SomeGuy
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big bud
iquana juice
cal mag
other stuff.
between 900 and 1000 ppm
If you read back I had a ph problem that has since been corrected, all new growth since has looked great. shit happens when the pens fail
Someguys Perpetual Parabolic SCROG Cabinet grow (trying to actually keep a journal)
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iquana juice
cal mag
other stuff.
between 900 and 1000 ppm
If you read back I had a ph problem that has since been corrected, all new growth since has looked great. shit happens when the pens fail
SomeGuy
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I have carbon filter material covering the exhaust case fans. I use this same set up in my clone bin and in my bud drying bin. No smells yet.
The effectiveness of the material will deteriorate over time but they are cheap. It is just filters from an in-home composter or something.
YungMoolaBaby
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Dude are you serious right now?Very nice, your plants seem really far along.. you can already see some brown pistils.. these plants might be ready before 5 weeks
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Someguy, awesome grow. I love the ingenuity.
Tatan
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Look at how many brown pistils he has
gumball
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I have carbon filter material covering the exhaust case fans. I use this same set up in my clone bin and in my bud drying bin. No smells yet.
Hey someguy, your girls are lookin great man!
Would you mind sharing the make and model for your carbon filter material? I have had a time finding the right one and would love to look into the option that works good for you.
Thanks and keep 'em green!
YungMoolaBaby
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It's not the fact if they're brown or not. It's if the fact the bud is ripe dude. And at 5 weeks, I'm pretty sure MOST if not all cannabis plants (except ruderalis) take longer to ripen for the full effect. Do your research.
SomeGuy
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They do look far along. It is really strain dependent. Some plants will look further along than they really are. This is why when you judge from pistil color vs. trichome you have the potential to be off. I do judge from the "look" of the plant, but in all fairness I have been growing for years and can tell what they are "supposed" to look like. Pictures really are not a good judge in general. Lighting plays a huge part in how plants "look" in a picture.
I have never pulled a plant before 8 weeks unless it was a botched grow.. and that does happen. This is my second time with this plant and it does start strong through the first half of flower. The weight is put on through the second half... My friend said I could have pulled at 7weeks, but I went 9 last time. I will go 8 this time because the last week let them ripen past my liking. Preference plays a large part in how long plants really take to finish.
Peace and love to all! lol
SomeGuy
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I am sorry! I bought the filter material at a thrift store. It was the replacement filters for those fancy indoor composting bins. I just cover the exhaust side of my case fans and it does the trick. They do need replacing now and then but for a cheap, effective alternative to running a big fan and scrubber they are worth it.
SomeGuy
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Yea man, just in time really. The cabinet gets the gear pulled out of it and will be gifted to a friend to play with... Maybe... that or it goes into the garbage. I finished a cloning bin and the flower bin I showed. I will probably have a few years of growing out of bins before I will be settled somewhere for the long-term. Once I am in a somewhat permanent location I will be building out the new metal cabinet I have and probably other stuff like you. Depends on the state I end up in I suppose as to how whole hog I will go. After starting growing... the real problem is I cant/dont want to stop.
SomeGuy
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BTW, thanks for making me take a closer look. (+rep) After looking through a bunch of material I think they may be exhibiting Mag Deficiency caused by too much calcium. This would be my hard ass water having a bad effect. This may be a secondary problem that is still present after fixing ph. The interveinal chlorosis is on the older leaves. Also some of the small bud leaf ends were twisting and praying. My water is over 200ppm. I think I will try 1/4 tsp per gl of epsom salts to help reduce the lockout symptoms.
I will try this for the next few feedings and reduce overall ppm to 700. Then I will pluck the hurt leaves and see if the new growth corrects itself.
mag def:
IAm5toned
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the Cal in the Cal mag will not help the calcium toxicity that is causing his phosphorus lockout man.
from what I know about organic chemistry (very limited) the solution would be to lower the ph.... calcium is very alkaline, associated with high ph.
the high ph causes the lockout of other nutes, showing signs of def's in the plant, even with heavy feeding; whereas the actual problem is more closely related to the high levels of calcium causing the medium to become more alkaline (higher ph), not an actual nutrient deficiency. lower the ph, the lockout goes away.... calcium by itself is relatively harmless to plants; but when dissolved by acidic water, it wreaks havoc on the ph over time. your hempy, flush the fuck out of those bitches, hit them with some 5.5-5.9 ph'd additive nutes after the flush.
at least thats what i would do. but i havent grown in hydro for almost 10 years, so take it with a grain of salt
from what I know about organic chemistry (very limited) the solution would be to lower the ph.... calcium is very alkaline, associated with high ph.
the high ph causes the lockout of other nutes, showing signs of def's in the plant, even with heavy feeding; whereas the actual problem is more closely related to the high levels of calcium causing the medium to become more alkaline (higher ph), not an actual nutrient deficiency. lower the ph, the lockout goes away.... calcium by itself is relatively harmless to plants; but when dissolved by acidic water, it wreaks havoc on the ph over time. your hempy, flush the fuck out of those bitches, hit them with some 5.5-5.9 ph'd additive nutes after the flush.
at least thats what i would do. but i havent grown in hydro for almost 10 years, so take it with a grain of salt
SomeGuy
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I am pretty sure it is a mag def caused by the calcium toxicity in the water. The benefit of the salts to free up the nutrient lock-out is different from cal mag. At least from what I was told.the Cal in the Cal mag will not help the calcium toxicity that is causing his phosphorus lockout man.
I have given cal mag at full strength the last couple of feedings. Along with some earth juice microblast (phos). The ph problem really threw things off. I think I will take it easy since they are not digressing too rapidly and flush them tonight really well. Then maybe a very light feeding.
They are also growing very rapidly at this point... so it is hard to know what to make of it. I have to say, I might go back to using all BMO products for a base nutrient.
purplecream
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what's your ph level at right now?
SomeGuy
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I am at 6 right now. Thats where I have always kept it through a long string of grows. I was givng advanced Nutrients a shot but will probably go back to bmo for my base nutes and only use AN's additives. I think the nutrients coupled with my hard-water are a bad mix.
purplecream
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^^ do you grow in soil or hydro?