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crazy-mental

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do they look a bit behind. the two plants have a lite all to there selfs.400hps. do you tink there a bit behind. should i feed more or somthing. im using biobuzz for flower. im using the rec.dose. should i add more, or pot on. i didnt put in big pots this time, cos i only vegged to just under i foot. they havent streached much just about 4". wonder what im doing wrong. but as plants that ive ever grown, these look well. but like i say, im just learning the ropes. so to speak.if i seem to be doing anything wrong, please tell, thats why im here, for advice.
 

tahoe58

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well ......"behind"...that means that you want to compare it to something that is reasonable and appropriate to compare against...otherwise there is no meaning to the comparison. they look like they're doing well.

the reality is - all you can do is give them as much air, light, water and nutes as they will efficiently and effectively be able to use, and the plant will gorw to its potential. we do not have a whole lot of control over how the plants uses what we give it, and what it makes with what we give it - the the phenotypic expression of the genotype. we only have control over what we give it....give it everything it needs, and then sit and watch it marvel you with it productive capacity.:mrgreen::blsmoke:
 

crazy-mental

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ill take that advice on. yes if it did take 6 weeks. 42 days. then these plants of mine would be nearly half finished, and i dont think thats the case. more like maybe a quarter, finished.if that.
 

tahoe58

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oic....ok...sorry man...i want to be able to help...but I'm not gonna give away false hopes or crap advice. the circumstances under which we grow our plants is mostly unique id almost every case. minor differences make the plants react/act differently. there are obviously general rules, but the air (o2 and co2), the light (intensity and wavelength and duration), the nutes (individual components and in what proportion), and the water (seemingly benign....but tap water vs distilled water vs rainwater) all influence the outcome. and I would suggest that no one has EXACTLY the same set up....so you are dealing with a range of potential outcomes no matter what you are dealing with.

I think fdd said it best in a post a while back with talking about preflower, flowering and when is it gonna be ready? he looks at them and makes his mind up that way. sure that comes from experience, but thats the direction we're all headed...to try and tray again - to gain as much insight into what is in front of you at the moment, and then predict what will come out the other end.

As an example....I have bred horses for more than 20 years. I have watched more than 200 foals grow up (and some die of course). I remember saying to myself after about five years that wouldn't it be great to be able to look at that young foal at the industry accepted time period of 7-10 days old, and know within reason what the mature animal will have for attributes? well 15 years later....I'm still waiting to be able to do that. I believe I have a pretty good eye for that....but you always end up getting a suprise that puts your methodology into question again.:mrgreen:
 

crazy-mental

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ive just put them in the dark for the night and they seem fine, they have seemed to have grown. ill post some pics tomorrow.
 

crazy-mental

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on the pack it says 6/8weeks. they dont look half ready to me, and there really small,plants, vegged to just over i foot,now there a foot and a 1/4. they didnt double.like some plants do, when you switch to 12/12.
whats up, the two plants there share a 4oohps. and i feed every 4 days, what am i doing wrong?.
i topped each plant 4 times, if you know what i mean.pulled off 4 topps from each plant so id get double colas. but not everywere i pulled off the tops, have grown back, double?.
im not very happy. looks like id get an 1/8oz from eash plant. waste of time.
but im not giving up, ive about 30 plants vegging.
i wont give up, till i can do it.
 

TeeHC

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Please note to self that clipping the tops stresses the plant to a certain degree and what you gain in tops, you lose time in weeks.

You have stressed the plant slightly and set it back by about a week or so. Euforia is a quick breed so be patient.

Hope this helps ?

TeeHC
 

crazy-mental

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looking sweet .... crazy....I like those plants..
as did i. the larger one of the two, is hermie. fucking fem seeds. and with it been 3 weeks 12/12. its proply infected the other plant.
ive killed the hermie cos im going to be putting some girls into 12/12. just been safe, but dont want any trace of hermieness, around.
it was a shame, ive cud not kill it, ive just put it in the corner of the garden, well away from my grows,im growing indoors. it will be dead in a week i bet, but i wouldnt have killed it. the weather will have done it.
the plants no good to me, the seeds will also:roll: be 100% if the plant was hermie from seed. wont they?.:blsmoke::peace:
 

tahoe58

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thats a good question....some hermie is environmentally driven or is genetically driven...can't tell you which one...there is tons of debate on this .....don't know if there really is a firm answer.... :blsmoke:
as did i. the larger one of the two, is hermie. fucking fem seeds. and with it been 3 weeks 12/12. its proply infected the other plant.
ive killed the hermie cos im going to be putting some girls into 12/12. just been safe, but dont want any trace of hermieness, around.
it was a shame, ive cud not kill it, ive just put it in the corner of the garden, well away from my grows,im growing indoors. it will be dead in a week i bet, but i wouldnt have killed it. the weather will have done it.
the plants no good to me, the seeds will also:roll: be 100% if the plant was hermie from seed. wont they?.:blsmoke::peace:
 

crazy-mental

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what?, whether a plant is hermie from seed? or just goes that way?.
i dont know, but id say all plants can be turned hermie due to bad liting/stress ect.. but some plants must be hermie from seed.
i also think fem seeds are a gamble. esp. new growers, that want bud fast, and cannot wait to get normal seeds, or dont have the space, to be growing both males and females.
but id say its the same hermies vs females, and if you cannot tell sex in time then all your plants/clones, will be hermie, and its hard to get away from, esp. if your new to growing.
id say stick to reg. seeds. and youll be safer than sorry.
something id like to know, has anyone ever got 10 fem seeds, and they were all 100% female, ive tryed 5 times now and always 50/50% and on the packet it says. 99.9 female. had anyone ever had 100%, with 10 seeds or more from the same packet?.
 

tahoe58

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I think Skunk said that he had 101 out of ten before....but I totally hear what ur saying....thanks for your thoughts! :peace::joint::peace::joint::peace:
what?, whether a plant is hermie from seed? or just goes that way?.
i dont know, but id say all plants can be turned hermie due to bad liting/stress ect.. but some plants must be hermie from seed.
i also think fem seeds are a gamble. esp. new growers, that want bud fast, and cannot wait to get normal seeds, or dont have the space, to be growing both males and females.
but id say its the same hermies vs females, and if you cannot tell sex in time then all your plants/clones, will be hermie, and its hard to get away from, esp. if your new to growing.
id say stick to reg. seeds. and youll be safer than sorry.
something id like to know, has anyone ever got 10 fem seeds, and they were all 100% female, ive tryed 5 times now and always 50/50% and on the packet it says. 99.9 female. had anyone ever had 100%, with 10 seeds or more from the same packet?.
 
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