Why Legalization should be Stopped! (wait, hear me out!)

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If cannabis was legal it wouldn't be as fun anymore

 

[fdd2blk]

yes, there are second chances.

i "legally" grow 3 pounds right now. it's what my county allows. i realize plants counts don't count anymore, but my county still recognizes them. in an "unofficial way". i'm pretty safe. change it to an ounce and i will be back to being scared.

 

[Keenly2]

youll do just fine... 25 sq feet is plenty

why do so many people want to deny so many of us the legal ability to grow and possess


so far from what i see, its either

A) i wont make money anymore

or

B) its already legal for me so i dont care

 

[fdd2blk]

the "ounce" theory you came up with came from your example of 5 people living together with the 25 sq feet of growing space...


if you cant grow what you need in 25 sq feet..... i need not even finish the sentence

25 sq feet is plenty

fuck 5 sq feet is plenty

it's not a theory. it's clearly written in the initiative.


what if five people live at the same address? a 5 X 5 table is enough to provide five people with 3 pounds per year? is it?

and you aren't allowed to POSSES more than an ounce at at time.

it's written so most people will end up buying from a club.

 

[Professor Puff.n.Tuff]

how can i grow my needed 3 pounds per year when i'm only allowed to posses an ounce at a time?

if someone can answer this i may vote YES.

I dont have an answer, but among this comment you have made several others that I agree with. Others have also made good points but I feel you are seeing things in the long term, and more realistic manner.

yes, there are second chances.

i "legally" grow 3 pounds right now. it's what my county allows. i realize plants counts don't count anymore, but my county still recognizes them. in an "unofficial way". i'm pretty safe. change it to an ounce and i will be back to being scared.

This proves my point about the legistics about it. People on here will fight to the death and declare that they do not have limits anymore now that SB 420 was removed. Not PROP 215. Also I would like everyone to REMOVE anything regarding SB 420 in their signature. SB 420 was not in your favor and was put in place by government without the permission of the voters, that is why it was removed, because we never voted on it. And even though senate bill 420 was removed there are still limits. You have to prove you need what you are growing...

Think about things long term more than the short term if it goes legal. There is too much to gain from our government for them to let you be the greedy ones. On any level too. Not just the ones like the guy that started this thread that grows for profit. Think about the guy that said you cant produce moonshine anymore, nor oppium, legally. The government is going to tax it and oversee it to the extreme at some point, how soon, I dont know?!?!

 

[Keenly2]

and how are you going to get caught possesing more than that?


dont bring more than an ounce with you anywhere and you will be fine

im voting yes, because its a drastic improvement on what currently applies to me as far as the law goes


im fucking tired of being paranoid about my plants and my smoke

 

[fdd2blk]

youll do just fine... 25 sq feet is plenty

why do so many people want to deny so many of us the legal ability to grow and possess


so far from what i see, its either

A) i wont make money anymore

or

B) its already legal for me so i dont care

i'm not really worried about me. i am simply bringing up questionable points. why you all gotta make it personal? some have even leaned towards name calling. i'm just trying to fully understand things. most seem to be simply jumping on a pot train, blindly.

 

[Professor Puff.n.Tuff]

it's not a theory. it's clearly written in the initiative.


what if five people live at the same address? a 5 X 5 table is enough to provide five people with 3 pounds per year? is it?

and you aren't allowed to POSSES more than an ounce at at time.

it's written so most people will end up buying from a club.

I need an ounce every two to four weeks, why do I have to go re-up all the time? Growing wouldnt even be efficient anymore...

 

[fdd2blk]

and how are you going to get caught possesing more than that?


dont bring more than an ounce with you anywhere and you will be fine

im voting yes, because its a drastic improvement on what currently applies to me as far as the law goes


im fucking tired of being paranoid about my plants and my smoke

based on your reasoning, ...


i'm gonna go kill me some more hookers.


just make sure they don't see me.

 

[Professor Puff.n.Tuff]

and how are you going to get caught possesing more than that?


dont bring more than an ounce with you anywhere and you will be fine

im voting yes, because its a drastic improvement on what currently applies to me as far as the law goes


im fucking tired of being paranoid about my plants and my smoke

Things do NEED to be rewritten and redefined. I agree, but to give up total control may be detrimental.

 

[fdd2blk]

I need an ounce every two to four weeks, why do I have to go re-up all the time? Growing wouldnt even be efficient anymore...

i guess if you do a rotating perpetual you might be able to pull it off.

 

[fdd2blk]

once we vote yes we are owned by the feds.

at this point i'm still undecided.

i want to learn more on where the big boys in the state stand and what we may be in for. we have a few months yet to figure it out. lets NOT blow it.

 

[Keenly2]

based on your reasoning, ...


i'm gonna go kill me some more hookers.


just make sure they don't see me.

well the bill is a huge step up from my position

and im going for it




so if this passes does everything MMJ related just disappear?


if this becomes legal your legal medical status for you amount just becomes null and void?

 

[Padawanbater2]

See this is where you are completely wrong, brother....

If this proposition doesn't pass because stoners are too lazy to vote and selfish asshole commercial growers like the OP want to keep making an easy buck from the prohibition on cannabis, it will set back the legalization movement 20 years.

First of all, the anti-pot crusaders would be invigorated in the activism and will start to try to chip away at progress we've already made, like decriminalization and MMJ in some states. Every asshole republican legislator will be on meet the press or fox sunday talking about how even the hippies out in california think pot is dangerous and don't want it legal. The 24/7 newsmedia will spin this for weeks (as long as no celebrities die...) saying the same thing and asking what this means for the legalization movement. Pretty soon you'll find support for pot law reform dwindling and it will be another 20-30 years before legalization is up for a vote again.

There will be no second chances. You can pass something else to improve this law later, but if this thing fails, that will be it for some time. Please don't fuck this up for everyone california. Please.

And on top of everything, the whole argument against this is completely absurd. You're saying you would rather risk felony prosecution for growing illegally rather than face a penalty for exceeding the number of plants your are LEGALLY allowed to grow? That seems kinda retarded if you ask me.

+Rep, great post

 

[blueberry1221]

Never in my whole life did i think i would ever hear someone who smokes and grows weed say vote no on legalization. so you can still make a profit off it. so you think the independent grower for profit will die out? let me ask you this what about the vineyards, you can get a bottle of cheap nasty wine for 11 bucks or you can buy the great wine at 200-400 dollers a bottle, and those people seem to do alright. so you think lifting a proabition on weed will make you lose profits i think you just grow crappy weed, and when your making 2500-3500 a lbs and you say you grow 2 pounds thats 5000- 7000 dollers and you know as well as i do that it didn't cost you more then 2000 dollers if that to grow it. thats a 5000 doller profit and you want me to risk going to jail for smoking weed so you can make more then a 100 percent profit fuck off!!! vote yes !!!! p.s if your using it for medicinal purposes then why the hell are you selling it anyway it wasn't made medicly legal so you could have an easy fast income its people like you who abuse the system that have keep us in this prohabition for as long as it has your the poster child for every propaganda statement and example the anti legalization groups have ever used.

 

[fdd2blk]

well the bill is a huge step up from my position

and im going for it




so if this passes does everything MMJ related just disappear?


if this becomes legal your legal medical status for you amount just becomes null and void?

i don't know. i'm not sure if it even addresses that. i don't think it addresses those ALREADY in jail either. i don't think anybody would be getting out if they are already in. that's NOT cool.

 

[fdd2blk]

Never in my whole life did i think i would ever hear someone who smokes and grows weed say vote no on legalization. so you can still make a profit off it. so you think the independent grower for profit will die out? let me ask you this what about the vineyards, you can get a bottle of cheap nasty wine for 11 bucks or you can buy the great wine at 200-400 dollers a bottle, and those people seem to do alright. so you think lifting a proabition on weed will make you lose profits i think you just grow crappy weed, and when your making 2500-3500 a lbs and you say you grow 2 pounds thats 5000- 7000 dollers and you know as well as i do that it didn't cost you more then 2000 dollers if that to grow it. thats a 5000 doller profit and you want me to risk going to jail for smoking weed so you can make more then a 100 percent profit fuck off!!! vote yes !!!! p.s if your using it for medicinal purposes then why the hell are you selling it anyway it wasn't made medicly legal so you could have an easy fast income its people like you who abuse the system that have keep us in this prohabition for as long as it has your the poster child for every propaganda statement and example the anti legalization groups have ever used.

who is buying the pot from medical clubs today?
who is supplying it?
those bastards.

 

[fdd2blk]

why the one ounce limit? i can have a truckload of beer if i want.

 

[That 5hit]

i guess if you do a rotating perpetual you might be able to pull it off.

yeah with a 5x5 area you could setup a grow where you pull down an oz every 2 weeks maybe even every week

if there is no plant limit..... lets explore this

1oz dryed at any given time
space 5x5
i could have 4 trees at differant stages of flower
and just pick off an oz as needed
pluss i own a 3 flat so i can say im renting out the other two levels and have grows going on in the back of each unit
unit 1 5x5 4 plants in flower
unit 2 5x5 4 plants in veg
unit 3 5x5 1 huge mother

now i understand everyone dont live in the big city (chicago, but this is what i'll do if i live in cali) and or own buildings

but you own land "rent" out the barn or whater try to make it work
vote yes and try to change it later

 

[Keenly2]

why the one ounce limit? i can have a truckload of beer if i want.

because they dont want you to sell it is really the only "logical" reason i can think of why they would have that


which is ridiculous

why is it not a crime to posses more than a pound of corn