Locked up for three joints!!?

[dr green lung]

I know what ya mean Chop. In an effort to make themselves seem essential, more and more people are doing stupider and stupider things. Cop in the Bronx the other day went public about police just pulling people off the street so that the booking sheets were full. they write any kind of crap down, then you have to prove your"disorderly conduct" was just a game of hoops. We do need police for real crimes. like assault and robbery (although I won't call em when my plants "grow feet") but they have stopped realizing they are there to "protect and serve" and now just dont want to have to be on unemployment. Everyone else can be, as long as they still have a place to go during the day

 

[svchop889]

basically people are only concentrating on how to make the next buck. not how to make the next buck easier to make. kinda like beating a bag of chips out of a broken vending machine but never bothering to call the guy that can fix it.

 

[fdd2blk]

Here here everybody, Superman didn't get caught by a cop when he endangered your families lives when he was toking and driving. Yea your smart , You win.

I guess I got a -Rep. I am so devastated. He wins again!! Such power with your 40 posts a day for the last 3 1/2 years. I wish I was half the man you are with such maturity and composure. Who said marijuana damages emotional growth.

you are wrong again. i did not -rep you. i did not rep you at all.

keep trying.

 

[fdd2blk]

You never answered this:





That's why I put the OR there, cuz I knew would make a remark regarding me mentioning alcohol



I don't know how impaired you were, but unless your one of those not affected "negative", slow reactions, drifting, forgetting etc. (combined w driving negative) then you were impaired. Since you have been smoking for such a long time maybe he couldnt "see" it on you, that doesnt mean your not "under the influence".

As some1 mentioned, if he suspected he coulda done a blood test, I've even heard of "strips" that they can place on your forhead and it reacts w the sweat showing of there's any THC, as I said I've only heard this1, dun actually know if it's true?!

i do all the things you mentioned driving sober as well. to answer all your questions. i wasn't impaired. i keep trying to tell you that. the cop felt i was fine as well. so by anyone here telling me i wasn't really holds no water for me. i am truly sorry, but i will take real life over the internet any day. real life will always win.

i am a medical patient i will test positive regardless if i'm high at the time or not. how is anyone going to prove i was impaired?

sorry if i don't turn into a bumbling idiot when i'm high. i know you all would love to hold onto the stereotype. but it's just not true.

 

[svchop889]

Im much more cautious driving when I'm high. If I'm sober I'm liable to deliberately run your stupid ass off the road. see its good for road rage. If I'm high and your driving like a damn idiot I just wont notice. lol j/k I will, but it wont bother me as much.

 

[svchop889]

Can the strips they put on your forehead detect weed hidden in your bum? I bet it just reads: stupid and doesn't actually do shit. then they tell you you failed and put cuffs on you.

 

[svchop889]

Holy crap lol

 

[Crypt Keeper]

The "pot version" of me would win easily. Why? Because "pot me" would be so "focused" on the fighting cuz pot me is stoned, not due to the fact that it's life or death...

I'm even one of those boring people who ask myself the question: Why are there sold cars for "daily" use that can go faster than the speed limit? If you wan't to risk other peoples lives by speeding, buy your own damn race track. There's a reason for speed limits but is there a reason for making cars go faster than the max speed limit other than for racing purposes?

"It's not the violence of the few that scares me. It's the silence of the many." Dr. Martin Luther King Jr

Speed limits are nothing more than a means for the government to suck money out of you. Because think about it if your doing the speed limited 60-70 down the highway and you hit something your fucked. If you hit something doing 100+... your still fucked. Either way something is going to be broken or bleeding or maybe you'll end up dead. It's just an easy way for the gov't to make some quick cash.

you don't need to repeat yourself, plz don't try to make me look dumb...

I'm not hating fdd, but are you in all honesty comparing coffee and cigarettes w cannabis? I'm sure there are accidents caused by too much or too little caffeine or nicotine, or by couch medicine, but do you really believe that these 3 (coffee, cigs, cough med.) are comparable to cannabis or alcohol as to how it changes your perception and as to how frequent they are factors to an accident? In my country some cough medicine have a "red warning triangle" wich means ur not allowed "using" it and drive, so over here the tolerance in traffic is very low, that's also why there are lesser accidents caused by DUI's but still they are N1 reason for fatal accidents...

//CaL

Yes they could be comparable to marijuana or alcohol because they all have different effects that change how you react. For instance caffeine, you can acquire an addiction to it, you can argue with me on that one all you want but your not going to change my view of it, which is different from mj but yes it is meant to wake you up and keep you in reality longer, but what do you say to people who live on coffee? or Coca Cola? Ie the ones who don't sleep and drive all day long and that's how they stay awake. Because I've gone for a few days on end with no sleep and only caffeine to keep me concscious(was I driving? no xD but thats besides the point). By the time I actually felt like laying down I was zombie like. I had no idea what was going on, no recollection of previous events, I could hardly keep my eyes open no matter how much caffeine i took in or how many cigarettes I smoked(Nicotine is a stimulant) I was constantly nodding off, and riding a bike to take someone home was a chore due to the zombie like state and the constant nodding off, I did almost flip the bike a few times, and I did fall off of it a few times. You can't tell me that caffeine, cigarettes, etc. can't impair you...

And I have been in the car with someone who was driving drunk, someone stoned, and someone without sleep before. Of them all drunkeness posed the greatest risk(I made them stop driving), sleep was next(had to constantly wake them up), and stoned was the least(never even came close to a close call any of the times ive been in the car with someone stoned)

Btw Cs how did your case go?

 

[mookie brown]

if your doing the speed limited 60-70 down the highway and you hit something your fucked. If you hit something doing 100+... your still fucked.

Don't forget that if you're driving 15mph & hit a pedestrian that person is fucked.

 

[Crypt Keeper]

Don't forget that if you're driving 15mph & hit a pedestrian that person is fucked.

This is true this is true, but what I'm saying is that the speed limits don't protect you from getting hurt in an accident because your still gonna get a nice hospital visit more likely than not. They're more or less just a source of revenue for the government.

 

[mookie brown]

This is true this is true, but what I'm saying is that the speed limits don't protect you from getting hurt in an accident because your still gonna get a nice hospital visit more likely than not. They're more or less just a source of revenue for the government.

The speed limits are created to protect !! Whether it be to protect the wreckless driver or to protect everyone else from wreckless drivers. If it were up to me the fines for speeding tickets across the board would be much stiffer. I'm all for $1000 fines for speeding just over 10mph the limit. If you're that much in a hurry to get someplace then you should leave a little earlier. Maybe if the fines were steeper there would be less speeders & less speeders equal less accidents.

 

[Crypt Keeper]

The speed limits are created to protect !! Whether it be to protect the wreckless driver or to protect everyone else from wreckless drivers. If it were up to me the fines for speeding tickets across the board would be much stiffer. I'm all for $1000 fines for speeding just over 10mph the limit. If you're that much in a hurry to get someplace then you should leave a little earlier. Maybe if the fines were steeper there would be less speeders & less speeders equal less accidents.

That would do nothing of the sort! Prime example is prohibition and drug laws! Just because you create a stricter punishment doesn't mean shit to people who are going to do it anyways and it's just going to add in more complications. So for example you may have cops get tighter on speeding, the increased cost of tickets but its not going to deter people and as they get tighter about speed limits and more tickets go out, more people get more marks on there licenses and more and more get revoked, your going to have more people driving illegally i would imagine people would be doing more desperate things for cash depending on where there standing was before, basically we'd all end up having to ride a bike wherever we went because no one would be able to legally drive, and if you chose to drive illegally you'd more likely than not end up in jail. Besides if speed limits and tickets actually worked at preventing people from speeding don't you think it should work like that for drugs, murder, rape, etc etc?

 

[PANGcake]

Speed limits are nothing more than a means for the government to suck money out of you. Because think about it if your doing the speed limited 60-70 down the highway and you hit something your fucked. If you hit something doing 100+... your still fucked. Either way something is going to be broken or bleeding or maybe you'll end up dead. It's just an easy way for the gov't to make some quick cash.

LMAO, on what planet were you born?

"Speed limits are nothing more than a means for the government to suck money out of you."

If you don't know the "real" reason for speed limits, then you are really ignorant.

This is true this is true, but what I'm saying is that the speed limits don't protect you from getting hurt in an accident because your still gonna get a nice hospital visit more likely than not. They're more or less just a source of revenue for the government.

they do protect you, it could be the difference between life or death. There is a reason for speed limits, and it isn't for the gov. to make money LOL!

The speed limits are created to protect !! Whether it be to protect the wreckless driver or to protect everyone else from wreckless drivers. If it were up to me the fines for speeding tickets across the board would be much stiffer. I'm all for $1000 fines for speeding just over 10mph the limit. If you're that much in a hurry to get someplace then you should leave a little earlier. Maybe if the fines were steeper there would be less speeders & less speeders equal less accidents.

couldn't agree w you more. I wouldn't have agreed w ya when I was 20, but that was then...

That would do nothing of the sort! Prime example is prohibition and drug laws! Just because you create a stricter punishment doesn't mean shit to people who are going to do it anyways and it's just going to add in more complications. So for example you may have cops get tighter on speeding, the increased cost of tickets but its not going to deter people and as they get tighter about speed limits and more tickets go out, more people get more marks on there licenses and more and more get revoked, your going to have more people driving illegally i would imagine people would be doing more desperate things for cash depending on where there standing was before, basically we'd all end up having to ride a bike wherever we went because no one would be able to legally drive, and if you chose to drive illegally you'd more likely than not end up in jail. Besides if speed limits and tickets actually worked at preventing people from speeding don't you think it should work like that for drugs, murder, rape, etc etc?

LMAO again you prove your lack of life experience and facts to back you shit up. First you compare speeding w drug laws. People have an adiction to drugs, they can't stay away from it, but speeding? I would treat an addict as if he was sick, no jail sentence is gonna get an addict to stop using drugs. But speeding isn't really the same thing ya know, or maybe you think so?

"Besides if speed limits and tickets actually worked at preventing people from speeding don't you think it should work like that for drugs, murder, rape, etc etc."

Hahaha, this really cracked me up! I wish it was enough w a ticket and a rapist would be done w hes thang, but again this isn't really like speeding...you think a murderer or a rapist would think just before the "act": "Oh I fergot I might get a ticket for this one, better stop before it's too late". On the other hand a "speeder" might: "I'm late for work, I could go faster but then I might get a 1000$ ticket, nah I'll call my boss and tell him/her ima come few minutes late." What you think?

 

[mookie brown]

Crypt Keeper,
Comparing apples & oranges will get you nowhere. Not everyone speeds & yes there will be smart enough people who like to speed 1o+ miles over the limit say, Fuck that I'm not speeding at all period !! There are more people out on the roads who aren't breaking laws then the way you come off as there are. It's only those who break laws in the first place that do all the crying.

Maybe if you loss someone due to a speeder striking her at a cross walk & killed her on impact your thought process might be different.

In all my vehicles I keep a picture of my wife who I loss 16 years ago to this very reason. It's a reminder for me to not speed & not put anyone elses life in jeopardy.

The toughest thing was not being allowed to look at her & be able to say my goodbyes due to the injuries she suffered.

 

[mookie brown]

couldn't agree w you more. I wouldn't have agreed w ya when I was 20, but that was then...

I hear ya, At 20 I would speed also. We all did when we were younger.

Now my daughter thinks I drive like an old man but for good reasons. If only I could convince her to let me get a Harley I'd be happy. She's scared of bikes & thinks something bad will happen to me. She lays the guilt trip hard but that's a good thing. I told her that if she should marry a man who rides a bike then I'm going to get one.

 

[Crypt Keeper]

LMAO, on what planet were you born?



If you don't know the "real" reason for speed limits, then you are really ignorant.



they do protect you, it could be the difference between life or death. There is a reason for speed limits, and it isn't for the gov. to make money LOL!



couldn't agree w you more. I wouldn't have agreed w ya when I was 20, but that was then...



LMAO again you prove your lack of life experience and facts to back you shit up. First you compare speeding w drug laws. People have an adiction to drugs, they can't stay away from it, but speeding? I would treat an addict as if he was sick, no jail sentence is gonna get an addict to stop using drugs. But speeding isn't really the same thing ya know, or maybe you think so?



Hahaha, this really cracked me up! I wish it was enough w a ticket and a rapist would be done w hes thang, but again this isn't really like speeding...you think a murderer or a rapist would think just before the "act": "Oh I fergot I might get a ticket for this one, better stop before it's too late". On the other hand a "speeder" might: "I'm late for work, I could go faster but then I might get a 1000$ ticket, nah I'll call my boss and tell him/her ima come few minutes late." What you think?

Here I'll do this with you, you drive a car into a tree at 60, I'll drive a car into one at 100 I guarantee neither of us is going to make it out very well. I know what I'm talking about when it comes to the damage end of a car wreck at various speeds, my dad used to work in an ambulance and saw the accidents first hand and there is no different between a car wrapped around a tree at 60 or a car wrapped around a tree at 120. Last year there were a pair of kids GOING THE SPEED LIMIT down a road they lost control of the car and slammed into a tree. The engine ended up in the drivers lap slicing him clean in half and the other ended up thrown out of the car and smeared down the street. Take a guess how fast they were going, because they were going the speed limit which for the road they were on was only 45mph. My dad got pictures of a motorcycle wreck in an email before. Guy was going around a corner at the speed limit of 60, had full racing suit, helmet, boots, the works. Bike tire slipped from under him and the only thing you could recognize from him was a toe or a few fingers. Just because you do the speed limit doesn't mean your going to be "safe" and that everything will be all fine and dandy because in reality it won't your still gonna get messed up at 60 the same as your gonna get messed up at 100. So if they aren't protecting you then what else are they going to do? Seeing as how they don't create an almighty barrier of safeness if you fall within them. If you want to do that then here's what everyone driving should do; Slow down to a complete stop, put the car in park, pull the keys out of the ignition, and start walking. Because then there is no way anyone can speed, or as you say create more danger to everyone else. And for the life and death thing I'm not going to go there because I have no opinion on who dies and who doesn't, yes I have feelings and attachments, but with some of the people that are kept alive now a days it just shouldnt happen. And yes I have had a family member in that situation, and yes I was next to them on their death bed when they died. So yes I have experienced watching a loved one die.

If you think about it you can form an addiction to speeding. World of Warcraft has no drugs to enter your system, only a keyboard, mouse, computer, and internet connection. Yet you have people losing jobs, relationships, their whole lives to the game. Why? Because they became addicted to it, they couldn't stop playing it long enough to goto work or to spend time with their significant other. So if your going to treat an addict as if he's sick then what are you going to do to the hundreds of thousands of people who do nothing but play World of Warcraft or Everquest and throw their lives away because they have to do that one last quest because they can't turn on the computer because they have to play their game? Yes you could just unplug them and they cant play it at home anymore. Home being the keyword because they could just go somewhere else. Are you going to put them into a rehab facility? I don't think there's anything you can flush out of their system. The same thing goes for speeding. Some people need that rush of adrenaline. Some people have to have that speed. Hell I have a friend who can't do less than 100 down the road without going berserk. You don't think that's an addiction? The need to have something unless you want to face the withdrawl from it? Addictions aren't only physical dependencies such as coke or meth that make your body require the drug, they can also be mental. Thing that you have in your head that you think you need but you don't.

And your still not getting it... JUST BECAUSE THEY SAY NO DOESNT MEAN PEOPLE WONT STILL DO IT... Because they can compare to each other, not in the same degree of severity but in the fact that rape is illegal yet you still have men and women being raped each year, murder is illegal yet you still have people being murdered each year, speeding is illegal yet people still speed each year. And it doesn't matter what the punishment is on it either. Just because murder could mean a life sentence or possible execution doesn't stop people from doing it. Your not going to have a murderer think to himself "Hrmm... You know I could be incarcerated for life for this, or [state depending] be executed for doing this... maybe I shouldn't do it." No if he's going to do it and he's thought about it those punishments aren't going to deter him. The same as if a speeder wants to speed he's not going to think "Oh no I could get a ticket and have to pay a fine if I go over the speed limit, maybe I shouldn't do that." No he's just gonna go ahead and speed right on ahead.

Personally I think if you want to do 100 then go ahead just realize what it entails, if you want to go 60 go ahead just realize what it entails, and if you don't want to drive at all then go ahead and walk or ride a bike. I have lost people to speeders, and their own speeding and it doesn't change my thoughts tho. Why not? Because speed limit or not your still gonna get jacked up and probably wind up in a hospital. I'm all for bikes but another example of the speed limit dealio. One of my friends parents that I got along with quite well with got into a bike wreck when they ran into a deer that jumped in front of them at the speed limit of 50. The bike was trashed, my friends dad ended up in the hospital with a few broken bones I believe and his mother ended up in a coma for 6 months and had to relearn atleast half of what she used to know. Another friends mother that I'm quite close with(I keep my friends close like family) was walking down a road when she was 17 or 18 and was hit by a blue pick up doing about 100-110, and was paralyzed from the waist down, as well as lost all her memory of how to eat, drink, and all of her schooling etc. and had to relearn it all. I do know what can happen when people speed and I also know what can happen when people don't. Both ways in a wreck someones getting jacked up. If your going to say I don't know shit and haven't seen anything or experienced anything then you can kiss my ass because I probably see and do so many more things than the average high school senior should have seen and done and know about. I've had to talk people out of suicide before, hell I had to chase down two of my friends before one got to the other with a knife. Have you ever tried to hold back a man set out to kill someone while he's still in a seething rage? While the fuckers still holding a god damned knife? I think not. I know a lot more than you think I do, and I'm smarter than the average bear. So before you think you know what I've experienced, bend down and give me a big ole kiss on my ass.

 

[svchop889]

do you ever wonder if not speeding prevents accidents from happening, you know cause the faster your going the less time you have to react. I speed, I like speed. but I never do when I have anyone with me, or If there is traffic I don't speed. Open highway no cars for miles.... then its just me and my truck going whatever speed we feel right with.

 

[dr green lung]

Hey Mookie. If you mix apples and oranges, you get fruit salad. Thats gotta be something!

 

[fdd2blk]

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[patlpp]

mind of a 17 yr old but he's 50