Using Credit Cards to order seeds

[rmax]

Hello All,

Hey, I'm wondering if using a Credit Card to make a seed order is A-OK. I'm in the US.

Have any of you done so?

My thinking is it's no big deal....

Seed banks use an alias on billing.

No one knows if my state is a Medical State or not. OR if I'll pass the seeds onto a grower in a Medical State.

The seeds are packaged stealthy.

Comments?

 

[abudsmoker]

i have done it every time i ordered

 

[rmax]

Abud,

Thanks. Btw... I think I just noticed a pesky coworker snooping through my desk drawer. I hope they didn't take my credit card and order Willie Nelson & Black Domina seeds off the 'Net!

 

[growbuds218]

I also order all my stuff on my own card. It's not a big deal. Alot of places destroy there orders/information etc... after a certain time period.

 

[FilthyFletch]

I advise against using a real credit card to order. I have known 3 people who had issues after using thier own real card. If your gonna use a card get a prepaid visa card as you just charge the card with cash and it doesnt show your real name or real info you can use all aliases and then dump the card after its empty. Using a real card the sale record is kept for over 20 years by the credit card company and th your recoreds are able to be requested by law enforcement and then they have your name, address, usage records, social number and everything right to you.Also you used your own card which isnt so good especilally lately as the crack down on seeds to the us are getting hevay but hopefull you didnt do the number 1 seed order dummy move and have them sent to your home address as that the number 1 way you get yourself watched and that just makes it real easy for the man...So to some up prepaid cards only and never to your own address or a grow site address

 

[LoudBlunts]

so fletch if prepaid cards works....


why do folks claim they dont? which kinda prepaid card should i get? alot of folks say even the prepaid visa gift cards dont work!!!!

which ones should i look into?

 

[bearo420]

i paid with a credit card. but its hard sleeping at night.

 

[dirtyal1223]

i pay with cc every time, god forbid popo spies on my 3 hidden plants

 

[FilthyFletch]

I have always just used the charge and go visa and mastercards found at any local currency exchange or at most walmarts. Cant be the gift card has to be the prepaid ones.Use bogus info and they send you the real fianl card but give you the working temp card with real card issued number on it.Then just make sure the info you supply such as billing zip and such are the same as your order.So if you use the name Joe Schmoe on your order make sure the prepaid card has that name also.Money orders or cashier checks work good to as you can file claim on those if you dont get your items.They wont come looking for your 3 plants but if they do follow your order they can then have reasonable cause to ir scan your home, watch your electric bill and randomly walk dogs near your home. 3 plants or 50 its all manufacturering with intent to distribute...

 

[daddychrisg]

I have always just used the charge and go visa and mastercards found at any local currency exchange or at most walmarts. Cant be the gift card has to be the prepaid ones.Use bogus info and they send you the real fianl card but give you the working temp card with real card issued number on it.Then just make sure the info you supply such as billing zip and such are the same as your order.So if you use the name Joe Schmoe on your order make sure the prepaid card has that name also.Money orders or cashier checks work good to as you can file claim on those if you dont get your items.They wont come looking for your 3 plants but if they do follow your order they can then have reasonable cause to ir scan your home, watch your electric bill and randomly walk dogs near your home. 3 plants or 50 its all manufacturering with intent to distribute...

Last time I bought a Pre-Paid card, they wanted all my info, including my SS#...I did not want to lie about that, and commit some sort of terrorist act! So I have always paid with a CC...Shipped else where of course..

 

[rmax]

Filthy,

Depending on the degree of lust LE has for you, they can get your IP and what not from here.

I think the seed bank will only charge the CC for a total. The seed bank isn't going to itemize for the CC company.

Also, Dr. Chronic as an example... The CC bill doesn't say "Dr. Chronic". It shows their trading name.

I don't think there is anything to worry about. Also, look at the complaints from people who sent cash, etc. Some have had problems.

 

[rmax]

Filthy,

" have them sent to your home address"

Where can you have them sent to maintain secrecy? Have them sent to a friends house? I'll tell you what. If your friend gets in trouble for something and faces jail, he'll sing on you in a minute. And that's the way the game operates.

 

[Space Cowboy]

Cash or money order is always better - no paper trail.

 

[rmax]

Let's break it down here a little bit. Ordering seeds is the least of your worries. Posting here about growing is more troublesome - "Conspiracy to commit a felony."

And if you respond to any of the questions here... Rack up "Aiding and abetting/Accessory to a Felony." And if the person you answer is underage, "Corruption of a minor"....

Which ISPs Are Spying on You?

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These records can be used to trace an internet posting, website visit or an e-mail back to an ISP's customers. The records are useful to police tracking down child-porn providers, and music-industry groups use them to sue file sharers. Companies have also used the records to track down anonymous posters who write unflattering comments in stock-trading boards."



Which ISPs Are Spying on You?

 

[FilthyFletch]

rmax I guess your not using multi proxies to sign on to the net and 1028 bit encrypted servers to rerout those ips and then a nice simple rolling no static ip program? Thats some of what I sign on to and if they wanna take the time to hire good enough hackers to find me for some shit they wont find at my locations thats fine .Im not a dummy just signing right on via my isp s ip address. And you send them to a safe house or safe address.If it is a friend you ask the friend and know they are clean no issues. geez you act like you a internet noob or that someone is setting thier friend up lol.Also so you know Dr chronic and anyone else who accepts a credit card is assigned a business transaction id number thats is thiers and thiers alone.It wont say Dr chronic but it will say thier transactor number which is registered to them and being they use the same one the agents have no problem knowing who's id number goes to what company and then they just follow it back.Ordering seeds is simple but seems like your still new to internet security so be careful. I was just stating why you wouldnt use your own cc or address. I have never had to provide any real info for a prepaid quick card .I give them Joe Schmoe on the ap and get my temp card and go use it then burn it.I usually never even get the real card as I send it elsewhere and its no good by the time it shows up.

 

[BUD SHAMAN]

Don't use PayPal or similar services, they will out you to the authorities and freeze your account. Go money order.

 

[creativemind21]

Interesting topic......Hmmm it seems very risky using a creditcard....Hey fletcher if ur using fictitious names on a charge card how do u successfully recieve ur seeds withought mr.postman realizing Joe Smoe dosent live at the address listed for delivery?????

 

[nowstopwhining]

Interesting topic......Hmmm it seems very risky using a creditcard....Hey fletcher if ur using fictitious names on a charge card how do u successfully recieve ur seeds withought mr.postman realizing Joe Smoe dosent live at the address listed for delivery?????

thats the trouble with using fake names and it has been known to cause problems with deliveries.

 

[crazy-mental]

id say its safe. other wise they wouldnt do it. i dont think the fbi are going to be looking for someone buying 5 to 10 seeds. do you, i think they have better things to do.
i may be wrong, but has anyone ever been locked up for ordering seeds with there c.cards.

 

[creativemind21]

thats the trouble with using fake names and it has been known to cause problems with deliveries.

Yes thats what I thought.....

id say its safe. other wise they wouldnt do it. i dont think the fbi are going to be looking for someone buying 5 to 10 seeds. do you, i think they have better things to do.
i may be wrong, but has anyone ever been locked up for ordering seeds with there c.cards.

I think its a crap shoot....But I don't think that we can just assume that its 100% safe to order seeds using a creditcard.....Just like using ebay's paypal system which are suppose to be the one's dropping the dime on people purchasing growing equipment and nutes from ebay's site......We aren't safe anymore and are rights are slowly but surely being stripped away right in front of our eyes....