the Canadian Journal of Public Health reviewed 10-years of US auto-fatality data. Investigators found that US drivers with blood alcohol levels of 0.05% – a level well below the legal limit for intoxication – were three times as likely to have engaged in unsafe driving activities prior to a fatal crash as compared to individuals who tested positive for marijuana. A 2005 review of auto accident fatality data from France showed similar results, finding that drivers who tested positive for any amount of alcohol had a four times greater risk of having a fatal accident than did drivers who tested positive for marijuana in their blood. I[/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]n the latter study, even drivers with low levels of alcohol present in their blood (below 0.05%) experienced a greater elevated risk as compared to drivers who tested positive for high concentrations of cannabis (above 5ng/ml). Both studies noted that overall few traffic accidents appeared to be attributed to driver’s operating a vehicle while impaired by cannabis.[/FONT][/FONT]

http://norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=7459
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[fdd2blk]

it's not comparing the 2 substances, we're just saying that cannabis also changes your "perception" (maybe another word would suit better, English is not my mother toungue), and yes there are tons of bad driver who drive sober, but they're not discussed here. My standing is 0 tolerance in traffic, thats my opinion, just go to the facts of the "why" people get killed in traffic and I'm sure on 1st place is DUI's (including drugs and alcohol, I'm sure cannabis is on a low count but still)

I never vomited in my sleep, pissed myself or blacked out on pot, but I been slow in reactions, drifting, forgetting etc. That never happens to you when you smoke or it just don't "happen" to ya when you smoke and drive?

//CaL

as does coffee, cigarettes and cough medicine.

why do i have to repeat myself?

who's high here?

 

[patlpp]

I saw this on NORML before and thought i would share with anyone who didn't read it.. link to full article is under the quote




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http://norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=7459

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]"Typically, these studies reveal that drivers who possess THC/blood concentrations above 5ng/ml – implying cannabis inhalation within the past 1-3 hours25-26 – experience an elevated risk of accident compared to drug-free controls.27-28 (Motorists who test positive for the presence of THC in the blood at concentrations below this threshold typically do not have an increased risk compared to controls.29) However, this elevated risk is below the risk presented by drivers who have consumed even small quantities of alcohol."

This is why I never said pot gets you as f'ed up as alcohol . I said you [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]are [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]STILL impaired, one way or another, just as this study concludes.

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[patlpp]

yeah, the fact that the COP saw NO IMPAIRMENT pretty much proves it.
but i'm sure you'll make yourself look smarter than the cop now.
my wife was sober and clueless.

you started with the insults. funny how you can't take them yourself.

Smoke another joint Superman, your perception in this matter is so entertaining.

 

[PANGcake]

as does coffee, cigarettes and cough medicine.

why do i have to repeat myself?

who's high here?

you don't need to repeat yourself, plz don't try to make me look dumb...

I'm not hating fdd, but are you in all honesty comparing coffee and cigarettes w cannabis? I'm sure there are accidents caused by too much or too little caffeine or nicotine, or by couch medicine, but do you really believe that these 3 (coffee, cigs, cough med.) are comparable to cannabis or alcohol as to how it changes your perception and as to how frequent they are factors to an accident? In my country some cough medicine have a "red warning triangle" wich means ur not allowed "using" it and drive, so over here the tolerance in traffic is very low, that's also why there are lesser accidents caused by DUI's but still they are N1 reason for fatal accidents...

//CaL