gottapercha
Member
There about 3 weeks old, wat do u think?
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how are these plants doing
- Thread starter gottapercha
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DankBudzzz
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They seem too be growing slow for three weeks...I would recommend vegging indoors for a few weeks before placing outdoors in the future to prevent shock etc...I'm not an exprt so I don't know the exact problem
gottapercha
Member
cant do that i live with my parents
gottapercha
Member
its soil from around, a little potting soil
azoo
Active Member
umm cement lol
gottapercha
Member
i just got these polymer crystals do u think that would keep the soil better irrigated for them to grow?
there all doing just great! don't worry!!! There not small at all, trust me. These are outdoor plants people not indoors, they don't get the 24/0 or 20/4, 18/6, etc light schedule! if these plants, thats the only reason indoor plants would be 2x more produced at this age, 2x more light. Nice Sativas, I believe. D:
gottapercha
Member
i lost one cus the soil is crap, but i got the others in foxfarm, little native soil ,crystals, a little sand + other potting soil .
roundplanet
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Hey, hey now...
Nitegazer
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Cool. Post some new pics once the seedlings have recovered. I would love to see a 'before and after'.
RockstarEnergy
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light cycle determines flowering, the amount of lumens determines how much the plant thrives. sun light is 10,000 lumens on a cloudy day and like 10 times that when its clear plus its FULL SPECTRUM so even tho its not out 18 hours, it still equals that.
but this is like talking to a brick wall and going nowhere. believe what you want, i dont care anymore.
gottapercha
Member
I still have the 2 I started with, which are a little over a month old.
These 2 are new ones, kinda look diffrent too, idk. - 1week from seed.
There all bagseed.
These 2 are new ones, kinda look diffrent too, idk. - 1week from seed.
There all bagseed.
Just because a plant is receiving 10,000 or 100,000 or 1,000,000 lumens doesn’t mean a plant can use all of them. The plant can only use what it can absorb and breakdown.
To break down the light the plant needs Co2. The average atmospheric Co2 ppm is in the high 300’s. Wikipedia says the average amount of Co2 globally is 391 ppm by volume. The levels can be even higher (up to 600 ppm) in highly populated and polluted cities. It is also higher in the average household as it’s stuck inside with nowhere to go and people, appliances, and sometimes pets producing more and more of it.
Now the a plant outdoors might be receiving WAY more lumens but it most likely doesn’t get as much Co2 as a plant in a home garden. Especially if the plant is in a more remote location and the home garden is in a city closet. Therefore even if its getting more lumens it doesn’t mean it can break the light down as well or as much as the plant indoor. The indoor lighting might not be as intense but it is for longer periods of time and presumably with more Co2.
I’m not saying more lumens aren’t a good thing. They are. But they need help to break them down and outdoors you can’t just force Co2 to the plant. I’m also not saying growing under lights is more effective. All I’m saying is that indoors you have a much more controlled environment. You can do things to help the plant utilize the light it’s receiving much better. While a closet with a 450 – 500 ppm of Co2 doesn’t get as strong of the light if its getting a longer period and has more ability to break that light down the plant indoors will grow much more quickly.
Outdoors you don’t have as much Co2 or hours of light but the hours you do receive are more intense and full spectrum light. There are pros and cons to both indoor and outdoor.
That being said, I am not a master gardener. I do however do my research. This is a forum for the spreading of knowledge and ideas. To help the new and the old to the art of growing cannabis. To share what we’ve learned, good and bad, for the benefit of other growers and connoisseurs.
If you know so much master gardener Rockstar and want to bash people for speaking their own very valid views of growing then maybe this isn’t the site for you. Go back and tend to your own garden and don’t shove your arrogant and condescending views down our throats. Just my two cents.
Other than that c0rd, I’m with you. Gottapercha things look great. They’re doing fine and I’m sure will make you very happy in the end. Keep up the good work.
To break down the light the plant needs Co2. The average atmospheric Co2 ppm is in the high 300’s. Wikipedia says the average amount of Co2 globally is 391 ppm by volume. The levels can be even higher (up to 600 ppm) in highly populated and polluted cities. It is also higher in the average household as it’s stuck inside with nowhere to go and people, appliances, and sometimes pets producing more and more of it.
Now the a plant outdoors might be receiving WAY more lumens but it most likely doesn’t get as much Co2 as a plant in a home garden. Especially if the plant is in a more remote location and the home garden is in a city closet. Therefore even if its getting more lumens it doesn’t mean it can break the light down as well or as much as the plant indoor. The indoor lighting might not be as intense but it is for longer periods of time and presumably with more Co2.
I’m not saying more lumens aren’t a good thing. They are. But they need help to break them down and outdoors you can’t just force Co2 to the plant. I’m also not saying growing under lights is more effective. All I’m saying is that indoors you have a much more controlled environment. You can do things to help the plant utilize the light it’s receiving much better. While a closet with a 450 – 500 ppm of Co2 doesn’t get as strong of the light if its getting a longer period and has more ability to break that light down the plant indoors will grow much more quickly.
Outdoors you don’t have as much Co2 or hours of light but the hours you do receive are more intense and full spectrum light. There are pros and cons to both indoor and outdoor.
That being said, I am not a master gardener. I do however do my research. This is a forum for the spreading of knowledge and ideas. To help the new and the old to the art of growing cannabis. To share what we’ve learned, good and bad, for the benefit of other growers and connoisseurs.
If you know so much master gardener Rockstar and want to bash people for speaking their own very valid views of growing then maybe this isn’t the site for you. Go back and tend to your own garden and don’t shove your arrogant and condescending views down our throats. Just my two cents.
Other than that c0rd, I’m with you. Gottapercha things look great. They’re doing fine and I’m sure will make you very happy in the end. Keep up the good work.
RockstarEnergy
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a. im not a master gardener and never claim to be
b. i said the difference was environmental control and c0rd continued to tell me it was the longer light cycle.
c. i always try and help ppl without being a dick but i tried to help him in his own thread and he told me to fuck off.
my arguement was never that the sun is greater than growing indoors, it was that just because it is not out as long does not make it inferior to 18/6 or more light cycle of an artificial set up. having control over temps, humidity, and air quality along with lights is what allows plants to grow at their full potential. so while you think you are agreeing with c0rd, you really just explained most of what i was saying.
my only problem is that he posts in threads without being sure of the information he is putting out there.
b. i said the difference was environmental control and c0rd continued to tell me it was the longer light cycle.
c. i always try and help ppl without being a dick but i tried to help him in his own thread and he told me to fuck off.
my arguement was never that the sun is greater than growing indoors, it was that just because it is not out as long does not make it inferior to 18/6 or more light cycle of an artificial set up. having control over temps, humidity, and air quality along with lights is what allows plants to grow at their full potential. so while you think you are agreeing with c0rd, you really just explained most of what i was saying.
my only problem is that he posts in threads without being sure of the information he is putting out there.
veggiegardener
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Just my two cents.
Those plants look large and healthy to me, for their age.
Congratulations on saving two plants when you transplanted. Most folks aren't gentle enough.
A bit of advice regarding sites like this.
Never take the opinion of one unknown poster as gospel. Even if he has 10,000 posts. Occasionally that's 10,000 bits of bad advice.
The best thing you can do is read a grow book.
I have quite a few.
The best is by Jorge Cervantes.
You won't be sorry.
Those plants look large and healthy to me, for their age.
Congratulations on saving two plants when you transplanted. Most folks aren't gentle enough.
A bit of advice regarding sites like this.
Never take the opinion of one unknown poster as gospel. Even if he has 10,000 posts. Occasionally that's 10,000 bits of bad advice.
The best thing you can do is read a grow book.
I have quite a few.
The best is by Jorge Cervantes.
You won't be sorry.