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[Blazed Hippie]

I feel like 8/8 goes against what nature has intended. If you really wanna be hardcore gradually switch the time 15 mins daily till ur on 12/12. LOL I think 8/8 is strickly emergency situation IMO.

Edit: overthinking things is the number one killer! just emulate nature.

 

[hillbilly345]

so i potted some seedlings in fox farms ocean forest and watered them with softened water, and now they look like there burnt, is there any way I can flush with my well water? Ill be using my well water from now on. Thanks.

 

[Blazed Hippie]

so i potted some seedlings in fox farms ocean forest and watered them with softened water, and now they look like there burnt, is there any way I can flush with my well water? Ill be using my well water from now on. Thanks.

You overwatered probably, that happened to me on this current grow, they all withered and turned yellowish brownish. Dont flush it will make it worse.

 

[riddleme]

Yo Riddle Me !!!!

Just picked up where you said "8/8" has an advantage over "12/12" because you can squeeze in an extra day every 3 days (as far as the plant is concerned) Very interesting. I came on to ask another question on another topic all together but I thought I'd ask this first - I assume that the plant and its buds would finish slightly smaller than they would have done IF they had been given "12/12" - so you get a smaller harvest but in less time - Is that assumption correct? Or is the difference of losing 4 hours so minimal to the harvest that its worth saving aaaall that electricity with 8/8???

I've never heard of 8/8 before, would you be so kind as to Elaborate? Much Obliged !

As Blazed said 8/8 is for emergency situations, like I have to move or my inlaws are coming, so your in a place where you need to chop early you go to 8/8 to get a bit more finish before the chop, I would never suggest going 8/8 on purpose but some will try it since I said it, you can bet on that

 

[riddleme]

so i potted some seedlings in fox farms ocean forest and watered them with softened water, and now they look like there burnt, is there any way I can flush with my well water? Ill be using my well water from now on. Thanks.

Yeah softened water is very bad for MJ and you DO need to flush it out as it is full of salt (sodium, how it is softened) not sure if using your well water is a good idea?
You may even need to flush twice before turning around

You overwatered probably, that happened to me on this current grow, they all withered and turned yellowish brownish. Dont flush it will make it worse.

Sorry to contradict you on the flush but he needs to get those salts out of the soil or the plants will die

 

[Blazed Hippie]

Sorry to contradict you on the flush but he needs to get those salts out of the soil or the plants will die

I thought soft water was just regular city water? I use city water all the time its all good. If softened water really has salts then you are correct. He needs to flush it.

 

[safety comes first]

I agree Blazing Hippe Dude, I was only asking my questionout of interest, although I didn't get an answer to my question from anybody lol.

I'll just continue assuming that the reduction of bud isn't worth the savings in electricity.

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Anyway, the question I came on here today to ask was about WATER.

Unfortunately I cant set up a R/O machine where I live; having an inexplanable pipe leading into a room with no faucet wouldn't be a good look. Likeswise, buying R/O or Distilled water would soon become a pain in the ass, and being seen carrying that shit every couple days or being seen having it constantly delivered wouldnt be very "safe" either. Finally, I have no where to discreetly store Gallons or suspicious water where I live.

...and since 0 PPM water is unavailable to me, I'll have to use Tap Water.

Recently I requested a test of my tap water from my water company, so I now have a break down of EVREYTHING in my Tap, from Calcuim to Cyanide !!! Turns out my water isn't that bad, its 250-300 PPM, and I've found a product that attaches to my shower head that removes all Chlorine and all toxins and leaves my PH 8 water PH 7 neutral. It also reduces the PPM a little. So my Water is Better then having 500+ PMM right?

I just wanted to ask if anybody on here has any advice for somebody like me about to use Tap Water?

Just so you know, I've never grown anything before, but when I do it will be a DWC. I plan on using the 0-8-16 Lucas Formula too, and I don't plan on changing the Reservior at all until I flush before Harvest.

Any thoughts?

 

[riddleme]

I answered your question???

and as to using tap water I always have, never had it tested and simply run it thru a brita filter seems like your shower head thingy is similar mine comes out of the brita at 6.8,,,but I'm in soil, not DWC or hydro ???

I'm pretty sure not emptying your res is a bad thing but will let SL answer this one

I agree Blazing Hippe Dude, I was only asking my questionout of interest, although I didn't get an answer to my question from anybody lol.

I'll just continue assuming that the reduction of bud isn't worth the savings in electricity.

_________________________________


Anyway, the question I came on here today to ask was about WATER.

Unfortunately I cant set up a R/O machine where I live; having an inexplanable pipe leading into a room with no faucet wouldn't be a good look. Likeswise, buying R/O or Distilled water would soon become a pain in the ass, and being seen carrying that shit every couple days or being seen having it constantly delivered wouldnt be very "safe" either. Finally, I have no where to discreetly store Gallons or suspicious water where I live.

...and since 0 PPM water is unavailable to me, I'll have to use Tap Water.

Recently I requested a test of my tap water from my water company, so I now have a break down of EVREYTHING in my Tap, from Calcuim to Cyanide !!! Turns out my water isn't that bad, its 250-300 PPM, and I've found a product that attaches to my shower head that removes all Chlorine and all toxins and leaves my PH 8 water PH 7 neutral. It also reduces the PPM a little. So my Water is Better then having 500+ PMM right?

I just wanted to ask if anybody on here has any advice for somebody like me about to use Tap Water?

Just so you know, I've never grown anything before, but when I do it will be a DWC. I plan on using the 0-8-16 Lucas Formula too, and I don't plan on changing the Reservior at all until I flush before Harvest.

Any thoughts?

 

[Abysmal Darkenin]

https://www.rollitup.org/newbie-central/323396-flowering-question-day-13-12-a.html

 

[riddleme]

Your buds look fine for 13 days, in fact quite normal

https://www.rollitup.org/newbie-central/323396-flowering-question-day-13-12-a.html

 

[safety comes first]

LOL I was being an comedian Bro dont worry - I meant I never got an answer to the question IS the reduction of bud worth the savings you get from using less electricity? Thanks for expaining that people only do 8/8 if they need to quickly destroy their grow but im curious if anybody ever tested a whole grow doing 8/8 to see if the buds they harvested were worth the electricty they saved. 8/8 would save TONS of electrictry. Im not particularly looking to do that, but its still interesting to me. Im assuming that 8/8 isn't worth the electricty you save, but hey, im only asking out of interest !!! Somebody completely paranoid about about high bills could benefit from 8/8... maybe?

But anyway 8/8 is irrelevant to me I was only thinking out loud, back to my main Newbie question...
... its Good to know that you use Tap Water too!

Most people insist on R/O but right now I can't use it. Do you think your plants in soil are any worse for using Tap Water with a Brita? The Shower Head im talking about can easily be taken on or off and it gives 10'000 gallons or 6 months before it needs changing, which ever comes first. Is there anything else you do or would do with your water?

I hope im not relying on Street Legal to answer my question in more detail, lol, last time I asked about DWC he told me to piss off, fucking Aussie Bastard!!! LOL (thats a joke BTW)

So if anybody using Tap Water in a HYDRO has anything to add here I'll be grateful, I was going to start a separate thread, I might still do it, but since Johnny helped me out on this thread I thought I'd run my question here first. Thanks for picking up on where I said I want to keep the solution in my DWC till Harvest. I was just on THCLUV's thread https://www.rollitup.org/newbie-central/323116-how-often-should-i-change-2.html going into detail about where I read its possible to do that. Legendary Lucas has a thread on how you do it, and it makes perfect sense, but I'd like to find somebody on here that actually does it so I can ask some all important questions....

BTW Anybody Have Any Advice On This Topic ???

 

[riddleme]

any nutrients advice ? ive written what i use now

Yeah sorry I don't do any of the 2 part 3 part rocket fuel stuff so have no idea, I use simple everyday cheap non cannabis specific nutes,,why I didn't say anything,,,,,most of the growers that were using the snake oils and then switched to what I use (Jack's Classic & DynaGro) are having better results and are happier (post all over this sight about it)

 

[riddleme]

LOL I was being an comedian Bro dont worry - I meant I never got an answer to the question IS the reduction of bud worth the savings you get from using less electricity? Thanks for expaining that people only do 8/8 if they need to quickly destroy their grow but im curious if anybody ever tested a whole grow doing 8/8 to see if the buds they harvested were worth the electricty they saved. 8/8 would save TONS of electrictry. Im not particularly looking to do that, but its still interesting to me. Im assuming that 8/8 isn't worth the electricty you save, but hey, im only asking out of interest !!! Somebody completely paranoid about about high bills could benefit from 8/8... maybe?

But anyway 8/8 is irrelevant to me I was only thinking out loud, back to my main Newbie question...
... its Good to know that you use Tap Water too!

Most people insist on R/O but right now I can't use it. Do you think your plants in soil are any worse for using Tap Water with a Brita? The Shower Head im talking about can easily be taken on or off and it gives 10'000 gallons or 6 months before it needs changing, which ever comes first. Is there anything else you do or would do with your water?

I hope im not relying on Street Legal to answer my question in more detail, lol, last time I asked about DWC he told me to piss off, fucking Aussie Bastard!!! LOL (thats a joke BTW)

So if anybody using Tap Water in a HYDRO has anything to add here I'll be grateful, I was going to start a separate thread, I might still do it, but since Johnny helped me out on this thread I thought I'd run my question here first. Thanks for picking up on where I said I want to keep the solution in my DWC till Harvest. I was just on THCLUV's thread https://www.rollitup.org/newbie-central/323116-how-often-should-i-change-2.html going into detail about where I read its possible to do that. Legendary Lucas has a thread on how you do it, and it makes perfect sense, but I'd like to find somebody on here that actually does it so I can ask some all important questions....

BTW Anybody Have Any Advice On This Topic ???

No prob,,,,I doubt if the plant would be all it could be, really don't know if the cost of electricity would offset the results in bud loss???

But like I said someone will do it and maybe we'll hear about it?

Hopefully someone will chime in on the water thing

 

[Abysmal Darkenin]

According to my country prices 400w hps + 100w fans = 0.5 kwh x 24 hours during veg (12 of them half-price cause night energy, that's in my country don't know how is it in USA )so that 6 full price + 6 half price (equal to 3 full price)= 9 x $0.0667262461(0.07)= $0.63 a day x 40 day veg= $25.2. For Flowering i use 400w hps + 2700k 2x85w CFL LOTUS thats like 0,570 kwh x 12 hours (half price cause i use them during night price list and equal to 6 hours day energy) 6 x $0.07= $0,42 x 70 days flowering = $29.4 and after all with two weeks drying period of darkness and 2.4 kwh a day consumption goes round 55$ for my whole grow. Im not such a pinch ass to try 8/8.
I use soil for my garden and fertilizers for 10 $ So my equipment costs $110 + $55+$10 +$5(pots)= $170. Prices in my country are like $10-15 for 1 g medium to high quality. so with these 170 dolars u can buy round 15 grams of weed if u buy at once.

 

[Blazed Hippie]

Take a look at my experience on this subject here.

https://www.rollitup.org/newbie-central/318968-power-consumption-tips-new-growers.html

 

[Abysmal Darkenin]

Use energy saving tool applied to the room network it costs 30 $ and saves round 10-30% for 15kV networks http://www.bezplatno.net/index.html?page=view_slideshow&id=375084&popup=yes&current=375084_large_1256338204.jpg

 

[streetlegal]

Sup riddles,.. is everything cool?..
i can only get on my iphone atm man so im not very available.. iphones are a pia..
hope i havnt left u in it man..

 

[DiZi]

Hi guys, I'm a first time grower (blueberry skunk)and just signed up to this forum (best one online). I started from seeds straight from amsterdam and am now at week 3 (21 days) and the plant is looking amazing.Am using 2 CFL lamps(6500k) for one plant,and have another CFL lamp (2600K) ready for when i switch to 12/12.I should have bought lowrider as i'm looking for quick results but went for the quality and have to be patient now. I live in a country where it's really hard to fine good stuff so i'm out right now...and waiting.
anyways,2 questions:

1.i'm in week 3 of veg stage, and have already leafs coming out with 7 fingers.height is about 10". will post pics later, but the question is can i start flowering from now already,and espcially if i do will it affect my yield?approx how much pounds/grams will i get if i do?

2. i'm on 24h of light, if i do start on 12/12, should i make the transition to darkness slowly (meaning start with 2h of dark and progress to 12) or can i just start on 12/12 like that?

thanks guys

 

[tulewerx]

The rule of thumb is usually 12.5-14".

About the yield...i have no idea. I think there's too many variables to determine how much it would affect your babies. Im just starting as well so this is based purely on what ive read....

You can go straight to 12/12. Thats usually the norm.

Good Luck!
-tulwerx

 

[Rusty Crutch]

LOL I was being an comedian Bro dont worry - I meant I never got an answer to the question IS the reduction of bud worth the savings you get from using less electricity? Thanks for expaining that people only do 8/8 if they need to quickly destroy their grow but im curious if anybody ever tested a whole grow doing 8/8 to see if the buds they harvested were worth the electricty they saved. 8/8 would save TONS of electrictry. Im not particularly looking to do that, but its still interesting to me. Im assuming that 8/8 isn't worth the electricty you save, but hey, im only asking out of interest !!! Somebody completely paranoid about about high bills could benefit from 8/8... maybe?

But anyway 8/8 is irrelevant to me I was only thinking out loud, back to my main Newbie question...
... its Good to know that you use Tap Water too!

Most people insist on R/O but right now I can't use it. Do you think your plants in soil are any worse for using Tap Water with a Brita? The Shower Head im talking about can easily be taken on or off and it gives 10'000 gallons or 6 months before it needs changing, which ever comes first. Is there anything else you do or would do with your water?

I hope im not relying on Street Legal to answer my question in more detail, lol, last time I asked about DWC he told me to piss off, fucking Aussie Bastard!!! LOL (thats a joke BTW)

So if anybody using Tap Water in a HYDRO has anything to add here I'll be grateful, I was going to start a separate thread, I might still do it, but since Johnny helped me out on this thread I thought I'd run my question here first. Thanks for picking up on where I said I want to keep the solution in my DWC till Harvest. I was just on THCLUV's thread https://www.rollitup.org/newbie-central/323116-how-often-should-i-change-2.html going into detail about where I read its possible to do that. Legendary Lucas has a thread on how you do it, and it makes perfect sense, but I'd like to find somebody on here that actually does it so I can ask some all important questions....

BTW Anybody Have Any Advice On This Topic ???

You will need to change the water at least once a fortnight. I change the water and add fresh Nutrients every week in DWC and Hydro. You're plants convert nutrients into salts and when that builds up your plants will stop absorbing nutrients. They will literally be drinking and swimming in their own shit. I only add fresh water to the res between flushes as adding more nutrients will just raise the EC and burn your plants.

Your tap water should be fine. You will need to let it sit in buckets for 24-48 hours to allow the chlorine to fully dissipate. I usually mix nutrients in 4 x 20L (5 gal) buckets a day before flushing so I can check that the EC and PH are stable before adding to the reservoir. I aerate the buckets with an aerator and air stones while they are aging to get as much O² dissolved in the water too.