Clones? Help me out

chronichaze

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I took about 20 clones off of my 4 plants 8 days ago. I have them in an aquarium with a plastic lid on it. The temperature is constantly between 72-75F my humidity is between 95-100%. They have been in there for 8 days. There is lot new growth and a whole nother set of leaves have sprung and i still cant see no roots. There is a bit of yellowing on some and i heard thats the first signs of rooting. They never wilted or anything. They look healthier then the day i put them in there. All i want to know is if i did this right and how much longer i should wait to try the pull test. Also they are in a peat pallets.
 

doniawon

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day 10 to 12. look for the ones that have obvious growth. gently pull and if they are anchored in youll know.
 

Jubei485

Member
I like to use the soil method with 1/4th my nutrient solution. I've done the dome method but perfer to use just red plastic drinking cups, soil, rooting gel and a super heavy watering of my 1/4 water/ nutrient solution. Since I've started this method I've had a 100percent success rate. You can't fuck it up.
 

chronichaze

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there is obvious growth on at least half of them. i will try in a couple days to see but if new growth means roots then at least 15 of them have roots. Im only worried about my white rhinos. they have at least an inch of growth in the last couple days
 

aficionado

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There are a lot of factors to consider when cloning. Here are some pointers from my experience in addition to what you are doing already:

1) Take clones from the bottom of the plant - don't take the growth nodes at the top. This makes a huge difference in rooting time.
2) Don't take large clones. More plant = more energy needed to sustain it = less energy to develop roots. The clones need very little leaf matter to carry it over during the rooting process.
3) I find it works best to use a rockwool cube (the small ones) to help keep the plant stabilized.
4) When you take the clone, cut it with a clean scalpel at a 45 degree angle and immediately apply a rooting hormone. Then stick it in a cube.
3) Water with ph balanced water (slightly acidic) and a light vitamin B enriched solution (like Root Excellurator). No nutrients needed during rooting.
5) Keep the cubes moist, but not saturated. You want to promote root development by having the plant 'search' for water. Too much water and it will rot. I usually water a tray of about 100 clones once every 5-7 days.
6) Roots need a lot of O2 to develop. Aerate your water (filtered) with an air stone and again, don't overdo the watering. Most of the plants needed water will be absorbed through the leaves in your canopy anyhow (hence the high humidity).
7) Keep your light minimal. You are supporting root development, not growth. Clones only need a weak full spectrum bulb to get enough energy to develop the roots. I find a T5 about 3ft away is ideal.
8 ) Warm the roots with a heating mat to reduce rooting time. The heat directly applied to the rooting area (74-78 degrees) will promote root development and keep your dome humidity high.
9) Don't mess with them. I cant tell you how many times I ruined a perfectly good clone by pulling it to see if the roots were developed. When you see roots poking out the cubes, they are ready for the pull test.

Thats about all I have to share. I enjoy near 95% cloning success rate by following these steps with a variety of strains. Take what tidbits from my experiences that makes sense to you, and good luck!
 

doniawon

Well-Known Member
There are a lot of factors to consider when cloning. Here are some pointers from my experience in addition to what you are doing already:

1) Take clones from the bottom of the plant - don't take the growth nodes at the top. This makes a huge difference in rooting time.
2) Don't take large clones. More plant = more energy needed to sustain it = less energy to develop roots. The clones need very little leaf matter to carry it over during the rooting process.
3) I find it works best to use a rockwool cube (the small ones) to help keep the plant stabilized.
4) When you take the clone, cut it with a clean scalpel at a 45 degree angle and immediately apply a rooting hormone. Then stick it in a cube.
3) Water with ph balanced water (slightly acidic) and a light vitamin B enriched solution (like Root Excellurator). No nutrients needed during rooting.
5) Keep the cubes moist, but not saturated. You want to promote root development by having the plant 'search' for water. Too much water and it will rot. I usually water a tray of about 100 clones once every 5-7 days.
6) Roots need a lot of O2 to develop. Aerate your water (filtered) with an air stone and again, don't overdo the watering. Most of the plants needed water will be absorbed through the leaves in your canopy anyhow (hence the high humidity).
7) Keep your light minimal. You are supporting root development, not growth. Clones only need a weak full spectrum bulb to get enough energy to develop the roots. I find a T5 about 3ft away is ideal.
8 ) Warm the roots with a heating mat to reduce rooting time. The heat directly applied to the rooting area (74-78 degrees) will promote root development and keep your dome humidity high.
9) Don't mess with them. I cant tell you how many times I ruined a perfectly good clone by pulling it to see if the roots were developed. When you see roots poking out the cubes, they are ready for the pull test.

Thats about all I have to share. I enjoy near 95% cloning success rate by following these steps with a variety of strains. Take what tidbits from my experiences that makes sense to you, and good luck!
That is alot to consider before cloning. just a lil scary huh?.. they like low light 75-80f and 90%rh.. bottom heat is good and reduce rh after the first week to 70%..
 

doniawon

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there is obvious growth on at least half of them. i will try in a couple days to see but if new growth means roots then at least 15 of them have roots. Im only worried about my white rhinos. they have at least an inch of growth in the last couple days
why would you need to do a "pull test" when you see the roots already?
 

aficionado

Active Member
why would you need to do a "pull test" when you see the roots already?
I meant to do a pull test when you see a couple clones pop roots - usually I have a whole tray and when I see some with roots, then the others are likely not that far behind, unless of course they are not rooting.
 

sixstring2112

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if they are putting out new sets of leaves they are 95% rooted. start giving them some air now by opening the lid 3 or 4 times a day until you can leave it off.
 

chronichaze

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Well out of the 19 cuttings i had 10 have shown roots 7 others were anchored and will probably be showing by tomorrow. I am happy with my results 17 out of 19. Some people try to make it soo complicated but as long as it is in the right environment then they should do fine. I will try different things one day but i am happy with my results the first time for clones. Thanks everybody with the help
 

topfuel

Active Member
Its much easier than aficionado makes it seem. Just get the plastic tray/dome with the big clear plastic lid at a hydro store. Usually $10-20. I cut about 15 clippings. Put them right into the cloning powder and then right into a rockwool cube. I presoak the rockwool cubes in a mixture of about 2-3 oz cloning solution to a gallon of water. Every day lift the lid for a few seconds to get fresh air. Lightly water the cubes every 2-3 days (maybe less). In about 10-12 days 14-15 clones are ready. I use a cfl in the chrome dome (the $10 cheapies at a hardware store) right on top of the lid for the light with the 6500k spectrum. I leave the light on 24/7.
 

don2009

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Well out of the 19 cuttings i had 10 have shown roots 7 others were anchored and will probably be showing by tomorrow. I am happy with my results 17 out of 19. Some people try to make it soo complicated but as long as it is in the right environment then they should do fine. I will try different things one day but i am happy with my results the first time for clones. Thanks everybody with the help
How long did it take your roots to show?
 
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