Straight Sativa
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[video=youtube;FGF7EY2Ucm8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGF7EY2Ucm8[/video]
Holy shit @ guy who hasen't eaten since 12 years old
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crystalman
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i call bullshit
Straight Sativa
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Guys, I find it hard to believe that he would lie about something like this knowing he would be under observation for weeks without eating, drinking, urinating or having a bowel movement.
mindphuk
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Find it hard to believe or not, the man lies. Indian mystics and gurus make extraordinary claims all of the time, probably because they are rarely called on it. Here's one that was:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article7067989.ece
mindphuk
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They aren't doing the right tests!
Category: Skepticism
Posted on: April 29, 2010 10:14 PM, by PZ Myers
Some yogi in India claims that he hasn't eaten, drunk, or used a bathroom in 70 years.
Yeah, right.
Now the Indian military is studying him because, obviously, soldiers who don't need to be provisioned would be rather useful…which assumes that this nonsense is even worth studying.
And they're plugging him into electrodes and recording EMGs and EEGs? Why? That's not interesting at all. The interesting claim is the idea that he doesn't eat or drink. Those don't test that in the slightest, but do lend a pseudo-sciencey air to the proceedings.
They claim he has been observed closely for a week, and hasn't ingested or excreted anything at all. I don't believe it. I suspect that there have been some very sloppy procedures going on, or that the guy has an accomplice or assistant, or both.
What they really need is a James Randi. If I were in charge, I'd give the yogi a very nice single room with books and a meditation mat and whatever non-edible, non-drinkable luxury items he wanted…and I'd put him in there for four weeks, monitored by video cameras, and lock the door. Just to be nice, I'd also put a couple of bottles of water in the room, in case he breaks. But if he is really able to live without sustenance, that's the ability we have to test first, and test well.
If he came out after a month, perfectly healthy, the water in the room untouched, the video cameras showing no untoward intervention, then we can talk about fancy-pants physiological testing.
Category: Skepticism
Posted on: April 29, 2010 10:14 PM, by PZ Myers
Some yogi in India claims that he hasn't eaten, drunk, or used a bathroom in 70 years.
Yeah, right.
Now the Indian military is studying him because, obviously, soldiers who don't need to be provisioned would be rather useful…which assumes that this nonsense is even worth studying.
Two cameras have been set up in his room, while a mobile camera films him when he goes outside, guaranteeing round-the-clock observation.
His body will be scanned and his brain and heart activity measured with electrodes.
"The observation from this study may throw light on human survival without food and water," said Dr G. Ilavazahagan, who is directing the research.
That short description already tells me they're going at this all wrong. He goes outside? Where? How secure is this test?His body will be scanned and his brain and heart activity measured with electrodes.
"The observation from this study may throw light on human survival without food and water," said Dr G. Ilavazahagan, who is directing the research.
And they're plugging him into electrodes and recording EMGs and EEGs? Why? That's not interesting at all. The interesting claim is the idea that he doesn't eat or drink. Those don't test that in the slightest, but do lend a pseudo-sciencey air to the proceedings.
They claim he has been observed closely for a week, and hasn't ingested or excreted anything at all. I don't believe it. I suspect that there have been some very sloppy procedures going on, or that the guy has an accomplice or assistant, or both.
What they really need is a James Randi. If I were in charge, I'd give the yogi a very nice single room with books and a meditation mat and whatever non-edible, non-drinkable luxury items he wanted…and I'd put him in there for four weeks, monitored by video cameras, and lock the door. Just to be nice, I'd also put a couple of bottles of water in the room, in case he breaks. But if he is really able to live without sustenance, that's the ability we have to test first, and test well.
If he came out after a month, perfectly healthy, the water in the room untouched, the video cameras showing no untoward intervention, then we can talk about fancy-pants physiological testing.
Straight Sativa
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@ Mindphuk:
Just to be clear the link you posted is about a guru, not a yogi. They are two distinctly different things. And TBQH most, if not all guru's usually are full of shit.
But I do get where you're comming from questioning the methods of observation used by the institute, as there probably is no way of monitering where he is at ALL times. Perhaps India's government could even be in on this? You know, Making false claims like that just to say that they are the most advanced culture and will be able to have manned missions to Mars within ten years!
Just to be clear the link you posted is about a guru, not a yogi. They are two distinctly different things. And TBQH most, if not all guru's usually are full of shit.
But I do get where you're comming from questioning the methods of observation used by the institute, as there probably is no way of monitering where he is at ALL times. Perhaps India's government could even be in on this? You know, Making false claims like that just to say that they are the most advanced culture and will be able to have manned missions to Mars within ten years!
mindphuk
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Yes, I know. I lump all mystics, gurus, yogis, swamis, etc. together. The point isn't what they call themselves, the point is that when they make claims of the supernatural, I'm going to be quite skeptical.
BTW, why be so harsh with gurus specifically? Doesn't guru in India just mean 'teacher?' Couldn't a yogi also be a guru? Forgive me for my ignorance, but you seem to know more about the terms than I do.
Straight Sativa
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Yogi's are adherents of yoga (hence the word "yogi") and devoted to meditation through which they realize the entire cosmos is within their body, making deep-seeded connections with their god. And yes, guru does mean teacher, but from my understanding it is associated more with having great knowledge in a supernatural or uncommon area (like the dude trying to kill the skeptic on live TV). I personally just don't believe anyone who says they have those kind of powers, guru or not.
robert 14617
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i haven't eaten since 12 also,12 o'clock and i'm starving
BCBuddy420
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A human body needs nourishment and water to survive end of story, thank you (bs)
Mr.KushMan
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True but not really.
92% of the stuff you use come from the air. Every protein in your body would fall apart into amino acids if your cells didn't grow like that.
Peace
92% of the stuff you use come from the air. Every protein in your body would fall apart into amino acids if your cells didn't grow like that.
Peace
BCBuddy420
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that doesn't make any sense... too vague. What do you mean by " cells didn't grow like that " ? I'm not shooting you down I'm ignorant to what you mean and protein to amino acids and if your going to post a challenge to my statement at least explain it a little better, I like learning new shit! haha thx
CLOSETGROWTH
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He's got a box of snickers hidden somewhere.. 
robert 14617
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maybe he could teach us to grow out our pot with just air
Straight Sativa
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Haha, air and nectar from the gods of course.
