Need help with my lighting setup PLZ!!!

So I'm a first timer "indoor" an got my seeds to sprout under a 120 Phillips agro light in a jiffy pot , an I am now using it for heat purposes in conjunction with two four foot fluros t8's cool whites is that enough light for six plants? An also what else will I need as far as lights go when I get into my flowering stage? They are only six days old but are looking really good got all their first sets of fan leaf's I'll post pics when I get my camera back. But I could really use a detailed talk with a vet. I also live at a very high altitude will that be a factor in growth? Help would be greatly appriceated

Thanks, RollieNollie :-?
 
Thanks for the link young buck, an bongmarley I've been looking at setups an I'm just not sure what is gonna be right for me but I'll have some pics up after I get back from the depot lol an my camera is at my dads. I'm hopin you can stick with me through the grow thanks again guys :)
 

YOUNG BUCK

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Thanks for the link young buck, an bongmarley I've been looking at setups an I'm just not sure what is gonna be right for me but I'll have some pics up after I get back from the depot lol an my camera is at my dads. I'm hopin you can stick with me through the grow thanks again guys :)
Anything i might be able to help you with just send me a message and there is no question thats a dumb question to me as i am glad to help where i can.
 

jawbrodt

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Those T8's will work pretty well, as long as you don't plan to veg them that tall. They'll work until the plants get about 12", then they will start stretching.
 
Sweet thanks jawbrodt. I'm going to upload some pics an see if I can get some comments from you guys I dont have mylar yet but the walls are a pretty flat white they dont have added titianium oxide like they should but here let me know what you think plz? I'm also wondering about pests I have these tiny red bettles around will they hurt my babies?
 

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growxbud

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well they look good so far wuts ur light time on n off how close r the light how is the air flow pm if u have any question i would be glad to help if u need it
 

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Throw that away the NPK values are not to good and its time to transplant as there will be roots emerging from the jiffy cubes by now and due to the stretch when you transplant them bury the complete stem up to the first set of leafes.
 
Thanks young buck. What would you recommend as far as food goes? Also I have a question for everyone that views this page I'm using bagseed. I have two that look alot danker than the rest. I'm hoping I can use those two as clone mothers. An I'll post another checkup pic after they get done sleeping today :) but a sincere thank you to everyone helping me! I hope to get good enough at this that eventually I can help some noobs like myself in a couple years. An I was very 50 50 on going with organic or regular potting soil. An also buck I'm gonna plant the the two most stretched ones right now before bed time for the babies lol also the light schedule is 18/6 an the airflow is ok I have a little fan I run on low constantly so they have a little breeze. I'm thinkin I am gonna get a whip it thingy that will disperse co2 when I want. Opinions?
 

YOUNG BUCK

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Thanks young buck. What would you recommend as far as food goes? Also I have a question for everyone that views this page I'm using bagseed. I have two that look alot danker than the rest. I'm hoping I can use those two as clone mothers. An I'll post another checkup pic after they get done sleeping today :) but a sincere thank you to everyone helping me! I hope to get good enough at this that eventually I can help some noobs like myself in a couple years. An I was very 50 50 on going with organic or regular potting soil. An also buck I'm gonna plant the the two most stretched ones right now before bed time for the babies lol

If that soil you are using has added nutes then dont feed them anything exept pure water.
I use miracle grow and i also use nute free top soil with a neutral PH.
I start feeding my seedlings after 2-3 weeks starting at 1/4 dose and then up it week by week untill i am feeding them about 2/3 at the end of veg. Never go full strength with miracle grow as its high in NPK values.
Dont look as far as a mother plant yet and just take it slowly until you get a nice plant first (one step at a time).
Just message me if there is anything i can help you with.

(good luck).

Y.B.
 

stumps

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just don't over water in a nuted soil. let them get good and dry before watering. you can start light nutes at week 3 if the plants are growing strong. I used the mg liquid when I used mg soil didn't work very well. find something close to 5-5-5 in veg you can go 5-0-0 so like I said something close to those values.
 

YOUNG BUCK

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just don't over water in a nuted soil. let them get good and dry before watering. you can start light nutes at week 3 if the plants are growing strong. I used the mg liquid when I used mg soil didn't work very well. find something close to 5-5-5 in veg you can go 5-0-0 so like I said something close to those values.
Veging plants need some P+K but mostly N.
 

YOUNG BUCK

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9.3 Application: Fertilising.

To grow to a large size, marijuana requires a steady supply of nutrients. These can be added to the soil before planting or anytime during growth. Bulk fertilisers are added while the soil is mixed, as described in section 6. These include manures, composts, humus, and concentrated fertilisers, such as rose food. Once the plants are growing, never condition or mulch indoor soils with bulk fertilisers. they promote moulds and fungi and attract other pests to the garden. Concentrated fertilisers can damage the plants if they come in direct contact with the stem or roots.
While the plants are growing, nutrients are given in solution; they are dissolved in water, and the plants are watered as usual. Soluble fertilisers can be either organic or inorganic (chemical), and come in a wide range of concentrations and proportions of nutrients. Two organic fertilisers are liquid manure (about 1.5-1.0-1.5) and fish emulsion ((Some fish emulsion may contain whale by-products.)) (about 5-1-1). Chemical fertilisers commonly may have 20-20-20 or 5-10-5, or may contain only one nutrient, such as 16-0-0.
A 10-5-5 fertiliser is 20 percent soluble nutrients and 80 percent inert ingredients. a 30-10-10 has 50 percent available nutrients and 50 percent inert ingredients. There is approximately the same amount of N in one tsp. of 30-10-10 as in three tsps. of 10-5-5.
Actually, you can almost use any fertiliser, but the nitrogen content should be proportionately high, and there should be some P and L also present. For example, a 20-20-20 would work fine, as would a 12-6-6 or a 3-4-3, but not a 2-10-10 or a 5-10-0.
How much fertiliser to use and how often to fertilise depend primarily on the fertility of the soil and the size of the container relative to the size of the plant. Small plants in large pots usually do not need to be fertilised. Even in small pots, most plants do not need to be fertilised for at least the first month.
As the plants grow, they take nutrients from the soil, and these must be replaced to maintain vigorous growth. During the vegetative stage, even plants in large pots generally require some fertilising, particularly with N.
The rate of growth of indoor plants is usually limited by the amount of light and space, once adequate nutrients are supplied. At this point, an increase in nutrients will not increase growth. Your goal is to supply the plants with their nutritional needs without overfertilising and thus toxifying the soil.
Most fertilisers are designed for home use and have instructions for fertilising houseplants. Marijuana is not a houseplant, and it requires more nutrients than houseplants. The extra nutrients that it needs may be supplied by the use of large pots and a fertile soil mixture. In many cases, you will need to fertilise only in the dosages recommended on fertiliser packages for houseplants. For instance, Rapid-Gro (23-19-17) is popular among marijuana growers; use one tablespoon per gallon of water every two weeks.
A typical program for fertilising might be to fertilise during the fifth week of growth and every two weeks thereafter until flowering. Then discontinue fertilising (or give at one-half concentration) unless the plants show a definite need for nutrients. It is better to fertilise with a more diluted solution more often than to give concentrated doses at longer intervals. (For instance, if instructions call for one tablespoon of fertiliser per gallon once a month, use one-quarter tablespoon per gallon once a week.)
Make sure that a fertiliser is completely dissolved in the water before you apply it. Put the recommended amount of fertiliser in a clear glass bottle and mix with about one cup of water. Shake vigorously and then allow it to settle. If any particles of fertiliser are not dissolved, shake again before adding the rest of the water. If you have difficulty getting all the fertiliser to dissolve, first add hot top water. If the fertiliser still does not completely dissolve, you should use another fertiliser.
Never fertilise a dry soil or dry Soilless medium. If the medium is dry, first water with about one-half quart of plain water per pot. Let the pots sit for about 15 minutes so that the water is evenly dispersed in the pot. Then fertilise as usual.
It is difficult to give instruction for fertilising that will cover all garden situations. You want to supply the plant with its nutritive needs, but overfertilising con toxify the soil. Fertilising according to instructions for houseplants (both in frequency and concentration) should not toxify the soil. However, the plants may sometimes require more frequent or more concentrated fertilising. A good way to judge the plant's needs is not to fertilise one plant, double the fertiliser of another plant, and give the rest of the plants their normal dose. If the unfertilised plant grows more slowly, or shows symptoms of deficiencies, then probably all the plant are depending on soluble fertilisers and must be fertilised regularly. If the plants receiving the double dose grows faster than the other plants, increase the other plants' supply also. On the other hand, if there is little difference among the plants, then the soil is providing the plants with enough nutrients, and they either should not be fertilised or should be fertilised with a less-concentrated solution.
Because they are grown in a relatively small area, it is easy to overfertilise indoor plants. When plants are vigorous, look healthy, and are growing steadily, don't be anxious to fertilise, particularly if you have already fertilised several times with soluble fertilisers. Slow growth or symptoms of deficiencies clearly indicate the need for fertilising.
 

stumps

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during veg the nuted soil will carry what ever pk you need. atm my nutes run like 7-3-2 or 2-3.
 
There was not much development today so no pic but I'm sure they will look completely different tomorrow so thanks for the help everyone. I got a couple more questions
Has anyone expermented with music an plant growth? I'm thinkin a jazz an reggae mix might do pretty good? An what mil of mylar do you guys use??

Thanks

Nollie :)
 

YOUNG BUCK

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There was not much development today so no pic but I'm sure they will look completely different tomorrow so thanks for the help everyone. I got a couple more questions
Has anyone expermented with music an plant growth? I'm thinkin a jazz an reggae mix might do pretty good? An what mil of mylar do you guys use??

Thanks

Nollie :)

Music wont help your plants grow faster and as for the mylar. If its in a grow room then white matt paint on the walls is ideal but if you are going for mylar just go for a thin diamond mylar.
 
Lol I know it wont work to help em grow faster but like if you hang an jam with em wont they be happier? Alot of research I've done says they need to be happy, an they are living things lol, any specific brands as far as mylar you would recommend an what kinda store would sell it? I've looked at home depot an a garden specialty store cant find it my last place I'm going to check is a movie equipment rental place. Kinda scared to ship it to my apt. Have you ever tried moive lighting gel to change spectrums of light? My dad is oldschool from cali an said he used an orange gel its like colored clear mylar it comes in rolls an stuff but the last thing I remember about my dad growing is him throwing a huge fit cuz his areoponics setup didnt work but thats cuz he didnt study it up but all our old outdoor was fantastic "which is what he tried gel with" I was just too little to remember the tricks plus even though my parents were growin they tried real hard to keep me away an look where I'm at now lol. An YB have you had any experience with a ufo lighting device? I used to be a apprentice set lighting tech. for movies an I have always been fasnatied with lights an I would love to try l.e.d's on my next time around but they are so freakin expensive even more than a hps setup.
 

YOUNG BUCK

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Lol I know it wont work to help em grow faster but like if you hang an jam with em wont they be happier? Alot of research I've done says they need to be happy, an they are living things lol, any specific brands as far as mylar you would recommend an what kinda store would sell it? I've looked at home depot an a garden specialty store cant find it my last place I'm going to check is a movie equipment rental place. Kinda scared to ship it to my apt. Have you ever tried moive lighting gel to change spectrums of light? My dad is oldschool from cali an said he used an orange gel its like colored clear mylar it comes in rolls an stuff but the last thing I remember about my dad growing is him throwing a huge fit cuz his areoponics setup didnt work but thats cuz he didnt study it up but all our old outdoor was fantastic "which is what he tried gel with" I was just too little to remember the tricks plus even though my parents were growin they tried real hard to keep me away an look where I'm at now lol. An YB have you had any experience with a ufo lighting device? I used to be a apprentice set lighting tech. for movies an I have always been fasnatied with lights an I would love to try l.e.d's on my next time around but they are so freakin expensive even more than a hps setup.
I just use 1 bulb for the whole grow from seed to harvest (dual spectrum 400w hps).
And you will find mylar on E-BAY. I dont use it as my walls are painted with matt white paint.
I dont know about LED lights exept that the cost a small fortune.
 
Lol ya the lighting for leds is way too pricey for me haha so they are on day 9 an lookin really good that one that streched way bad died but he was the retard plant lol the others all look healthy i'll have an update pic after six thirty when I can turn their lights back on.
 
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